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Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

Another sort of Spyder based on a 911 but continuing the tradition of the original 550 & 987 Spyders The iconic Spyder moniker has been applied to special light-weight, open-top Porsche sports cars since the 550 Spyder of 1953. It still continues today with the Boxster Spyder road car and RS Spyder racer. It is then perhaps peculiar that despite 47 years in production Porsche has never produced a Spyder based on a 911. The original 550 Spyder gained fame amongst motorsport enthusiasts for its giant killing abilities on the track, taking Porsche to its first major win in Sports Car racing in the 1956 Targa Florio where the car’s modest 1500cc four cylinder, 4-cam engine had no trouble propelling the super-light car to victory ahead of far more powerful 3 litre Maseratis and Mercedes and 3.4 litre Ferraris. Of course, amongst the general population the little 550 is probably better known for the way in which chassis number 130 met its end on Route 466 with James Dean behind the wheel. In 1957 the 550 gave way to the 718 RS Spyder which continued Porsche’s winning ways taking first in class at Le Mans in 1958 and outright victory in the Targa Florio again in 1959. The Spyder formula was simple; light weight, low drag, little or no windscreen and certainly no roof. The motor needn’t have more power than its rivals if it didn’t have to propel as much mass up the road. It worked beautifully and the Porsche Spyder legend was born. At PS we have been building bespoke 911s from our north Essex base under the PS Autoart banner for 8 years now. From track-focused stripped-out 2.7 RS style cars to more subtle early 70s style road cars based on 1990s 911s with air-con, power steering, sat nav and other such luxuries. PS has always been at the forefront of the industry in terms of innovation, prevalence and quality. The idea of a special one-off, aluminium bodied 911 Spyder has been with us for a number of years and the car you see here is the result of thousands of hours of careful research, craftsmanship and development and decades of experience with 911s. Porsche themselves came close to a 911 Spyder with its Speedster variants, indeed an original prototype of the 1989 Speedster carried a Perspex flyscreen similar to that which the PS car wears, but Porsche eventually decided to err on the side of comfort rather than performance. There were nods to light weight in the production Speedster’s manual windows and lack of rear seats, but it carried a full glass screen and hood and the kerb weight came in at over 1200kg, over twice that of the 1950s cars and barely any lighter than a contemporary 911 coupe. The PS Spyder takes the opposing stance. It tips the scales at just 950kg, a full 350kg less than the 1989 3.2 Carrera Targa which it began life as. The substantial saving is achieved by a few very obvious changes and numerous more subtle ones. The glass front and rear screens are gone, as is the Targa roll hoop. The majority of the heater is removed, leaving just the same system as the earliest 911s where the heat is blown forward purely by the engine fan. The heavy impact bumpers are replaced with PS’s own composite items. The PS Spyder was never intended to be a Caterham chaser, it doesn’t compromise all of its comfort and ease-of-use in pursuit of light weight. Where it suddenly becomes very special is when you start to look in more detail at the panels. Externally, all four wings are standard Porsche steel items, but absolutely everything else is hand formed in aluminium. The doors feel wonderfully light and are finished at the top with a roll that sweeps round and into the dash board, (also aluminium) which draws numerous cues from the 50s cars. The engine lid is the same with two rows of louvers in place of the 911s usual grill. The front bonnet loses the recess that is needed on the standard car to feed fresh air to the cockpit and becomes entirely smooth, save for the protruding fuel filler, complete with its one-off screw cap, machined from solid billet. The rear luggage cover with twin head fairings, again aluminium, is an utter work of art and perfectly evokes the original Spyder items, right down to the red leather head pads. The car is all about detail and the longer you look at it, the more you grow to appreciate just how much consideration has gone into every item. The dials are pure Stuttgart, but are recalibrated to be visible through the smaller 370mm steering wheel. The dash clock is again fundamentally the Porsche item, but is reworked to feature PS’s own chronographs. The awkward rear reflectors that usually sit outside the bumper overriders on an early 911 are gone, but to satisfy the MoT man a new reflector is incorporated into the off-side tail light assembly in place of one of the reverse lights. The gearknob is a perfect recreation of the pre-1973 Porsche item, but remade to show the shift pattern of the later gearbox. The doors are opened by bespoke machined aluminium handles concealed within the door pockets. The luggage cover opens elegantly on hinges borrowed from a current model 911. The front bumper is more shallow and delicate than that of the quicker early 911s but a subtle black spoiler sits below it to ensure it doesn’t leave the road above 150mph. The list goes on and on. Climbing inside you drop down far lower in the car than in a standard 911 and the cockpit closes warmly around you. You also sit closer to the centre of the cabin than in a standard 911, putting the pedals at a better angle to your body. The PS Spyder is no stripped-out road racer, it’s actually a rather comfortable place to be and it instantly feels far more special than the rather sombre interior of an early 911. Pull out the ignition switch and thumb the starter button (both one-offs, turned from aluminium) and the 250bhp air-cooled six scrabbles into life. It’s not a snarling mass of tin can chatter like classic 911 racers, more a cultured, angry thrum, breathing out heavily through twin centre-exit 3 inch pipes. The drive is designed to be a perfect balance between the delicacy, lightness and precision of an early 911 and the more fluid and planted nature of a 1980s Carrera. The mechanics are fundamentally all standard 1989 3.2 Carrera. The engine is rebuilt to standard specification but carefully balanced and custom remapped to produce 250bhp against the standard 231bhp. A lightweight flywheel is fitted to reduce the slightly lazy-revving character of the long-stroke 3.2. The gearbox is standard, as are the brakes. The suspension too is the same spec that Porsche fitted in 1989, though with PS’s own geometry dialled in. The car is an exercise in what can be realised through craftsmanship and weight reduction and the standard mechanicals are more than capable of producing very brisk progress. Unlike our Retro and Classic series, The PS Spyder was not conceived as a car to build in numbers, more as a one-off to scratch an itch that Paul has always had and as a showpiece to display the quality of workmanship and attention to detail that PS turns out. The car is to to be featured in the press over the coming months and will be available to purchase in early 2012, complete with our 3 year / 60,000 mile warranty (UK only).
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on a side note, just built my new PC rig this morning with the new HAswell i7 4770K and some choice bits. sweet :)
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Well I'm back from spa! The little Spyder did great! Rear end is so planted you can carry alot of speed though the fast corners Front end needs more camber toe out and sticky track tyres that don't melt away :/ There's a few vids on YouTube, I'll link you guys to Welcome white Spyder I can feel a local meet on the cards soon if your only in Surrey!
 
ORIGINAL: Fire_2 Well I'm back from spa! The little Spyder did great! Rear end is so planted you can carry alot of speed though the fast corners Front end needs more camber toe out and sticky track tyres that don't melt away :/ There's a few vids on YouTube, I'll link you guys to Welcome white Spyder I can feel a local meet on the cards soon if your only in Surrey!
Welcome back Glad to hear you had fun with the Spyder was it fair weather for you and did you feel the need for even more bhp once on track[;)] Links to the tube appreciated
 
ORIGINAL: Fire_2 Well I'm back from spa! The little Spyder did great! Rear end is so planted you can carry alot of speed though the fast corners Front end needs more camber toe out and sticky track tyres that don't melt away :/ There's a few vids on YouTube, I'll link you guys to Welcome white Spyder I can feel a local meet on the cards soon if your only in Surrey!
Now comes the choice , how far do you go to make it better on track vs not killing it's on road use :)
 
The extra 100bhp in the GT3RS does make quite a bit quicker down the back straight, so yeah alittle more wouldn't go a miss (say 350bhp like the 991) I removed the roof and extra weight in the front (tyre kit) Might of even had more front end grip with a full tank? anyone else noticed this? anyhow some links for you guys! [link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdNIHZLJdnw]GoPro Head Cam footage[/link] [link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZWlgNQXD7I]Trying to keep up with an ATOM[/link] [link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxhZXat0rYA]Keeping up with a set up E46, Stripped Track tyres ect[/link] [link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9v3TwFxzCo]and a friends Integra DC5 Race Car[/link]
 
ORIGINAL: Fire_2 The extra 100bhp in the GT3RS does make quite a bit quicker down the back straight, so yeah alittle more wouldn't go a miss (say 350bhp like the 991) I removed the roof and extra weight in the front (tyre kit) Might of even had more front end grip with a full tank? anyone else noticed this? anyhow some links for you guys! [link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdNIHZLJdnw]GoPro Head Cam footage[/link] [link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZWlgNQXD7I]Trying to keep up with an ATOM[/link] [link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxhZXat0rYA]Keeping up with a set up E46, Stripped Track tyres ect[/link] [link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9v3TwFxzCo]and a friends Integra DC5 Race Car[/link]
That's the line through Eau Rouge I like, all four wheels to the left of the rumble strip.
 
ORIGINAL: daro911 19/06/13 Spydermen we are down to just 3 cars at an OPC Leeds Black London White Byfleet Silver
4 actually Edinburgh has just taken one in not on the web site yet . Was notified by the Sales manager to see if anyone was looking for one . Black .10 Jan 11 6974 .PDK Sat Nav . Buckets .Spyder Factory Black Wheels. Red dials .No other info and yes the price £41850
 
That PS Spyder looks good in all but the proportion of the rear deck relative to the rest of the rear dimensions, from the side. Good find and an interesting read. I wonder why Porsche uses the name Speedster instead of Spyder for an open 911. No doubt there'll be some logic behind it[8|]
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Welcome onboard White Spyder, the best colour[;)] What were your 'must have' options when you were hunting? Look forward to some pics, first impressions & more comparisons to the Lotuses to add to MrDemon's. No pressure then[:)] My car doesn't have the spoiler lift button so I guess at some point during the production run they realised they could save more weight[:D] Looking forward to watching your videos fire2 when I'm not on a train on my phone. I don't have the urge to take my Spyder back on track; after a few outings I feel I've got that out of my system but the thought of driving a famous circuit is making me change my mind[:-]
 
Daro, there's almost too many of us to keep count now[:eek:] I think there was... 3 founder members of the Spyder forum 4 members who followed up with a purchase 4 members who joined already with a Spyder in their stable 1 member who has moved to a Ferrari F430 Spider Does that sound about right? Oh and... A handful of members who we hope to convert[:)] Countess other members who are keeping quiet & just waiting for the right car before breaking cover[;)] We should list all the owners with photo's when James gets his car
 
ORIGINAL: flat6 Daro, there's almost too many of us to keep count now[:eek:] I think there was... 3 founder members of the Spyder forum 4 members who followed up with a purchase 4 members who joined already with a Spyder in their stable 1 member who has moved to a Ferrari F430 Spider Does that sound about right? Oh and... A handful of members who we hope to convert[:)] Countess other members who are keeping quiet & just waiting for the right car before breaking cover[;)] We should list all the owners with photo's when James gets his car
Excellent summary and I think you are bang on the money flat6 Have a friend selling his 997.Gen2 and contemplating a 993 Cabrio or future classic 987 Spyder[;)] Jury is out deciding currently[:D]
 
ORIGINAL: daro911
ORIGINAL: flat6 oops 5 members who joined already with a Spyder in their stable
Have a friend selling his 997.Gen2 and contemplating a 993 Cabrio or future classic 987 Spyder[;)]   Jury is out deciding currently[:D] 
Will be interesting see which one he chooses and why...
 
ORIGINAL: flat6 I wonder why Porsche uses the name Speedster instead of Spyder for an open 911. No doubt there'll be some logic behind it[8|]
I think Spyder is used for mid-engined cars (originally the 550) and Speedster is for rear-engined cars (the 356).
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ORIGINAL: homerdog
ORIGINAL: flat6 I wonder why Porsche uses the name Speedster instead of Spyder for an open 911. No doubt there'll be some logic behind it[8|]
I think Spyder is used for mid-engined cars (originally the 550) and Speedster is for rear-engined cars (the 356).
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As an ex Speedster owner and now a Spyder owner I can second that [;)] Just a shame Porsche chose to use that Boxster Spyder tag previously on a model that wasn't in the stripped back Spyder ethos[&o]
 

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