Wanted - 964 RS

[carreraboy]

ORIGINAL: SimonExtreme

ORIGINAL: carreraboy

............................................................and I'm always right just look at differences between LHD/RHD GT3 practically none, these guys take over the river and enjoy them............

Sorry Des, but the reason for the parity is simple. The cars are still depreciating and the rate of depreciation is about the same the world over. It is only when the cars start to appreciate that you will see a premium for RHD.

I cannot think of a case of an appreciating car that had more LHD built than RHD, where there isn't a premium for RHD. And this will remain. Damen's search for a car just proves the point. If he wanted a LHD car, he would have quite a choice and therefore might have room to negotiate on the price. In RHD, he cannot find the car he wants and will have to pay whatever the owner wants, or go without.

Totally disagree with all the above Simon......reason less RHD is they did not want the 64RS in the UK it cost £20K more than a C2 with full kit......Press here hated it Porsche were meant to sell 150 UK units only managed with a big struggle to sell 47 others went to Far East SA etc and Touring also ONLY IN RHD Germans did not want the touring.........I would think a good buy soon would be a RHD MK1 GT3 at around £40K which is what you will pay for a good RHD 64RS uncanny, I predicted these price moves on Titanic 5 years ago.watch this space.....

 

[carreraboy]

DAMEN THERE IS ONE ROAD SIGN TO ALWAYS OBEY!​

 

[SimonExtreme]

ORIGINAL: carreraboy

ORIGINAL: SimonExtreme

ORIGINAL: carreraboy

............................................................and I'm always right just look at differences between LHD/RHD GT3 practically none, these guys take over the river and enjoy them............

Sorry Des, but the reason for the parity is simple. The cars are still depreciating and the rate of depreciation is about the same the world over. It is only when the cars start to appreciate that you will see a premium for RHD.

I cannot think of a case of an appreciating car that had more LHD built than RHD, where there isn't a premium for RHD. And this will remain. Damen's search for a car just proves the point. If he wanted a LHD car, he would have quite a choice and therefore might have room to negotiate on the price. In RHD, he cannot find the car he wants and will have to pay whatever the owner wants, or go without.

Totally disagree with all the above Simon......reason less RHD is they did not want the 64RS in the UK it cost £20K more than a C2 with full kit......Press here hated it Porsche were meant to sell 150 UK units only managed with a big struggle to sell 47 others went to Far East SA etc and Touring also ONLY IN RHD Germans did not want the touring.........I would think a good buy soon would be a RHD MK1 GT3 at around £40K which is what you will pay for a good RHD 64RS uncanny, I predicted these price moves on Titanic 5 years ago.watch this space.....

Des

Please keep up by reading the posts properly[] I don't understand why you are rambling on about how many RHD 64RS's were built. We were talking about why there is or isn't a premium TODAY!!!

 

[boydyrs]

Damon
May and have been thinking of selling my RS for some time due to lack of use.
'93 RHD 964 RS, Midnight Blue, recent engine rebuild, never damaged but some stonechips on front PU and Lid, used as intended and always cared for by 9m.
FSH and loads of receipts to verify, drives superb.
Has motec mods and loads of power, no cage, standard interior and mag wheels.
Give me a call if you wish to discuss
regards
Raymond
(Boydy)
07836707805

 

[carreraboy]

BECAUSE EVEN BACK IN 92 THEY HAD LIMITED APPEAL HERE OF THE 2051 BUILT ABOUT 100 RHD 47 UK IT DID NOT FIT THE MARKET MUCH BIGGER GLOBAL REAL RS MARKET!!!!!!

 

[carreraboy]

ORIGINAL: boydyrs

Damon
May and have been thinking of selling my RS for some time due to lack of use.
'93 RHD 964 RS, Midnight Blue, recent engine rebuild, never damaged but some stonechips on front PU and Lid, used as intended and always cared for by 9m.
FSH and loads of receipts to verify, drives superb.
Has motec mods and loads of power, no cage, standard interior and mag wheels.
Give me a call if you wish to discuss
regards
Raymond
(Boydy)
07836707805

Nice colour great spec MOTEC GO FOR IT!!! Before he gets a call from Paul Mc! Guarantee if you drive it as described you will buy it beware.......[]

 

[Andy Tims]

ORIGINAL: boydyrs

Damon
May and have been thinking of selling my RS for some time due to lack of use.
'93 RHD 964 RS, Midnight Blue, recent engine rebuild, never damaged but some stonechips on front PU and Lid, used as intended and always cared for by 9m.
FSH and loads of receipts to verify, drives superb.
Has motec mods and loads of power, no cage, standard interior and mag wheels.
Give me a call if you wish to discuss
regards
Raymond
(Boydy)
07836707805

I can vouch that this is a very rapid car. Would be very tempted myself if I was looking for a 64RS.

 

[SimonExtreme]

ORIGINAL: carreraboy

BECAUSE EVEN BACK IN 92 THEY HAD LIMITED APPEAL HERE OF THE 2051 BUILT ABOUT 100 RHD 47 UK IT DID NOT FIT THE MARKET MUCH BIGGER GLOBAL REAL RS MARKET!!!!!!

But, Des, why does it take everybody who wants a RHD car such a long time to find one? Why are we prepared to pay for the right car? Why is it easy to find LHD cars? It's supply and demand. RHD cars will always be a rarity and as such, worth more than LHD. And that won't change. The GT3 price convergence was always there and will be until depreciation stops having an effect. It will stop on RHD cars before LHD and that is how the premium will start. It's very simple and totally inescapable economics.

 

[carreraboy]

ORIGINAL: Andy Tims

ORIGINAL: boydyrs

Damon
May and have been thinking of selling my RS for some time due to lack of use.
'93 RHD 964 RS, Midnight Blue, recent engine rebuild, never damaged but some stonechips on front PU and Lid, used as intended and always cared for by 9m.
FSH and loads of receipts to verify, drives superb.
Has motec mods and loads of power, no cage, standard interior and mag wheels.
Give me a call if you wish to discuss
regards
Raymond
(Boydy)
07836707805

I can vouch that this is a very rapid car. Would be very tempted myself if I was looking for a 64RS.

Andy they are all and very much feel rapide ask Clubsport who can't get rid of his wood....Motec must awesome buy it someone now!!!!!!

 

[carreraboy]

ORIGINAL: SimonExtreme

ORIGINAL: carreraboy

BECAUSE EVEN BACK IN 92 THEY HAD LIMITED APPEAL HERE OF THE 2051 BUILT ABOUT 100 RHD 47 UK IT DID NOT FIT THE MARKET MUCH BIGGER GLOBAL REAL RS MARKET!!!!!!

But, Des, why does it take everybody who wants a RHD car such a long time to find one? Why are we prepared to pay for the right car? Why is it easy to find LHD cars? It's supply and demand. RHD cars will always be a rarity and as such, worth more than LHD. And that won't change. The GT3 price convergence was always there and will be until depreciation stops having an effect. It will stop on RHD cars before LHD and that is how the premium will start. It's very simple and totally inescapable economics.

Maths was never my best subject but probably the reason not many RHD about is as per above they did'nt make many!!!!!! Although always one or two knocking about know of three or four at the moment and out of 47 that's about 10% of UK supply so to equate to LHD production that would be about 200 LHD 964RS for sale at the moment!!!!

Don't worry Simon we know your heart is in the right place and you have a stonking car mate.........picture below of recently converted Hong Kong car to LHD......in Red too!

 

[Damen]

All

Lots of interesting comments, I note what you say regarding rhd v lhd (I think both camps and sets of respective arguments have their virtues).

I have been to look at the Rubystone Red car, I also think it's over priced, its had new wings and a poor repaint (obvious over spray around the door edges). I have also been speaking to Paul at GT Classics and can only concur with the comments made, I plan to meet up with him again very soon.

Certainly buying on condition is an absolute priority but I'm still not sure about red or white. Hopefully, I'll be able to find the right car sooner rather than later.

Thanks again.

Damen

 

[lee fulford]

Simon.......Just because something is rare it doesn't make it worth a fortune....rmember the Allegro VDP or the Panther Rio?[]

It's desirability that creates the hype and we all know that LHD provides the true undiluted RS experience.

 

[TISPKJ]

Wake up and smell the coffee boys !
Let's be honest here, the only reason you would buy a LHD car is because you either cant afford or cant find a RHD car !

 

[Andy Tims]

ORIGINAL: tispkj

Wake up and smell the coffee boys !
Let's be honest here, the only reason you would buy a LHD car is because you either cant afford or cant find a RHD car !

Exactly - but depending on useage LHD is really not a big problem.

 

[TISPKJ]

Agreed

 

[lee fulford]

ORIGINAL: tispkj

Wake up and smell the coffee boys !
Let's be honest here, the only reason you would buy a LHD car is because you either cant afford or cant find a RHD car !

Gordon Bennett.......Who rattled your cage......Just cos you've finally spent some money on a decent car you're becoming all lairy.

As you're aware when I bought my car there were plenty of RHD cars around and without being flash Harry money was not an issue. I chose LHD for all the reasons that have been aired many times before on this forum........I know you're really not that ignorant[]

 

[SimonExtreme]

ORIGINAL: lee fulford

ORIGINAL: tispkj

Wake up and smell the coffee boys !
Let's be honest here, the only reason you would buy a LHD car is because you either cant afford or cant find a RHD car !

Gordon Bennett.......Who rattled your cage......Just cos you've finally spent some money on a decent car you're becoming all lairy.

As you're aware when I bought my car there were plenty of RHD cars around and without being flash Harry money was not an issue. I chose LHD for all the reasons that have been aired many times before on this forum........I know you're really not that ignorant[]

Lee

Really serious for one minute, I can only see 2 reasons for not buying RHD. First is money[] but the second is that you don't need RHD for the use you are puting it to. I cannot drive a LHD car as it is totally impractical. There are, on average, 4 times a day that I need to use some sort of access device (swipe card or number pad) and I wouldn't want to get out of the car every time. And having owned LHD cars, I don't care what people say, its not as nice to drive as a RHD (generalisation about all LHD cars).

Now, when it comes to the 964RS, the 2 things that are talked about are the driving position and the power steering. WRT the driving position, I accept that your feet are more offset in a RHD car than a LHD car but it really isn't any type of issue at all. In fact, that bit is easy to get used to. What isn't is the problems that both RHD and LHD have, namely the pedal positions in relation to each other and the totally wrong distance between steering wheel and pedals. On both cars the driving position is fundememtally flawed.

WRT the power steering, IMO it is just a macho tyhing. The feel through the '64 RS power steering is excellent. You always know wherer the wheels are and it gives you as much feedback as you need. In fact, I would say that the power steering is probably about as good as I have felt. If it wqasn't, I feel that the car would have been a bit of a nightmare at "Judgement Day", which was all about being able to judge the grip levels at the front of the car against how much power to apply at the rear. And as for the advantages on the "Supermarket Carpark" track, I think power steering really won the day[]

I also do not have a problem with the idea of power steering on a race/track car. Many cars are built like that today.

So, IMO, the whole "purity" of LHD is blown out of all proportion. If I were choosing a car soley for trackdays and competition, I would probably go for a LHD and probably a clubsport at that. However, I am happy competing against anybody in my RHD car knowing that if its got the same power as the other car, I am in no way at a disadvantage because of the RHD.

 

[carreraboy]

ORIGINAL: SimonExtreme

ORIGINAL: lee fulford

ORIGINAL: tispkj

Wake up and smell the coffee boys ! Same shell fixings etc thus homologated .....RS Lived 1972 and died with EVO 993 GT2 1998...all LHD
Let's be honest here, the only reason you would buy a LHD car is because you either cant afford or cant find a RHD car !

Gordon Bennett.......Who rattled your cage......Just cos you've finally spent some money on a decent car you're becoming all lairy.

As you're aware when I bought my car there were plenty of RHD cars around and without being flash Harry money was not an issue. I chose LHD for all the reasons that have been aired many times before on this forum........I know you're really not that ignorant[]

Lee

Really serious for one minute, I can only see 2 reasons for not buying RHD. First is money[] but the second is that you don't need RHD for the use you are puting it to. I cannot drive a LHD car as it is totally impractical. There are, on average, 4 times a day that I need to use some sort of access device (swipe card or number pad) and I wouldn't want to get out of the car every time. And having owned LHD cars, I don't care what people say, its not as nice to drive as a RHD (generalisation about all LHD cars).

Now, when it comes to the 964RS, the 2 things that are talked about are the driving position and the power steering. WRT the driving position, I accept that your feet are more offset in a RHD car than a LHD car but it really isn't any type of issue at all. In fact, that bit is easy to get used to. What isn't is the problems that both RHD and LHD have, namely the pedal positions in relation to each other and the totally wrong distance between steering wheel and pedals. On both cars the driving position is fundememtally flawed.

WRT the power steering, IMO it is just a macho tyhing. The feel through the '64 RS power steering is excellent. You always know wherer the wheels are and it gives you as much feedback as you need. In fact, I would say that the power steering is probably about as good as I have felt. If it wqasn't, I feel that the car would have been a bit of a nightmare at "Judgement Day", which was all about being able to judge the grip levels at the front of the car against how much power to apply at the rear. And as for the advantages on the "Supermarket Carpark" track, I think power steering really won the day[]

I also do not have a problem with the idea of power steering on a race/track car. Many cars are built like that today.

So, IMO, the whole "purity" of LHD is blown out of all proportion. If I were choosing a car soley for trackdays and competition, I would probably go for a LHD and probably a clubsport at that. However, I am happy competing against anybody in my RHD car knowing that if its got the same power as the other car, I am in no way at a disadvantage because of the RHD.

I think this is wot Porsche meant reallly

 

[TISPKJ]

[/quote]
As you're aware when I bought my car there were plenty of RHD cars around and without being flash Harry money was not an issue. I chose LHD for all the reasons that have been aired many times before on this forum........I know you're really not that ignorant[]
[/quote]

Yeah well there is always an excepetion to the rule ..............

However most people buy on a budget ! []

 

[Laurence Gibbs]

I can understand those in a position as Simon who uses his car everyday and has to get past coded locks etc. But I cant for the life of me understand why anyone else would want to pay a substantial premium for what is basically the same package, particuarly if it's a third car/ weekend toy. The only conclusion i can come up with is that some don't have the skill to handle driving a car with the wheel on the other side?