718 Cayman GT4 is here – at long last.!

[Motorhead]

Dave,

Good call on both counts. I wouldn't spec PCCBs myself when the standard cast iron brakes on the GT4 are so good, despite the well-publicised advantages that the PCCBs have (I know that Brian is a keen advocate having optioned them on his 718 GTS). Crayon would have been an interesting colour choice (why is it so expensive?) but you can't go wrong in choosing Porsche's launch colour of Racing Yellow.

I think you mentioned that you're planning to finalise your spec today, so hope everything goes smoothly at your Dealership. Let us know how it goes.

Jeff

 

[Twinfan]

Cheers Jeff, will do. Shouldn't be much to do, just the few changes mentioned above. The interior etc is staying as per my current order.

Without wishing to get into a debate, as it's been done to death recently on PistonHeads, the only advantages PCCBs have on a GT car (in my opinion) are less brake dust and they look more "trick". On a non-GT car they are quite different (6-pot vs 4-pot fronts and much larger discs all round) so there is an advantage, but basically because the braking system is upgraded. On a GT car, you're essentially just swapping discs for some that are a bit different but more fragile. Other people swear they make a big difference in feel and stopping distance but I'm not convinced.

 

[Motorhead]

So I’ve been following the post re:-718 GT4 for some time now and to be honest, I’m very confused with the so called expert opinions of those that have obviously not driven the car or even seen one. There are some valued contributors, although I’m finding it

more and more depressing as I thought that this site was meant to be one of support and not one where people continually bitch about things that actually make others feel bad rather than feeling good about their decisions and spec selections. If I had bought and spec’d a car to what I wanted for what ever reason and had shared it with a forum of supposedly likeminded people, I would be devastated to hear from those that are just happy pouring out negative comments from jealously or thinking that they have the answer to everything

A Few points to consider for all

How would you feel if you’d spent your hard earned or saved cash on your dream only for someone to pour scorn on it (pretty bad I guess)

if porsche was your company would you give all the extras away? Yes it costs money, if it didn’t then everyone would drive one and the cars would become run of the mill Daewoo's (you don't go into Porsche ownership expecting cheap motoring unless you are blind)

petrol cars will not be disappearing anytime soon. As the previous post says enjoy them while you can

if you really hate porsche and their business methods then talk with your feet and go somewhere else

I support all those that have been lucky enough to get one and whatever colour and spec they have chosen - yes I have opinions, but I respect each and everyone else’s so keep them

to myself

spec it, buy it, enjoy it and stick your fingers up to those who perhaps don’t understand how their thoughts impact others

David,

Unlike other forums I could mention I believe that on here we all - Members and Guests alike - are always respectful of other people's opinions and choices, yours included, and that comes from more than 8 years and 4,000 posts on this and other forums here. Certainly I don't recognise some of your comments and criticisms leveled at unnamed posts here and can only assume that somehow you've got hold of the wrong end of the stick, which has led to a misunderstanding on your part.

Although I note that you're not a regular contributor, I'm very pleased to hear that you've been following this post for some time but would encourage you direct any comments or criticisms to specific posts when they appear so that they can be addressed at the time.

Jeff

 

[Twinfan]

Dave,

I think you mentioned that you're planning to finalise your spec today, so hope everything goes smoothly at your Dealership. Let us know how it goes.

Jeff

Hi Jeff - all done, full custard with jam now specced up and ordered. Build is still scheduled for the end of January with delivery to me in early March.

Mine is the third GT4 at my OPC, the first in Gentian Blue is due any day and the second in Guards Red is due in a couple of weeks.

 

[Motorhead]

Excellent..! Job done Dave - always a good feeling when you've made the final decision and the pressure's off. Now you only have to sit back and wait for delivery in March for the new registration and hopefully better weather than we're having right now.!

Allocations do seem to be thin on the ground at the moment; witness your own dealership. Maybe things will crank up a bit next year, but it looks as though about one or two cars per dealer a month is the current norm.

I saw a Gentian Blue Boxster at the Silverstone Centre last week which had definite showroom appeal under the lights, although I've not seen one in daylight. The great thing about your chosen colour is that while it always looks good under artificial light, it's also very eye-catching in daylight conditions. The only downside as far as I can see is that yellow is a bug-magnet during the summer months.! []

Jeff

 

[Twinfan]

Yep, having had a bright yellow Ducati 749S in the past I'm very familiar with that issue!

Allocations are indeed thin on the ground, but as I said I'm getting GT4 #3 at my OPC and car #2 is going to a fairly recent customer without a big spending history. Where are the VIPs? Waiting for PDK? Or the RS (more likely)? Or have the speculators decided it's not worth it any more?

The times they are a-changing...

 

[Motorhead]

I'm sure quite a few people are hanging out for PDK Dave, which hopefully gives those of us who aren't interested in PDK a better shot at an allocation in the short term. If the GT3 RS is anything to go by then allocations will be even rarer, and for the very chosen few. I reckon a GT4 RS is still some way off though.

The last time I looked there were a couple of 718 GT4s up for sale at inflated prices, and there are always those who are prepared to pay the price for the 'latest thing' to keep the speculators happy, in the short term at least.

Jeff

 

[Twinfan]

I guess I'm just surprised that myself and buyer #2 are right at the top of the list at my OPC. Maybe it depends on which OPC you use. From the PistonHeads info, it seems that normal buyers seem to be getting hold of cars elsewhere too so maybe it's just a mixed bag.

Whatever the reasons, I'm just really glad to be getting a car at the perfect time for me - just before my 981 GTS is due a 4yr service and ready for my annual car-related outings as the weather picks up.

 

[Motorhead]

From what you say Dave, I assume that you're trading your 981 GTS. Was the GT4 slot dependent upon a trade?

As you say, great timing if - hopefully - the car arrives on schedule.

Jeff

 

[Twinfan]

The same question came up on PistonHeads this afternoon, Jeff. No strings whatsoever with my allocation. I've paid my deposit, I've locked my spec and my car is on order. How I pay for the car and/or whether I part-ex has only been discussed in passing.

 

[Motorhead]

That’s refreshing to hear Dave, and exactly how it should be. Makes a change from the shoddy dealings I’ve seen reported about the way some PCs have been operating, e.g. taking deposits without there being an allocation.

Jeff

 

[Motorhead]

Here’s a PH piece on driving the 718 GT4 Clubsport at Silverstone.

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/porsche-718-cayman-gt4-clubsport--driven/41371

Let’s hope it’s a decent sized field when the Porsche Sprint Challenge gets underway.

Jeff

 

[MAD07]

Hi,

I am going in to pay my deposit and finalise my build tomorrow, I too have been told I’m #3 at my PC..

I would also class myself as a “normal” Porsche owner so good on them for choosing brand history over purchase history..

Im 52 years old and am excited for the morning and it’s great to have something to look forward to at my age, roll on March.

Mark.

 

[Motorhead]

That’s good news Mark, and also great to hear that true Porsche enthusiasts are at last getting a chance to own a GT car.

Hope all goes well tomorrow. Something to look forward to after Christmas.!

Jeff

 

[Motorhead]

The 718 GT4 flippers are at work already. JZM have a very basic spec car for £93k while 911 Sport have a full-laden car up for £109k. It makes the lowest priced 981 GT4 on PH with 26,500 miles seem a comparative bargain at £68k.

Other forum chatter has pointed out the "*Limited availability" note against the 718 Spyder and GT4 on the configurator has been removed - an accident, or perhaps a sign that Porsche definitely will attempt to satisfy demand this time round? If so, I'm sure that this will have an effect upon 981 Spyder and GT4 prices once 718 deliveries crank-up, although I doubt that Porsche will be flooding the market. And everything depends upon the availability of build-slots at Osnabrück.

Jeff

 

[Twinfan]

Don't forget the guy who's paid £10k for a build slot.

I think it's daft, if you want a car you just need to open a dialogue with your OPC and wait. I think there'll be enough for everyone who wants one.

 

[Motorhead]

£10k for a slot..? That chap must be desperate Dave. Did he get to spec the car or did he just take on someone else's order?

With no replacement in sight it looks as though 718 production could run into 2023, perhaps with a minor refresh in 2021, so I'd agree that there should be sufficient capacity to meet demand for GT4s and Spyders as well as the 718-6s when they arrive.

Jeff

 

[Twinfan]

He chose the spec. Obviously couldn't wait.

I think he's thrown his money away, personally...

 

[MAD07]

And there will deffo be a GT4RS I was told while signing the dotted line.

 

[Twinfan]

I can't think of a case where a spotted mule hasn't become an actual car, so I also think an RS is coming. Swansong for ICE in the Cayster platform? There's also the non-GT 718-6 Cayman and Boxster on their way too.

So the engine in the 718 GT4 and 718 Spyder will be both tuned up and tuned down for some new models before we go electric.