Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

[flat6]

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[rob.kellock]

Grade A* Well done Flat6. Having done so well on the written assignment you can now progress to the practical examinations. See me. When it stops raining. [] You did however miss a picturesque side profile shot...

 

[daro911]

flat6 That was a mega assignment completed brilliantly lets hope you have even more up your sleeve for 2013 VERY well done nice selection indeed End of year tally:- OPC x 2 Spyders: OPC 981 x 94![]

 

[flat6]

Thanks guys[] I intend to be doing more practicals in my Spyder Rob. Evo triangle beckons when the weather improves[] Daro, I guess as long as OPC Spyders are not extinct your thread will somehow soldier on []

 

[jdpef356]

Well done flat 6 - what you might call a Spyder overload[] New Spyder to Market?[8|] http://www.porsche.com/all/uk/?glasgow

 

[flat6]

Thanks John Hadn't seen that new car. Nice spec. Almost tempted myself with the PDK[] Hopefully one will pop up to suit you in the New Year.[]

 

[ChrisW]

The plans for the models are as follows. The 991 GT3 will be the last 911 race car. The 2nd generation of the next Cayman i.e. the 982, will be developed to blend in some of the superior traction of the 911 with the mid-engined handling of the 982 platform to make the Cayman the prime option for racing. The 911 will continue to become more of a GT car, continuing to dominate the spaces in which Aston Martin's, Maserati's, Mercedes AMG's, Corvettes, Jaguars and Audi R8 operate. The new 960 mid-engined supercar that will sit above the 911 and below the 918, will take on the mid-engined supercars from Ferrari and Lamborghini. The 991 based Spyder will be introduced when the 991 GT3 retires to make way for the 982 race car. This is some years away. The 911 Spyder will use weight saving techiques from the last of the 991 generation GT3. Being a Spyder, it will be strictly a 2 seater and it will have a manual, detachable roof like the 987 Spyder. It will be a limited production model, expected to appeal to those who want a near GT3 type driving experience combined with open air fun. There will not be another Boxster Spyder as the Boxster will be focussed on a 'every day roadster' theme rather than exploring any niches, as that will be more successfully achieved through the 911. Now, there's no factual evidence behind this story.

Now that's a whole new conversation [] Great summary !!!!

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: ChrisW

The plans for the models are as follows. The 991 GT3 will be the last 911 race car. The 2nd generation of the next Cayman i.e. the 982, will be developed to blend in some of the superior traction of the 911 with the mid-engined handling of the 982 platform to make the Cayman the prime option for racing. The 911 will continue to become more of a GT car, continuing to dominate the spaces in which Aston Martin's, Maserati's, Mercedes AMG's, Corvettes, Jaguars and Audi R8 operate. The new 960 mid-engined supercar that will sit above the 911 and below the 918, will take on the mid-engined supercars from Ferrari and Lamborghini. The 991 based Spyder will be introduced when the 991 GT3 retires to make way for the 982 race car. This is some years away. The 911 Spyder will use weight saving techiques from the last of the 991 generation GT3. Being a Spyder, it will be strictly a 2 seater and it will have a manual, detachable roof like the 987 Spyder. It will be a limited production model, expected to appeal to those who want a near GT3 type driving experience combined with open air fun. There will not be another Boxster Spyder as the Boxster will be focussed on a 'every day roadster' theme rather than exploring any niches, as that will be more successfully achieved through the 911. Now, there's no factual evidence behind this story.

Now that's a whole new conversation [] Great summary !!!!

ORIGINAL: flat6

ORIGINAL: jdpef356 So the big question is. Will they make a Spyder version of the New Boxster?[8|]

I reckon Porsche don't even know yet for sure. If I had to guess it would be that they won't. The roof, as good as it is, obviously put off too many of the Boxster clientele, who obviously aren't the hardcore driving purists that Porsche thought they were[]. Porsche stuck their neck out producing a car that would usually be reserved for £140,000+ 911 limited edition exotica, and they got snubbed by their customers. If they don't do another manual roof, and the fact that the 981 makes more extensive use of aluminium, they won't be able to save much weight (purely a speculation). Maybe there'll be a Boxster 'R', with a few modifications to make it stand out and the best options, such as the coming 981 sport chassis. Like the 997 Carrera GTS, maybe they'll give it centre locks which "reduce rotating masses" (but are a pain to remove from what i've been told). My guess is that they'll make more effort with the Cayman R next time around. It doesn't have the roof issue and they really didn't put much effort into differentiating it this time around. They didn't even give it a uniquely revised front end like the Spyder (spoiler tips, lights). No disrespect to Cayman R owners. It's a brilliant car but they could've given it more of a motorsport flavour, being a coupe, even if it doesn't have a motorsport association like the GT3 RS. But neither does the GT2 any more.

Thanks ChrisW What do you reckon the future holds?[]

 

[daro911]

X Ray Spyder []

 

[jdpef356]

ORIGINAL: daro911 X Ray Spyder []

Has this one been ill? Big question is why did this Spyder require an X Ray?[]

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: jdpef356

ORIGINAL: daro911 X Ray Spyder []

Has this one been ill? Big question is why did this Spyder require an X Ray?[]

Not ill at all was given an X Ray to expose the secrets of it's yet to be "fully appreciated" success ...SIMPLES

 

[ChrisW]

I think Porsche have done an excellent job taming the tail happiness of the 911 and in that respect whilst cars get gently larger, the 911 remains relatively compact and lightweight. But more and more, it is a GT rather that a sports / racer. Porsche like the idea of the youthful Cayman, but the simple fact is that it is not a great seller. Porsche are now diversifying so widely, they are segmenting their opportunities and I am sure have been pleasantly surprised at the success they have had in Cayenne and Panamera areas --- assisted substantially by the reputation of the brand. I love the new designs --- a slightly more Chris Bangle look whilst BMW are leaving the flame designs behind -- and BMW are possibly losing their distinctiveness --- even if BMW engineering in terms of dynamics and economy is spot on. Leaving the way open for a top of the range Porsche hot hatch (£40k price point) --- but with respect of their sports cars, maybe their intentions are still to be seen in their series of racing cars ? Is there really room above the 911 and below the 918 for a car other than a "super 911" ? I think the proximity of the GT3 and the GT3 Cup (of which 2500 have been manufactured for racing) is a powerful clue. Me ? I love the Cayman R and the Boxster Spider ethos --- and whilst Lotus is now weak, Porsche low sales figures are surely an opportunity to grow and introduce a new customer base who might have bought a Lotus / TVR / BMW M1 / VW R32 / --- ? I would love to go for less weight and greater simplicity with unimpeachable quality, and attached race series ... but that already exists as Caterham Academy. But most people can't live with Caterhams ... so it would have to be the Porsche Golf !!

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: daro911 X Ray Spyder []

Good find! It looks like it's doing a burn-out too[]

 

[flat6]

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[jdpef356]

Another new Spyder on the market http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-current/porsche-boxster-spyder-2011-great-spec/992208

 

[flat6]

Hi John. It's cruel luck that your spec refuses to come up. One thing to note with this one is that the black wheels aren't factory painted. Take a look at mine above. The black colour would neither be to the edge nor inside the rim if it's done at the factory. I had read that if the full wheel is gloss painted then it's not optimal for the seal of the tyre to the rim but i don't know if that is true.

 

[daro911]

To All The Spydermen Past Present & Near Future []

 

[rob.kellock]

H A P P Y N E W Y E A R S P Y D E R L O V E R S! Who'd have thought we'd nearly make 9000 hits by the year end? After Flat6's epic piece of work, I thought it was about time we moved on to the practical session. I have a confession to make. Apologies for:- 1) An act of reckless spontaneity 2) Not taking any decent photos 3) Keeping the roof up 4) Getting my Spyder dirty and 5) Enjoying the best possible start to 2013! So, at 1am this morning, my (sober) neighbour and I agreed to get up for a borderline indecent 8am departure and do the Evo Triangle. Whilst all the revellers slept off their hangovers, joyous empty roads and barely any rain combined to provide an adrenaline hit that is hard to rival. We departed 3 minutes ahead of schedule and including a fuel stop, a couple of brief chats and a "comfort break" at the services, we covered 205 miles in (ahem) 3 hours and 20 minutes. Our route was (from junction 29) M6, M56, A494 to Ruthin, B5105 to the triangle: A5, A453, B4501, then back home via Ruthin the other way - A5, A494, M56, M6. If we even saw a dozen cars from Ruthin to Ruthin I'd be surprised. Much flashing of lights from a silver 996 cab - but he was going the other way, smiling and and waving so that was OK. Roads were wet and slippery in places so particular credit to Gerald's immaculate 1988 911 3.2 Carrera Supersport for keeping up! Flat6, I promise I'll tell you in advance next time []

 

[vitesse]

What a way to have a Happy New Year ,Rob-you Spyder pervert!--OK-so I'm jealous-but like the self control with the alcohol last night-hic![]

 

[rob.kellock]

Thanks Colin. Was sick of looking at the car and not using it!