Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

[kitchens]

A few of us on this forum have had both models 987 981 including myself. I still have the 987 coming up for 10ys ownership .I prefer the 987 in that it feels a bit old school less teck much like you're own 987 .

The 981 imo is a nicer looking car over the 718 never driven one so cannot comment on the difference sound and engine wise. The 987 is fast enough for my style of driving ,agree the sound of the 981 is nice but after a while you get fed up with the pops and bangs and switch it off, the + on the 987 is you can get access the rear boot with the hood up ... can't do this on the 981 718 without undoing the hood first...hope it's not a wet day the roof up on the 987 is not ideal if using on high speed autobahn journeys recommended top speed 115 whereas the 981 718 good for 180.

 

[ScottishSpyder]

I drive my 2.9 987.2 as my summer daily and also just did 3 weeks in Northern Spain-Fab. Really useable power on UK roads without incurring the wrath of plod. I use my 718 Spyder for longer weekend runs. Both very different , but for me offer a perfect balance. As an aside , I don't think you will loose a lot of cash on either.

 

[daro911]

To be frank, the main pro on my end for the 981 is the sound. I imagine that, by now, there are some good options for the 718 in that department.

Thanks for the response!

To create a decent sound track on a 718 is going to cost and final results don't match a factory standard 981 PSE IMO

Fast forward to 10m mark and conclusion is one I have heard from several owners of all 3 models

[link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3cUd5QhEkA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3cUd5QhEkA[/link]

987 Spyder

981 Spyder

718 Spyder

Each one is a winner in its own right and only a potential buyer can make the call which one is right for them as price differences span a wide area

 

[SJPS]

Hmm... back to square one. Although a very interesting fact on the 987.2 boot being accessible with the roof up.

It seems owning a 'beater' Boxster (such as mine which, hopefully, will always take me from A to B) along with a Spyder for those special trips is a common and nice combination. On that note, I think it would be more special to have two different generations of Boxster. I'm leaning to the 981/718 generations as I've already got the lovely 987.2.

I was hoping to get a 718 Boxster as a loaner car (in an attempt to compare the chassis of each generation) while they fix my 987.2 - no luck.

Thanks all for the responses, much appreciated!

 

[MrDemon]

I forgot about the painfull oil heat up time in the 981 and VERY bad MPG. my 981 GT4 and Spyder are some of the worse cars I have owned for mpg and the oil heat up time is daft, so trips to the shops or anything under 6 miles is going to damage the car and have the car rotting from the inside out.

Track miles are sub 6 mpg fast hoons are 17 mpg if you are lucky !

The rides not a patch on the 718 also, and remember the 718 is more GT4 and more GT car with fully adjustable shocks LCA and GT brakes, the 981 is a Boxster GTS with a detuned 3.8 fitted nothing more, it felt under tyred at the rear also with skinny 265's on the back with having a 3.8.

If you spend £10k on the engine you get a great engine though, but still stuck with early gen EPS which is horrible imo. the 981 GT4 was ok the Spyder was crap sadly with EPS. About time some one hacked the EPS maps to give it GT4 feel steering. I think if I did not have 718 Spyder money I would not bother with a 981 Spyder and just get a 981 GTS £10k less, and have a working roof and choice of gearbox. Or get the 981 GT4 if you have a Boxster already. Too many other cars in the range to choose a 981 Spyder to be 1st choice.

the noise while loud don't suit the cars and coffee nature of the car either, so you take the other half to the cotswolds for tea and when you over take any car it's embarrassing I thought. The Asbo sound did not match the lifestye drive. YOU cannot turn it off as it opens the valves if you hard WOT so people do think you are a bit of a **** in the cotswolds if you have to over take. Sadly the 981 GTS also pops and farts. The 981 GT4 sounded great.

 

[daro911]

I forgot about the painfull oil heat up time in the 981 and VERY bad MPG. my 981 GT4 and Spyder are some of the worse cars I have owned for mpg and the oil heat up time is daft, so trips to the shops or anything under 6 miles is going to damage the car and have the car rotting from the inside out.

The rides not a patch on the 718 also, and remember the 718 is more GT4 and more GT car with fully adjustable shocks LCA and GT brakes

the noise while loud don't suit the cars and coffee nature of the car either, so you take the other half to the cotswolds for tea and when you over take any car it's embarrassing I thought. The Asbo sound did not match the lifestye drive. YOU cannot turn it off as it opens the valves if you hard WOT so people do think you are a bit of a **** in the cotswolds if you have to over take. Sadly the 981 GTS also pops and farts. The 981 GT4 sounded great.

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Great points Mr D even if totally exaggerated and contradicted by Mr Catchpole:-

20' Today so off on what is very close to summer Spyder driving

4.2 Miles and oil level was showing 3/4 full ie normal level when warmed, the oils temp at this time was 90c

7.2 Miles and temp was fully warmed to 102c

For the record and rarely breaking the speed limits I manage an easy 21-25mpg around town or short 10 mile runs

Quick blast like todays 35 miles equaled a very reasonable 28.4 mpg

Faster longer runs on A roads or motorways I can get 31-34mpg say 50 plus miles

The far more brittle ride on both my previous 987 Spyders weren't a patch on my 981's and as Henry rightly says "it rides very well"

A point not mentioned above was the 987's optional short shift gear change excellent as it is IMO isn't as good as the 981's standard very short shift

The noise isn't loud compared to supercars and if its too loud for some there is always the option to use the off switch to bring it back to very subdued levels below 4k rpm which is mad speeds in any gear bar maybe 1st and no audible pops and bangs on the overrun (PSE OFF) to frighten the horses but as Henry says "it sounds phenomenal" when ON and something a 718 Spyder can;t come close to replicate IMO with a JCR or equivalent £5k +++ box

Finally, unlike Mr D who clearly favours the GTS version, Henry states the 981 Spyder is the best model in the 981 range and "lifts it above the GTS" clearly demonstrated by the residuals today

IMO all Spyders are winners 987/981/718 and which one suits you best can be found with test drives if money isn't the key fact and if it is then go for the cheapest version the 987 Spyder and enjoy each mile as it won't disappoint

Enjoy the video from a man who knows his cars [link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Bmi-2Yk20]Porsche Boxster Spyder | evo DIARIES - YouTube[/link]

 

[daro911]

[link=https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2010-porsche-987-boxster-spyder]https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2010-porsche-987-boxster-spyder[/link]

 

[MrDemon]

Mr Catchpole:- don't have a clue it's a 30 minute go in one and the 718 was not out then to compare ! or at best a day in it lol, He also likes the pops and bangs as did many early doors but it wears thin imo. And sadly all jurno's never give a bad review these days it's not what they do and would be bad for clicks and gettihng future cars to test.

SO every car is amazing now days on you tube :-( I ran a 981 for 9 months not 1/2 a day lol. The 987 shift is great but wears fast as it's all plastic but it is a 911 shifter part number, I have Ballraced and shimmed my 987 short shift and then it's better than the 981 for £200 on parts after 11 years use.

981 is a great car just comes 3rd out of the 3 Spyders for me and had too many short commings, detuned engine , tyre size, no adjustments , Bad EPS, low MPG, long gearing etc etc it's a long list of down sides.. as you state 7.2 miles to get fully warm, my GT3 did that in 3 miles ! the 718 not as good as the GT3 sadly and takes a bit longer but returns much better mpg esp on track which makes big differance. As for ride I think they are about the same 987/981 both having X73 the 981 has bigger wheels remember so more crashy tyre sizes. the 718 rides very well PASM non sport, I think 987/981 would be more to do with which tyres are used over which was less crashy.

ALso you state 21-25mpg but you said my figures were wrong !! your 21mpg is within the speed limits is VERY bad imho, I tend to drive way above these and higher up the rev range. So what Mpg I got is a fact, and maybe yours is also a fact just different as I drive them harder it seems. I don't favour the GTS 981 and would never buy one as I hate the gen 1 EPS on all these cars, I said if I was going to buy a 981 Spyder and had no issues with the poor EPS then a GTS is prob a better car to live with imo.

 

[daro911]

05/11/2009 First public showing for the brand new 987 Spyder

 

[kitchens]

your first post way back in 2012

happy birthday to present and past owners and a big thanks to Robert Stone for his impute over all these years

 

[daro911]

your first post way back in 2012

happy birthday to present and past owners and a big thanks to Robert Stone for his impute over all these years

Very kind of you Brian but couldn't have done any of this without all you Spyder folk chipping in and building this corner on PCGB website

Spyder cap off to you still owning your fab Racing Red original example must be a personal record keeping this one so long

 

[daro911]

[link=https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-porsche-987-boxster-spyder-4]2011 PORSCHE (987) BOXSTER SPYDER (collectingcars.com)[/link]

Will it sell and what will it achieve now the markets have turned [&:]

 

[SJPS]

So much information on these cars. Thanks everyone above for the tips. I'm definitely back to square one as all three cars seem to be excellent in their own way. Best to just try them all out and see then!

On a bright note, I'm getting my Boxster back this weekend (which is definitely an upgrade to the Fiat Panda I was driving..oh dear). Turns out I had a cracked clutch-line. I did not expect that!

 

[daro911]

[link=https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-porsche-987-boxster-spyder-4]2011 PORSCHE (987) BOXSTER SPYDER (collectingcars.com)[/link]

Will it sell and what will it achieve now the markets have turned [&:]

Only 4 bids and £27250 highest so far with less than 24 hours to go no doubt not helped by the promised Eye Watering Budget []

 

[daro911]

[link=https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-porsche-987-boxster-spyder-4]2011 PORSCHE (987) BOXSTER SPYDER (collectingcars.com)[/link]

SOLD SOLD SOLD £33650 For the SELLER and £35669 to the new owner

 

[ralphmusic]

There is no limit to taste..

 

[georgedouglasdmw]

[link=https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2011-porsche-987-boxster-spyder-4]2011 PORSCHE (987) BOXSTER SPYDER (collectingcars.com)[/link]

SOLD SOLD SOLD £33650 For the SELLER and £35669 to the new owner

Now up for sale at Imperials for £39,948 by looks of the mileage:

[link=https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14219568?utm_source=pistonheads&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=saved%20search]https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14219568[/link]

 

[kitchens]

Was a decent buy at £35.669 with 52K miles nice spec but not sure at new price...seem to remember looking at Flat 6 car when he was selling it was around the £35K mark may have been 8yrs ago ?

 

[daro911]

Was a decent buy at £35.669 with 52K miles nice spec but not sure at new price...seem to remember looking at Flat 6 car when he was selling it was around the £35K mark may have been 8yrs ago ?

Brian some old adverts from back in the day to ponder yonder []

 

[MrDemon]

Nice to see cars at £40k with 52k miles on them.