Where did that photo come from .no idea who took it ?? One thing i do know it was taken on Sunday the 2nd June at Thirlstaine Classic show in the borders town of Lauder ..And how do i know all this!! because it is the only sunny day we have had in Scotland this year when you can take the hood down..[ORIGINAL: flat6That looks very tidy. SK11NZZ can be proud of himself[ORIGINAL: daro911 Here is a very nice angle [] Anyone from here [
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That was my fault. I took someone with me. I also wasn't expected to be accompanied by a 'Driving Consultant' because on the phone, they asked if I wanted one I said "No". But maybe I didn't look worthy to be let out in a precious 911 so they decided to thrust one on me[&:][
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Meh - yours looked better resting with some temporary patina at the Groes Inn [
]Price drop on the Byfleet car. As I was saying, the ones that have hung around a while and don't have a spec to stand out from the crowd, will be the ones to shrewdly consider. With leather, PSE and Sport Chrono, it should appeal to someone using their head to benefit their pocket. Silver isn't my favourite colour but then it's not me buying it. Use the wheels as leverage to get some more off or get them swapped[
] Porsche Boxster Spyder, £ 36,995 With 2 Years of Porsche Approved Warranty Transmission: Manual Colour (interior): Black leather interior with sport seats Location of the car: Porsche Service Centre Byfleet Vehicle Ident Number: WP0ZZZ98ZBS740107 Mileage: 14,075 m Registration Year: 03/10 Price: £ 36,995 Equipment 19-inch Carrera S II wheel 6-speed manual transmission Cruise control Floor mats Fully automatic climate control Heated seats Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module Porsche crest embossed on head restraints Sound Package Plus including CD storage Sport Chrono Package Plus Sports exhaust system Sports seats Steering column casing leather Sun visors leather Telephone module for PCM Universal audio interface Wheel centre set
To be fair this is a very heavy spec car with below average miles for age and a very fair price considering the car has 2 years warranty so even with the wrong wheels there surely must be someone out there getting tempted[&o]ORIGINAL: flat6 Price drop on the Byfleet car. As I was saying, the ones that have hung around a while and don't have a spec to stand out from the crowd, will be the ones to shrewdly consider. With leather, PSE and Sport Chrono, it should appeal to someone using their head to benefit their pocket. Silver isn't my favourite colour but then it's not me buying it. Use the wheels as leverage to get some more off or get them swapped[
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Heavy Spec looking for Lightweight owner[8|]ORIGINAL: daro911To be fair this is a very heavy spec car with below average miles for age and a very fair price considering the car has 2 years warranty so even with the wrong wheels there surely must be someone out there getting tempted[&o]ORIGINAL: flat6 Price drop on the Byfleet car. As I was saying, the ones that have hung around a while and don't have a spec to stand out from the crowd, will be the ones to shrewdly consider. With leather, PSE and Sport Chrono, it should appeal to someone using their head to benefit their pocket. Silver isn't my favourite colour but then it's not me buying it. Use the wheels as leverage to get some more off or get them swapped[
Exactly. It's easy to overlook it but it has a number of things that are must have's for some and aren't easy to retro-fit, such as PCM with Nav and Climate (yep I know they're heavy but some want them). It should go at this price, like you say robK, with the warranty and all. How many more Spyders do you think are going to changing hands over the coming year until they all end up as longish-term keepers? Given that there's 14 on the market and it's a different 10-15 cars for sale each month since this thread began, perhaps over half of the 237 UK cars have changed hands after first owners have completed finance deals or realised the roof is manual or whatever. Probably another year of that to go. Yes there'll always be cars on the market but the hope is that the supply dries up as the majority end up in the hands of dedicated enthusiasts of the model.ORIGINAL: daro911 To be fair this is a very heavy spec car with below average miles for age and a very fair price considering the car has 2 years warranty so even with the wrong wheels there surely must be someone out there getting tempted[&o]Â
Mr D I almost have that spec Spyder (+5 Boxsters previously) and if I discard all the kit my car has that I never wanted and never use i.e. sat nav, dimming mirrors, VTS, cup holders, and kept what I really enjoy PSE, short shift, sports chrono, full leather, painted hoops, heated seats although I really wanted the buckets the hot chairs wasn't a deal breaker are you saying I should have gone for a 6th BOXSTER! and forgone the dramatic looks, exclusivity, rarity etc because my car is a fat boy[&o] Having driven a similar spec fat boy that also had a set of heavy optional alloys and then jumped straight into a stripped bare car that did have a radio but also ceramics to lighten the load [ORIGINAL: MrDemon Get a nice Boxster with a nice roof if you wanted that spec lol. This is my issue, with out the wheels and buckets seats, I would take a cheaper normal Boxster. I am using mine less and less, and my R more and R :-( . Keeps the miles down though on a car 3.5 years old and still not 8k. If the spec is missing the real Spyder items, then a normal Boxster is the better car with a sweet roof. The weather is so off and on I don't take mine out;-( But this weekend looks like it's going to be very hot
] I could feel zero difference from the seat of my pants and the instructor with me confirmed he felt exactly the same .... YES against a stop watch and with a perfect lap of the PEC circuit he might shaved milliseconds but he said I would never achieve that The bottom line was the lowered centre of gravity, the sports chassis set up, the lighter alloy panels and no top heavy powered lined hood were the serious things that make a difference between a Spyder and a Boxster S not the removal of the radio, door handles or even the aircon So should I have bought a 6th Boxster S or my fat boy Spyder ..... I know the answer and I am sure you do too [] I hear you MrD and I think we agree that a white car with buckets and Spyder wheels and not too lardy on extra's is the best spec. The thing is, the buyers of cars go for various things that others think are absurd. For example, I personally think that buying a 4x4 offroad vehicle to solely drive on the road, is a kind of logic I can't compute. Big, slow, heavy, tall and therefore not the optimal road car ingredients (OK, a Cayenne turbo is fast, and no doubt drives pretty well, but if it was as low as a 911 and as light as a 911, and you don't do farm work, I know which one would give the better drive). But, i've no doubt Cayenne buyers have certain criteria that I don't see, and it's Porsche's best seller so, so many can't be wrong. They just buy cars for different reasons to me. So, I guess what i'm saying is, there'll be people who will want a Spyder for how it drives and/or how it looks but not care that the roof is manual, so it doesn't follow that if they want PCM or Climate then they want a Boxster. Maybe some drive their Spyder to Le Mans or want to lose themselves on Welsh mountain roads but would rather the PCM Nav module rather than a TomTom falling off the windscreen - and PCM really doesn't spoil the handling if you haven't got too many other extras to go with it. I know what you mean but there's a really varied bunch out there and I guess i'm one of them. I really wanted bucket seats but I wanted nothing but a Spyder and wanted to carry my son around, so thankfully, there are cars with sports seats. But i've openly made it clear what i'd prefer if the car was soley for it's intended design purpose. I guess there's many a buyer out there too who won't take the car beyond 4/10th of it's ability and wouldn't spot the difference between driving a heavyweight or lightweight example, and would notice more something that helped them get along with the car. Hey, we might actually see you selling first and keeping the R with the roof[ORIGINAL: MrDemon Get a nice Boxster with a nice roof if you wanted that spec lol. This is my issue, with out the wheels and buckets seats, I would take a cheaper normal Boxster. I am using mine less and less, and my R more and R :-( . Keeps the miles down though on a car 3.5 years old and still not 8k. If the spec is missing the real Spyder items, then a normal Boxster is the better car with a sweet roof. The weather is so off and on I don't take mine out;-( But this weekend looks like it's going to be very hot
], whilst we soldier on through another 10 years with the Spyder, making the biggest sacrifice of living with the manual roof in this UK climate - a bigger sacrifice than having a few kg of options. I think the biggest design factor from a weight saving perspective that enhances the Spyder's dynamics over a Boxster or even a Cayman R, is the roof - the amount of weight that is removed, and where it is removed i.e. high up in the car. All other things being equal, the Spyder roof, must account for the total weight saving over the R and that 20kg extra in the R is right up top in the roof and steel/glass tailgate. The Spyder just pulled me over from being a staunch coupe buyer, to not even considering the R given that the Spyder exists. But I can understand anyone who would choose the R for practicality. As I say, I know what you mean and i'm not disagreeing with you but there are so many shades of grey. The only thing I can't fathom is why someone would change from Spyder wheels AND pay money for that too, and I don't just mean dealers optioning on the turbo II wheel. For example, the turbo wheels were an extra £810 and I mean the old turbo wheels. All the alternative wheel options were at cost of varying amounts[&:] 
Andrew K sold his 996GT3RS for the first customer Spyder in the Uk back in February 2010. He loved his time with the GT3 but missed the wind in the hair experience enough to happily trade into a Spyder. 2 years later we met up and he said he had a lot more fun in the Spyder [8D] Looking forward to hearing your views in the near future Welcome to one of the best kept secret Porsche special in years[
] ORIGINAL: flat6Yeah you're right John, from the side, all the silver accents just works [ORIGINAL: jdpef356 The wheels do demonstrate how the silver outer line on the edge of the rims picks up the Script on a Black Spdyer - suits it I think[
Congrats and welcome Kenny[
] We were admiring your car but not for very long as it sold quickly[] Coming from a 997 GT3 RS you will no doubt have many an interesting comparison story to tell once you've had the Spyder a few weeks (or days![8D]). And also, what was the driver behind the change from one icon to another...
If it's any thing like 996gt3 sales the cars without buckets are lemons to sell, the saving grace was the 996 buckets which imo are nicer then this new design and not that expensive to buy, so cars with out only go for 1 or 2 k cheaper. I think , as I have said before, wrong main items on a Spyder might be very costly later in the cars life value wise. The rich spec and buy new and don't care, as they buy what they want, this changes after the cars get a lot Older. I am yet to time both my cars ( I have a vbox) but it will be interesting as the Spyder is ultra light and my r ultra heavy spec, but 10bhp more. I have a place I do my times to get the same results, and this will be done very very soon. We have seen just last week cars sell with the wrong wheels, but the buyer did buy Spyder wheels as part of the deal As for driving hard, my R feels better still, it has -0.2 more camber and the 14mm front wider track and it's better at speed than my Spyder. Now time again , I don't know yet if it's that slight camber increase or the wider front track which is making it better. I am gutted that -1 was all they could get on the Spyder. For a weekend fun car I would like front to be -1.6. Now I am used to the car more and pushing even more, I can get the R to still push in some area's. I am of course talking extreme tighter corner speeds now though and can be corrected with slight lift. Also over the limit with PSM off PSM is NOT fully off which is very very annoying. Again this is with my race maxx tyres on so extreme speeds and track only. I have never have PSM cut back in when turned off on the road though.]. This must be a wind up and I got suckered in
I am saying that silver car with those wheels also is not that great and if I wanted a car like that I would save a shed load of cash and get one with a normal roof. The way the Spyder drives is down to 2 major things, the slight geo change and the bespoke suspension. It's far cheaper to add Spyder shocks to a normal Boxster for about £1.5k and then it will drive the same. Infact loads of guys in the states are fitting R and Spyder shocks to their normal cars. As many have said the weight plays very little part in some people's eyes if you have speced all the weight back in, have normal wheels and sports seats. Lower c of g is not going to show and fitting a battery would save you more than the roof. Then if you have every extra, normal wheels and fat chairs , I don't see the point in having a shit roof. A white Boxster with Spyder wheel option, some side stripes and the available black pack would look better than that silver car. And 1.5k gets you the drive. Win win imo. so yes have a radio, AC cup holder etc, but the car needs the wheels, buckets and to be manual. All only my opinion of course.ORIGINAL: flat6 Are you honestly saying that if you wanted/needed sports seats, or were simply agnostic to the choice, or even felt that sport seats were common in a Boxster, you would honestly change the whole car to a Boxster? Are you honestly saying that you don't see the difference in how a Spyder drives as being a more influential factor over choosing between a Boxster and a Spyder, than whether the seats should influence a change in preference of the whole car. If you're feeling the differences of your geo changes and feel they're worthwhile, do you think you'd notice the difference between a Boxster and a Spyder set-up and feel they were worthwhile? Come onnnnnnnnnn[
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