Where is the Early 911 Register Secretary?

Helen Goff · Sep 30, 2007

I Vote for Robin as R/S (problem solved and everyone is happy) [

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Mike Moore · Sep 30, 2007

ORIGINAL: Helen Goff

I Vote for Robin as R/S (problem solved and everyone is happy) []

Not everybody.......

you've now gone full circle and are putting forward the very person who has been less than forthcoming about what has been going on!

Can I remind you that Robin Walker has for at least the past 3 months been sitting on the fact that Philip Taysom had resigned, when asked by myself a couple of months ago by e-mail about what the situation was he did not mention that fact, nor did he to another member who asked him at Silverstone Classic.

Now I think before you start voting people in, we need to know the full background and the reasons for this odd behaviour.

IanHighfield · Sep 30, 2007

I've asked before, so here goes again :-

"What is the role of the R/S, and how are they elected (in PCGB eyes)?"

Ian

Helen Goff · Sep 30, 2007

ORIGINAL: highfield

I've asked before, so here goes again :-

"What is the role of the R/S, and how are they elected (in PCGB eyes)?"

Ian

(as i see it)

the role is basically to be a contact for owners of said model. to be the owners spokes person.( a go between the directors of the club and the members), also to keep a record of the members who own that model. to do a monthly report/ artical for porsche post and to organise, help, host, attend or represent the register at events, meetings, AGM and officials conferences.
to promote the register and encourage owners to participate. and Use their cars rather than just talk about them [8D]

they arn't usually elected, the job just goes to who ever is stupid anough to volenteer

geoff Ives · Oct 1, 2007

A Register Secretary is appointed by the Register Director.

During my term as Register Director I made my decision and them notified the rest of the Board before confirming the appointment. This was done, as a coutesy, in case another Director had an issue with my choise. They never had.

I believe that Robin has not been as fortunate as I was in. Other Directors seemed to think that they should all vote on an appointment and in one occaision, a couple of years ago, he was instructed NOT to appoint a particular person who had proven ability as a R/O. Is it any wonder that he feels isolated?

If the membership elects a Director he shoud be allowed to perform the task they were elected to

38F3E1 · Oct 1, 2007

ORIGINAL: Nick Moss

Excellent idea, Donnington sounds far more interesting than Silverstone. I have heard that Cadwell is an excellent venue, any comments?

Cadwell is really excellent until you venture off track as the barriers are close and unforgiving. Donnington is much better in this regard with lots of gravel to catch you. Donnington would get my vote for an early day. Interesting undulating track but relatively safe too so will cater for all levels.

Ian.

58A71E · Oct 2, 2007

ORIGINAL: jason
it just doesn't happen in this club....you could shout and scream from the rafters but the heirarchy very rarely seem to care enough to post on the forum.

Yep, a lot of things just doesnt happen in this club - an awful lot of bollotics does though [8|] Our membership of 5 years expired yesterday and wont be renewed.

As an owner of an early 911 and a 356, I'll be on DDK...

early 911 · Oct 2, 2007

Well I sent something in to club office calling for people to volunteer, so something should appear next month. Couple for comments in there (when describing the role and its appointment) that hopefully won't upset anyone too much . . . . we'll see [

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Understand Helen sent something too . . . which is cool.

Phil

Helen Goff · Oct 2, 2007

ORIGINAL: early 911

Well I sent something in to club office calling for people to volunteer, so something should appear next month. Couple for comments in there (when describing the role and its appointment) that hopefully won't upset anyone too much . . . . we'll see [][][]

Understand Helen sent something too . . . which is cool.

Phil

Hi Phil, hope i didn't tread on any toes, i didn't say anything as i wasn't expecting my scribblings to be excepted for PP.

early 911 · Oct 3, 2007

What the hell . . . here's what I sent in:

Well the Register Secretary position is sadly vacate again, so I thought I'd take the opportunity to advertise the fact here and try and drum up some interest. People ask "˜what do you have to do to be a Reg Sec' and the simple answer is "˜nothing much' . . . if you want a Register that no-one wants to be part off and is generally rubbish. My view is the more you can devote to the Register, the better it becomes.

To be a successful Reg Sec I believe the person running it needs to be:

- enthusiastic whatever happens (e.g. no-one turns up to your windswept event, don't get too disheartened)
good with people from all walks of life. The early 911 is as attractive to young VW bucks, as it is to the old fart brigade (on offence intended) . . you've got to be able to embrace them all and that's part of the fun.
able to deal with the PCGB stigma. There's no doubt there's a certain amount of "˜disengagement' between the club and the early crowd. You've got to be able to deal with the negative aspects of this and start generating positives.
- able to deal with PCGB itself. It contains lots of great people with honourable (but, lets be honest, sometimes potentially misguided) ideas about the future of the club. You've got to look to this future and stand up for the Register effectively (e.g. well thought out debate as opposed to throwing toys). A confrontational personally probably isn't always suited to building bridges and moving forward, but on the other hand you can't be a walk over.
- very conscious of the fact that the PCGB is fundamentally a car club, not a political body, or business (i.e. avoid unnecessary bollotics). Business does form part of it, but in my mind it should be a small part.

On the practical side you've got to:

- have a pre 1974 911 (an "˜early pre-impact bumper 911') . . . preferably running, but in any condition. Having a modified car doesn't preclude you either, although something like a 964 update probably doesn't represent the ethos too well. Whatever car you've got, you've got to treat every member equally (e.g. RS recreation or concours queen . . . each has there place).
- have the time to devote to the role. This doesn't mean you have to be retired, just not working all hours with a hectic personal life.
- maintain, update and improve the Register database. This involves contacting members (and non members) to find out more about their car and updating the data held on the Register. The Register should be seen as an important archive, and at the risk of being controversial, despite my initial views about RHD snobbery when I first started as Reg Sec (and despite owning a LHD car myself) it properly is more important to chase down the RHD UK cars "" as their numbers are finite and their history can be better traced back to Stuttgart. Despite this, please don't get me wrong, the Register is open to anyone, member or not, running or not, RHD or not (NB to club office, please forward on any hate mail)[/i]
- write and co-ordinate the monthly Register report. For some "˜The Post' is their only involvement with the club and therefore you have to make every effort to get something in there that's informative and interesting to read (a running list of dairy events isn't good enough). People want technical articles if at all possible. Member articles are great if you can get them.
- be available via phone, and e-mail and if possible the forum. I used to say evening calls only (as I was at work), but there was never a huge influx of calls or e-mails (apart from prior to events).
have a basic understanding of the mechanical and structural elements of the car. Not hugely important, as there is technical assistance in the form on Russell at RSR Engineering . . but you will get asked, and the more you can deal with the better (although never guess).
- want to organise events. The track day at Silverstone was a success as was Classics in the castle. Low key events are popular and cost is always important (to the punter and the club).
- be present at events (home and if possible abroad e.g. Classic Le Mans, Oldtimer GP and Essen), organising the Register parking, being the welcoming face, trying to get people to attend generally a point of contact.
- attend the workers conferences, putting forward ideas, concerns, and generally speaking up for the Register (cars and members).
- help source cars for magazine shoots, or special displays.

Sounds fun doesn't it? In all seriousness, it is a rewarding role as you learn a lot and get to meet and make friends with all manner of people. The opportunity is there to bring a little joy into the lives of people owning these wonderful cars.

There's been a fair amount of activity on the forum about this topic, and Helen Goff has kindly volunteered. As with most things, everyone has to have an opportunity to step forward, hence this "˜advert'. If you want to apply (remembering that the Board will ultimately decide who officially runs the Register) I suggest you e-mail or better still call Robin Walker (the current Register Director and "˜assistant' Register Secretary). He is a busy man with plenty of work and club related worries, so please bare with him . . . he's a volunteer, as are the majority of the people running the club.

All the best.

Phil Johnson

Suppose I'm most worried about the RHD comments . . . and I can imagine people thinking what a t*sser (if they don't think that already). 'Chase down' - I mean go that extra mile . . . 'finite' I mean that early 911's are still being imported.

Oh well . . . it may well get edited . . . we'll see.

Phil

Mike Moore · Oct 4, 2007

Well done Phil, in the meantime I'm sure Robin has got the edelweiss out of his lederhosen by now, so can I remind him........

ORIGINAL: Robin
We leave on Friday 21st September and will drive about 2300 miles in the week. I am afraid that you will have to wait for my return before you know anything about what is going on

We're still waiting!

Helen Goff · Oct 9, 2007

ORIGINAL: Mike Moore

Well done Phil, in the meantime I'm sure Robin has got the edelweiss out of his lederhosen by now, so can I remind him........

ORIGINAL: Robin
We leave on Friday 21st September and will drive about 2300 miles in the week. I am afraid that you will have to wait for my return before you know anything about what is going on

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We're still waiting!

[&:] hope your not still holding your breath Mike [

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Mike Moore · Oct 9, 2007

[&:] hope your not still holding your breath Mike []

this thread has had nearly two and a half thousand hits and the register directer STILL hasn't had the decency to reply to our questions!
It really does go to show what PCGB think of its members.

912UK · Oct 9, 2007

Some harsh words indeed have been said..

Maurice I know there was more to Helen and Larry and they did spent time in their respective rolls for some time.

Personaly I feel they did their best and were not given a fair chance to change a few things for the better , just told to tow the line.

Your quite harsh there, unfairly..I am not saying there are things going on with in the club of you must do this and do that. But there has been more comments being made about he was told to do xxx and she was told to do xxx

If these people are put in place to do a role that members have voted for them to do I would like to think they are left to work towards the members best interests and not to do what they are told to do from above. Any way as Phil says so well .... bollictics and it's very ugly esp for new members looking in..

anyway lets hope all this get sorted soon.

Guest · Oct 10, 2007

Hi, I have had the pleasure to meet Robin and his wife on several occasions.
He spends every spare minute over and above his full time job on Porsche Club, his wife behind him all the way - and they have both been very active members for many many years.
Its people like that that keep the club going. There are a few members with such dedication and drive.
We do not know all the facts. For all we know, he has been told by the board not to say anything, so reserve judgement and try directing your questions to the chairman for a response.
I would stand 100% behind Robin with no reservations whatsoever. We should be applauding him for his efforts.
Sue

Helen Goff · Oct 10, 2007

ORIGINAL: Sue O

Hi, I have had the pleasure to meet Robin and his wife on several occasions.
He spends every spare minute over and above his full time job on Porsche Club, his wife behind him all the way - and they have both been very active members for many many years.
Its people like that that keep the club going. There are a few members with such dedication and drive.
We do not know all the facts. For all we know, he has been told by the board not to say anything, so reserve judgement and try directing your questions to the chairman for a response.
I would stand 100% behind Robin with no reservations whatsoever. We should be applauding him for his efforts.
Sue

wise words indeed and i agree with most.

well said sue. although i don't see the point in having directors if its the chairman that has to make all the decissions. i'm pretty sure Peter has got better things to do.

912UK · Oct 10, 2007

Yes I spoke with Robin a few times and he is a nice guy works very hard and has a similar opion on a certain subject as me..

But it is odd this has taken a while but I am sure it will get sorted, I am miffed to why people are being told to do or not to things from the board.. still not right..

Gary C · Oct 10, 2007

Must admit, I have just got my first Porsche and joining PCGB was one of the priorities, with this thread and a similar one in the 928 forum, I am seriously thinking of looking elsewhere.

Mark_Bennett · Oct 10, 2007

Gary,

Just go along to a local meeting or two, talk to felllow owners, and enjoy yourself. That's what it's all about. [

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Gary C · Oct 10, 2007

Probably true, but this thread and the other does not do much for the perception of the club.

Don't understand all the issues but it looks as if the clubs board don't care. It is damaging the club and should be sorted out (but not by deleting the thread).