Mike Moore
Member
OVER 3000 HITS ON THIS THREAD NOW
and still nothing that resembles an official statement from the PCGB, incredible!
Where is the Early 911 Register Secretary?
- Thread starter Nick Moss
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OVER 3000 HITS ON THIS THREAD NOW
and still nothing that resembles an official statement from the PCGB, incredible!
38F3E1
PCGB Member
Is it the the case that once you are appointed Register Secretary it's job for life unless you resign, leave PCGB or sell your car?
Other positions within PCGB seem to have term limits or you have to be periodically re-elected every few years. Can't believe this doesn't apply to Register Secretaries..
IMO Register Secretaries should face re-election every so often (say 3 years) and in addition the full board should have the power to remove them.
Ian.
Other positions within PCGB seem to have term limits or you have to be periodically re-elected every few years. Can't believe this doesn't apply to Register Secretaries..
IMO Register Secretaries should face re-election every so often (say 3 years) and in addition the full board should have the power to remove them.
Ian.
ORIGINAL: garyw
OK, someone down South...[] but my points still valid [8|]
garyw
Absolutely. My point being both could apply as examples...[&o]
pauljmcnulty
New member
You're making two very large and very wrong assumptions here....
Firstly, in my experience less than 10% of my Register are in any way interested in getting involved. If you look at the votes for the last contested Board positions the point is proved....[
]The other point is that the volunteers are often the only people who've offered to do the job. I'm sure that many of us would willingly hand over if a better candidate came along! [8|]
Bertroex
New member
I'm sorry but this threat is similar to shouting in the desert. The fact of the matter is that some of the members want to made known to the board that they require some clarification, would like to see constructive action taken and would expect some accountability of the people involved during this period.
If that is you, STOP USING THE FORUM AND WRITE BY REGISTERED MAIL.
This club is not forum based. If there is an AGM, USE THAT CHANCE.
It might be too late to be included in the agenda, but you can only play the game if you use "their" rules. If, for some strategic reason, those rules are set in such a way that you naturally feel inclined to shy away from it, then you are either forced to adapt or alternatively forced to go somewhere else.
Now, here is a thought for that "pondering time " over your single malt. The majority of people who posted in this threat are genuine enthousiasts for the Porsche Marque. Typically, we rather spend £ 30.000 for a slide throttle 2.8 twin plug engine based around 2.4 litres 7r cases than to go into an OPC and pay that amount for a porsche approved silver metallic boxter. Some of us do jump in our classic porsches and drive to, I don't know, a parisian suburb to check out this rumour of a set of carrera 6 cams. Some of us do use connections in the military development circles to check whether those 996 GT3 titanium conrods are really to be recycled in such a way so we can use them in a 2 litre twin-plug historic 6 cylinder engines.
If PCGB would be called "the Southern chapter of UK dealer supplied RHD factory delivered porsche vehicles with a taste for gentle drives from one Castle to another Michelin Restaurant whilst receiving a free jetwash at the hosting porsche centre(for cars still under factory warranty)", would you feel inclined to be part of it?
With the CoC, PCGB of old is gone. Live with it.
If you don't like it, join the ranks, be a good boy for many years and with a bit of luck, assemble enough like minded individuals to grow to Board level and adopt some changes. Blair did it, so can you.
Forum posts mean nothing, even 3000 hits. Action by a number of PCGB members using the appropriate means is the only way forward.
wishing you good luck and all the best,
Bert
If that is you, STOP USING THE FORUM AND WRITE BY REGISTERED MAIL.
This club is not forum based. If there is an AGM, USE THAT CHANCE.
It might be too late to be included in the agenda, but you can only play the game if you use "their" rules. If, for some strategic reason, those rules are set in such a way that you naturally feel inclined to shy away from it, then you are either forced to adapt or alternatively forced to go somewhere else.
Now, here is a thought for that "pondering time " over your single malt. The majority of people who posted in this threat are genuine enthousiasts for the Porsche Marque. Typically, we rather spend £ 30.000 for a slide throttle 2.8 twin plug engine based around 2.4 litres 7r cases than to go into an OPC and pay that amount for a porsche approved silver metallic boxter. Some of us do jump in our classic porsches and drive to, I don't know, a parisian suburb to check out this rumour of a set of carrera 6 cams. Some of us do use connections in the military development circles to check whether those 996 GT3 titanium conrods are really to be recycled in such a way so we can use them in a 2 litre twin-plug historic 6 cylinder engines.
If PCGB would be called "the Southern chapter of UK dealer supplied RHD factory delivered porsche vehicles with a taste for gentle drives from one Castle to another Michelin Restaurant whilst receiving a free jetwash at the hosting porsche centre(for cars still under factory warranty)", would you feel inclined to be part of it?
With the CoC, PCGB of old is gone. Live with it.
If you don't like it, join the ranks, be a good boy for many years and with a bit of luck, assemble enough like minded individuals to grow to Board level and adopt some changes. Blair did it, so can you.
Forum posts mean nothing, even 3000 hits. Action by a number of PCGB members using the appropriate means is the only way forward.
wishing you good luck and all the best,
Bert
38F3E1
PCGB Member
Not sure I see any assumtions. More a request for knowledge. I think you are saying you have two points to make.
Firstly, in my experience less than 10% of my Register are in any way interested in getting involved. If you look at the votes for the last contested Board positions the point is proved....[
So what you are saying is that the members are not the right people to decide if a Register Secretary stays or is replaced with another candidate as frankly 90% of them don't give a toss. Fair point.
Again see your point as this would seem to be the normal situation.
But what if some people think the Register Secretary is not and would like to have a go? Seems there is no mechanism to put yourself up for election against the current holder of the role.
The assumption seems to be the club should be so grateful that someone has offered to do the role that it's a role for life.
I'll ask the questions in a more concise way
1/ Once given the position as Register Secretary is it yours for life?
2/ Is there any mechanism to challenge the current holder of the position?
Ian.
Who would want to do any of the club officials' jobs for life [&:][&:][&:]...........
As I see it if the RS or RO is happy and his/her membership is happy why rock the boat[8|][8|].
The Directors, however, have a four year tenure (and elected every two years) and need a hiatus of at least one year at the end of the four years.
If an RS or RS does not do the job properly, I am sure the Board of Directors will take any necessary action to ask this person to step down and seek a replacement. There was such a case earlier this year with Region 19.
Harriet
pauljmcnulty
New member
1 - There's no fixed tenure, if that's what you mean. Yes.
2 - Of course. If the RS, or an RO, isn't doing what you want, speak to them. Failing that speak to the relevant Director.
More importantly, if anyone feels they have the skills to do the job better, then the first step would be to get involved, perhaps an an assistant? I'm sure that most of the people in volunteer roles would be happy to have someone there to both help and to take over when the time is right?
Mike Moore
Member
Stupidly, I had assumed that the silence on this thread from Register Director Robin Walker over the replacement of Philip Taysom as Register Secretary, was because
he would be making a full statement to answer all the questions from concerned members in this months Porsche Post.
Of course you guessed, not a word!
He does of course mention he is standing down from his position, I wonder if there's a connection?
The PCGB Chairman has been asked to look into the situation, I see he's keeping his head down as well........
he would be making a full statement to answer all the questions from concerned members in this months Porsche Post.
Of course you guessed, not a word!
He does of course mention he is standing down from his position, I wonder if there's a connection?
The PCGB Chairman has been asked to look into the situation, I see he's keeping his head down as well........
Robin is standing down as he will have reached his max 4 years on the Board.
Helen Goff
No.1 Poster
i stupidly thought that the silence ment a suitable replacement R/O had been found [:-]
Hello to all of you patient Early 911 Register members. I can now say that as of today 25th October 2007 the position of Register Secretary for the Early 911 Register is now vacant. If any of you are interested in filling the post I would like you to send me by e-mail some brief details about yourself along with your proposed programme of things you plan to arrange or organise for the Early 911 Register members and their cars. Be advised that I have temporarily taken over the Registers e-mail address of 911@porscheclubgb.com, or you could send it to register@porscheclubgb.com. Following receipt of your proposals I will telephone you to discuss your application further. Please note that I will not be discussing the role with the individual applicants on the Forum, so the members on the Forum can continue with their interesting but often poorly informed posts about the matter. I will however announce any developments here when I can do so. Lets hope we can find someone who can really enhance the Register and make it really worthwhile to belong.
Mike Moore
Member
At Last!
Helen Goff
No.1 Poster
e-mail sent.
jason
New member
So are we going to find out what the hell happened to the old register secretary, the timings of the departure and why all the members on here seem to have been systematically ignored during debacle no.8759 for this club in the last 18 months?
TBH I'm getting really fed up with this club, its just one farce after another of boring politics and diabolical communication with the membership. I feel for the volunteers who put so much work into it but unfortunately some of them also seem to be the cause of all the problems.
I remember when this was a car club for car enthusiasts with the effort being put into membership involvement and enjoyment....I think.
Joined DDK as was interested in the old cars....seems to be the place to be, followed by 911uk for newer 911's, pistonheads for the turbo's and GT's and boxa.net for boxsters.
God forbid the 964RS register and forum loses all its support here otherwise I'd not even login to PCGB or bother with the club at all.
HOPE FOR GOD'S SAKE YOU PICK THE RIGHT EARLY 911 REGISTER SECRETARY AND NOT SOME 2 BIT YES PERSON ASPIRING TO BE ON THE BOARD.
<poorly informed rant over>
TBH I'm getting really fed up with this club, its just one farce after another of boring politics and diabolical communication with the membership. I feel for the volunteers who put so much work into it but unfortunately some of them also seem to be the cause of all the problems.
I remember when this was a car club for car enthusiasts with the effort being put into membership involvement and enjoyment....I think.
Joined DDK as was interested in the old cars....seems to be the place to be, followed by 911uk for newer 911's, pistonheads for the turbo's and GT's and boxa.net for boxsters.
God forbid the 964RS register and forum loses all its support here otherwise I'd not even login to PCGB or bother with the club at all.
HOPE FOR GOD'S SAKE YOU PICK THE RIGHT EARLY 911 REGISTER SECRETARY AND NOT SOME 2 BIT YES PERSON ASPIRING TO BE ON THE BOARD.
<poorly informed rant over>
pauljmcnulty
New member
I'd like to think that you'd log in to the 944 Forum....it is the most active of all! [8|]
Just a thought - there is a lot of moaning going on here, and I'm very aware that it's all justified. But, has anyone actually picked up the phone? Not everone is active on the forums, and a call to the people involved might be more useful than preaching to the converted!
Helen Goff
No.1 Poster
Darn, that rules me out then [
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