philnotts99
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Needs buckets
Mine don't! Quite happy with mine as it is, money no object would add leather, PCCB and PCM3. Maybe white dials too. And short shift but I'm not fussed about any of it!ORIGINAL: VvrooomM Buckets are overrated they rattle...
I would think sports seats would add more to the drama Phil, that is if you like being thrown around the cabin. Blue car - ridiculous colour; useless seats; pointless luxuries; overweight. [] First vote for the more valuable launch spec. []ORIGINAL: philnotts99 Dont get me wrong, i do like sports seats, i have had them in all my other cars but for me and what the car is going to be used for ( weekend toy ) buckets will just add to the drama when i take it out. Phil
The Riviera Blue was PTS when Porsche opened that window literally for one week only and also possibly for the USA only. I think it was just 4 PTS cars in Riviera Blue: Solid Navy Blue: Speed Yellow & GreyORIGINAL: flat6 [] The Riviera (or Mexico?) Blue Spyder was PTS and it's the only one to have appeared on the interweb. PTS was available for a while but not throughout. Was PTS only available in the US?
Obviously you are going to say that as it's in your interests to do so. If you said it was a terrible car in that spec, that you would never buy a car without a radio and you fear for damaging your disks @ £3,500 to replace you'd be mad! It certainly didn't get snapped up as quickly as Mr D would like people to believe (or would wish) and it was certainly advertised for a lenghty period. Whether you paid £40k for it or not I don't know, but it was advertised for less. There is certainly a market for it, of course there is. It's just that very few cars were sold with that spec (in fact, given that yours and Mr D's car were both press cars, I wonder if anyone actually spec'd any like that from new), which suggests that it's not particularly attractive, ergo it's not going to be worth a premium (and it of course makes no difference to me whether it is or isn't). There is very little rhyme or reason to these cars when it comes price. Plenty of cars sold recently have sports seats and PDK boxes, and they have sold quickly and at good money. The only evident differentiator in asking prices is mileage. Don't for one moment think that I'm having a go at your car, because it is indeed a lightweight spec and I am sure that it is attractive to some. But equally don't swallow all Mr D's hyperbole which just so happens to verify his "spec". He cannot speak for "the market" (and the dealer who has sold the most used cars to "the market" has shown Mr D's views to be wide of the mark in reality).ORIGINAL: DarrellWilson Think you missed the point, it didn't sit around for four months it was withdrawn from the market before I persuaded them to sell. I'm in the camp that supports the theory that even if the market for the car with the lightweight spec is 'small', given it's what the Spyder concept was all about these will eventually command higher prices than the fully loaded versions (which no doubt will still be desirable) as there's a lot fewer around. Anyway let's stop speculating, let's just wait and see.  Â
Thanks daro, that grey metallic car was the other one in my mind but I think you've covered them all there [] What's your vote?ORIGINAL: daro911The Riviera Blue was PTS when Porsche opened that window literally for one week only and also possibly for the USA only. I think it was just 4 PTS cars in Riviera Blue: Solid Navy Blue: Speed Yellow & GreyORIGINAL: flat6 [] The Riviera (or Mexico?) Blue Spyder was PTS and it's the only one to have appeared on the interweb. PTS was available for a while but not throughout. Was PTS only available in the US?
Neither do mine rattle, and if you want an experiment we can put yours and mine on ebay and see which ones make the most [] Buckets are worth far more that sport seats and always will be. [:-]ORIGINAL: rob.kellockMine don't! Quite happy with mine as it is, money no object would add leather, PCCB and PCM3. Maybe white dials too. And short shift but I'm not fussed about any of it!ORIGINAL: VvrooomM Buckets are overrated they rattle...
I doubt he even knows you bought that car. to quote no interest was bullshit, todays market of cars shows what's sticking, be it spyders or R's as Clive will post , very hard to find cars with the main 3 and PSE.ORIGINAL: DarrellWilsonHow long ago was that? I bought mine in December, it had been previously advertised in September but the seller took it off the market as they had a change of heart. I was watching the market and no others in this spec came up hence why I went on the front foot and contacted the owner, lucky for me I persuaded them to let go of it. If you're going back before Sept last year I think we all know the market has firmed up on these cars, there was a sudden spike in demand after the Evo article on future classics featured the Spyder.ORIGINAL: billy1 In fact one of the cars that hang around the longest with no interest was the car like yours.....
I've seen another Riviera Spyder online, think it was German. My vote is for Riviera!ORIGINAL: flat6 [] The Riviera (or Mexico?) Blue Spyder was PTS and it's the only one to have appeared on the interweb.
Some fair and reasonable opinions in there but that's what they are and IMO it's a stretch of the imagination to say 'the only evident differentiator is the mileage' - as I said let's wait and see. Not sure I mentioned Mr D in any of my posts, you're getting my opinions and it's hardly surprising they are similar. Oh, and on price, I think even someone who didn't favour the lightweight spec would be happy with the price I paid.ORIGINAL: billy1Obviously you are going to say that as it's in your interests to do so. If you said it was a terrible car in that spec, that you would never buy a car without a radio and you fear for damaging your disks @ £3,500 to replace you'd be mad! It certainly didn't get snapped up as quickly as Mr D would like people to believe (or would wish) and it was certainly advertised for a lenghty period. Whether you paid £40k for it or not I don't know, but it was advertised for less. There is certainly a market for it, of course there is. It's just that very few cars were sold with that spec (in fact, given that yours and Mr D's car were both press cars, I wonder if anyone actually spec'd any like that from new), which suggests that it's not particularly attractive, ergo it's not going to be worth a premium (and it of course makes no difference to me whether it is or isn't). There is very little rhyme or reason to these cars when it comes price. Plenty of cars sold recently have sports seats and PDK boxes, and they have sold quickly and at good money. The only evident differentiator in asking prices is mileage. Don't for one moment think that I'm having a go at your car, because it is indeed a lightweight spec and I am sure that it is attractive to some. But equally don't swallow all Mr D's hyperbole which just so happens to verify his "spec". He cannot speak for "the market" (and the dealer who has sold the most used cars to "the market" has shown Mr D's views to be wide of the mark in reality).ORIGINAL: DarrellWilson Think you missed the point, it didn't sit around for four months it was withdrawn from the market before I persuaded them to sell. I'm in the camp that supports the theory that even if the market for the car with the lightweight spec is 'small', given it's what the Spyder concept was all about these will eventually command higher prices than the fully loaded versions (which no doubt will still be desirable) as there's a lot fewer around. Anyway let's stop speculating, let's just wait and see.
Cliff as an ex GT3 man and now proud owner of a Spyder Coupe what are your first impressions[]ORIGINAL: CLIFFWILKINS No rattle on my buckets either [8D]
Have to say there is some weight to that statement. If the only launch spec cars are press cars, not many, if any actual buyers agreed with how the car was marketed and decided to change it. (OK, lots of cars were spec'd by OPC's but how many of the cars that were spec'd by personal buyers were spec'd without a radio.) What was odd was that MrD's car was for sale with sports seats but he rightly got them changed to buckets. Sports seats with the spartan spec is an odd combination, but someone thought it was alright. I think we're at 5 votes for the blue car and 1 for the launch spec car. Staying true to Porsche's brochure isn't looking like the stronger investment[]ORIGINAL: billy1 There is certainly a market for it [launch spec], of course there is. It's just that very few cars were sold with that spec (in fact, given that yours and Mr D's car were both press cars, I wonder if anyone actually spec'd any like that from new), which suggests that it's not particularly attractive, ergo it's not going to be worth a premium (and it of course makes no difference to me whether it is or isn't).
There were plenty of cars with manual, buckets seats and Spyder wheels. Not at all rare. But if you take the radio out, you can add £5K[8D]ORIGINAL: MrDemon manual, with buckets seats and Spyder wheels.
That's right, they are only opinions - but it's interesting that those who go on about 'spec' and 'future values' all the time seem to be the same old posters. It does get very tedious...ORIGINAL: DarrellWilson Some fair and reasonable opinions in there but that's what they are and IMOÂ it's a stretch of the imagination to say 'the only evident differentiator is the mileage' - as I said let's wait and see.
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