Suffolk944
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Personally I think it should stay as a monument to your insanity for ever considering such a thing [
]WUF for sale?
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Personally I think it should stay as a monument to your insanity for ever considering such a thing [
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sawood12
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Unless you are some form of masochist who, in their spare time, likes to get upto things that would be considered illegal in many countries around the world then I seriously doubt that you could do anywhere near the mileage you clocked up last weekind in WUF in the SC you were looking at.
DivineE
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Selling the 3.2 got me out of the financial trouble that building it got me into. It was just all those little bits at the end that added up and very nearly tipped me over. I could never have afforded to do the things to it that I felt it really needed to complete. Proven correct in fact as the next owner proceeded to spend something in the region on £15k getting the rest of the car up to spec to match the engine. It's quite some car now. Was running 422hp and 495lb/ft torque at some ridiculously low boost level last time I saw it! I'm fairly certain it would have matched the new GTR I got in afterwards down the main straight at Silverstone. The GTR seemed to be coming out of the corner a lot faster and still only hitting the same speeds at the end of the straight.
Sad times, I had to let it go. [&o]
Perhaps good times for WUF today. I've spoken to Simon P this afternoon and ordered a turbo because if I'm going to be keeping WUF it's something that needed to be doneb before the dyno day
..and to help throttle response lower in the revs.Regards,
Ben
p.s. Scott yes, I probably would still have done the journey but I can imagine I might have been rather less pleasant! It was a bit hot in the mid day sun. Can't talk down my love of the car though. I'm gutted I missed it at that price.
sawood12
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Well Ben, I love your style, but it is good you're keeping WUF. I thought you were crazy selling the 3.2 but I can understand how the financial burden of something like that can take its toll and as soon as the ends no longer justify the means then it is time to get out. There are plenty of things I would have liked to have done in my car before I sold it (and I was only scratching the surface) which i kept on putting off due to buying kit for it. It is easy to get distracted by modding the thing and forget to drive it more. Buying an already modded car, even for a bit of a premium, is definitely the way to go.
Would love to know more about your old 3.2. You can't feed us a snippet like that then leave us hanging. Reminds me of that joke "How do you keep an idiot in suspense....."?
Would love to know more about your old 3.2. You can't feed us a snippet like that then leave us hanging. Reminds me of that joke "How do you keep an idiot in suspense....."?
George Elliott
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I second that Paul.
Good move Ben
George
944t
Good move Ben
George
944t
DivineE
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I understand the comments about my idiocy but it's a hard thing to put a value on a car like wuf and especially one you preferably wanted gone in 7-14 days. Obviously i'm aware there are those like me who would pay a good deal more for the car and if I do end up selling, I will hold out for stronger money.
I think you non believers should really try an early rs lightweight 911 or similar. There is something in the magic of driving a car, which had steering so light and pollution free it could be turned almost without touching the wheel, a throttle so delicate that the car will leap forward with less pressure than you'd need to crush an egg shell and a chassis balance which can be felt through the seat practically when parked.
I longed to explore the limits of that car and learn how to master it's character, but now that it's gone there isn't another 911 which offers the same experience for even twice the money.
I realise I own a car so well prepared that even at almost double it's standard horsepower the limits of it's handling
and chassis hadn't even crossed my mind! I think with the slight compression lift from the bottom end refresh I planned anyway, the more serious head that's in the boot and one of Simon's very responsive turbos WUF could be finished off into a car that very little at any price would be able to match. Perhaps a track day or two this summer would make me appreciate the capabilities of such a well rounded package.
I think you non believers should really try an early rs lightweight 911 or similar. There is something in the magic of driving a car, which had steering so light and pollution free it could be turned almost without touching the wheel, a throttle so delicate that the car will leap forward with less pressure than you'd need to crush an egg shell and a chassis balance which can be felt through the seat practically when parked.
I longed to explore the limits of that car and learn how to master it's character, but now that it's gone there isn't another 911 which offers the same experience for even twice the money.
I realise I own a car so well prepared that even at almost double it's standard horsepower the limits of it's handling
and chassis hadn't even crossed my mind! I think with the slight compression lift from the bottom end refresh I planned anyway, the more serious head that's in the boot and one of Simon's very responsive turbos WUF could be finished off into a car that very little at any price would be able to match. Perhaps a track day or two this summer would make me appreciate the capabilities of such a well rounded package.
It seems to me that your dissatisfaction with WUF/the attraction of that SC is because all of WUF's power comes in at the top end and it actually has relatively little torque lower down. Moving to a BB turbo (with suitable remapping of course) will help here, but the other head (I presume it is the bigger valve one) will probably make more power at the top end, but again, at the expense of the mid range.
I don't think you are going to get that razer sharp throttle response at sensible revs.....
On track though, what a blast![
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George Elliott
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Ben, are you planning to add a vent line to the new head?
Hey, I understand the rear engined - ballet front wheels thing, the slow in, fast out and G force if the power is not interrupted, but wind , rain, misted windows, tricky change of a 915 box, poor standard brakes biased to front, and unwanted attention when parked (less so as the air-cooled cars age) mean that a sorted 951 is a brilliant alternative with a hatch back.
Glad to hear you are putting your touch to Ricks work on WUF
George
944T
Hey, I understand the rear engined - ballet front wheels thing, the slow in, fast out and G force if the power is not interrupted, but wind , rain, misted windows, tricky change of a 915 box, poor standard brakes biased to front, and unwanted attention when parked (less so as the air-cooled cars age) mean that a sorted 951 is a brilliant alternative with a hatch back.
Glad to hear you are putting your touch to Ricks work on WUF
George
944T
DivineE
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Honeslty it doesn't feel as extreme as that. It might sound odd but the 2.5 with the boost turned up just doesn't feel as stressed as my 3.2. Perhaps the cooling in the 2.7 head is different on the 3.0 conversions, the cooling in the block certainly is but further work doesn't feel necessary at the moment.
WUF doesn't get hot, doesn't fade in power after a hard drive.. for all intensive purposes it feels like a standard car in that way. I'm hoping the BB turbo will do more to boost the mid range torque than anything else, the custom head is sitting unused in the boot and the bottom end re-fresh just seems like a good idea as it's done 140k and it would be easier to drop the engine to change the turbo anyway.
Any extra hp the car gets will be more a bi-product of a fresh engine than any intention to take the tuning further. I like where the car is in terms of wear/usability. The ability to do Scottish tours without insident as Rick used to or take it on a 700mile drive like I did the other day is a big benefit of the 944 I don't want to push it to the point it becomes solely a weekend racer.
I'm feeling rather better at the moment about the rarity of what I have, it's nice that WUF has all those features I searched for on a 944 over the years. It's just that feeling of the old 911 I cant shake off. It's the most pleasurable few seconds I've ever had behind a steering wheel and I drove like a saint 'well close'. Things like this image really aren't helping either!
Wish I could justify both.
George Elliott
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Ben, that thing would not run like WUF with Champion plugs in it[]
keep up the good work
George
]keep up the good work
George
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