Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

[tyinsky]

I knew that one. Wasn't really bothered by all the paper stats. Still no idea now what the 0-60 is or the top speed. Although do know it will be 5-something and 160-something. Fast enough. Already owned a Boxster in the past so knew roughly what it would drive like. Bought it on the looks and colour mostly.

 

[daro911]

Time for a FRIENDLY debate Spydermen We have had the wrong chairs wheels gears debate forever and a day so my question is simply this:- How many Spyders would have been sold had Porsche gone the 997 Speedster route and offered just one specification and 3 colours White/Black/Red So the 987 Spyder would have been the base car with only performance options offered at extra cost PSE: Sports Chrono: PCCB UK sales were 237 cars according to an email I have from PCGB although 4 years later there are under 200 cars listed on the How Many Left! I would guess had their been one back to basics spec only as per Mr D's dream machine, sales may have been in the low teens (ignoring 34 forced registered demo cars) and residuals today would be another debate for another day[]

 

[flat6]

New page new pic[]

 

[DarrellWilson]

5 Spyders at Prescott Hillclimb this morning. Photos to follow. Someone might beat me to it as I will have to remind myself of the process.

 

[kenneth ritchie]

ORIGINAL: daro911

ORIGINAL: kenneth ritchie So I am now Spyderless which is sad as they are fantastic cars and I enjoyed every minute with mine and my last three 911's. However, I am now a Spiderman of a slightly different breed, I have achieved my ambition of the last 30 years by finally scratching the Ferrari itch and becoming the owner yesterday of an immaculate condition Ferrari F430 Spider (F1), Rosso Red and Cream interior. Spent all day today getting it up to my usual standard. For the time being I am very pleased. Kenny Spyder, or should it now be Kenny SPIDER

Congratulations Kenny great choice and look forward to hearing your views on the F1 single clutch V the PDK twin. Plus of course the pros and cons of Spyder vSpider SpIder pictures welcome on here too[]

Daro911 I have emailed to some pictures if you are able to load them on as you know my IT s kills are very limited, still much cleaning work to be done Thanks Kenny Spider

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: daro911 Time for a FRIENDLY debate Spydermen We have had the wrong chairs wheels gears debate forever and a day so my question is simply this:- How many Spyders would have been sold had Porsche gone the 997 Speedster route and offered just one specification and 3 colours White/Black/Red So the 987 Spyder would have been the base car with only performance options offered at extra cost PSE: Sports Chrono: PCCB UK sales were 237 cars according to an email I have from PCGB although 4 years later there are under 200 cars listed on the How Many Left! I would guess had their been one back to basics spec only as per Mr D's dream machine, sales may have been in the low teens (ignoring 34 forced registered demo cars) and residuals today would be another debate for another day[]

I guess it depends whether you fall into the camp that it is predominantly a road car or whether it is a road and track car. It doesn't have an engine designed for track use. The manual says not to put sticky tyres on otherwise the cornering forces may starve the engine of oil. All that business about not enough oil scavenger pumps. Porsche didn't publish a Nurburgring lap time for it, which is usually part of their marketing machine for track focussed cars. So, for me, predominantly it's a road car. Personally I wouldn't be bothered about air conditioning and heated seats, though these do seem to be attractive to some and therefore a consideration for re-sale. I think the bucket seats are very comfortable and may not have put too many people off. So if the car was only available with buckets, manual, no radio with options of only PSE, Sport Chrono and PCCB how would it have sold. Hmmm. That's a tough one, so I will merely speculate (a little jovially, so don't take me too seriously). The car didn't sell well with all the options flexibility that it had. Many people who were interested decided they could not live without a motorised roof. Where were all the people man enough to buy a car with a manual roof and the spec you describe? They didn't put their hand in their pocket and buy one. Those with money didn't want a manual roof and those who wanted one weren't willing to stump up the cash and instead waited until they hit the used market. Dealers often had to spec their own allocations. If it wasn't for them you'd probably have very few cars with buckets because the private buyers spec'd sports seats[8D], well, some of them would have[]. I guess some dealers spec'd sports seats and turbo II wheels in order make the car a bit more 'familiar' to their typical Boxster clientele. But ultimately the car didn't reach notoriety until the used car buyers got hold of it. I think we only have a couple of Spydermen among us who bought one new, Rob Kellock being one and I can't remember who the other(s) is. So I reckon Porsche would have sold less than 200 in the UK if the car's spec was restricted, which is a shame really as the car is a great ambassador for the design ethos it follows and should have been recognised as a great driver's car with minimum spec. We did run a poll a few hundred pages back about what people would spec on their car if they could only pick 5 options. If I was to reduce that to 3, it would be leather, Sport Chrono and the third would either be PDK or PCCB. Not sure which! If we get a 981 Spyder I think we only have the used car buyers to thank for how they've raised the profile of the car. I don't see much incentive in Porsche doing it again solely from how the new Spyder sales sluggishly kicked off. But that was partly their fault for keeping the Boxster and Cayman in the shadow of the 911 and aiming it at primarily a certain type of buyer and then expecting the existing new car Boxster buyer to get this raw version. Let's see how many 981 GTS get spec'd lightly when we see them on the used market. I expect you'll struggle to find one with buckets, manual 'box and the passive sports chassis (though to be fair it wasn't marketed in that way).

 

[MrDemon]

5 Spyder at the hill climb shows what the car is made for. Enthusiasts who want a competitive car at the week ends and fun car every where else. The rest of the fat options are for the over 50.'s , if it were PDK only I would have bought a Exige 260cup. Clearly two types of owners who will never see eye to eye. So why keep bringing it up ?

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: kenneth ritchie Daro911 I have emailed to some pictures if you are able to load them on as you know my IT s kills are very limited, still much cleaning work to be done Thanks Kenny Spider

Kenny's new SpIder[8D] Very nice and look forward to a full report Mr K

 

[DarrellWilson]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon 5 Spyder at the hill climb shows what the car is made for.

Nothing too competitive, we only parked in the car park []

 

[ted walker]

But there were 5 of us and 6 owners, Looking forward to the photos.

 

[Dylan1]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon 5 Spyder at the hill climb shows what the car is made for. Enthusiasts who want a competitive car at the week ends and fun car every where else. The rest of the fat options are for the over 50.'s , if it were PDK only I would have bought a Exige 260cup. Clearly two types of owners who will never see eye to eye. So why keep bringing it up ?

Fangio was over 50 when he was world champion .sometimes experience brings with it extra speed !! Richard attwood took me around silverstone when he was 70 and I suspect he would give you a good run for your money []he loves the PDK!!

 

[homerdog]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon it takes both side to shut up

Deal, I promise never to mention PDK again!

 

[homerdog]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon The rest of the fat options are for the over 50.'s , if it were PDK only I would have bought a Exige 260cup.

Bloody hell, I should have read the next page before I replied, you couldn't even last that long! BTW, I'm over 50, but let me know if you ever want an arm wrestle shrimpy!

 

[Mayhem911]

ORIGINAL: homerdog

ORIGINAL: MrDemon The rest of the fat options are for the over 50.'s , if it were PDK only I would have bought a Exige 260cup.

Bloody hell, I should have read the next page before I replied, you couldn't even last that long! BTW, I'm over 50, but let me know if you ever want an arm wrestle shrimpy!

He cant help himself!!

 

[jdpef356]

Just to change the subject - I see you Mayhem have listed that you own not only Spyder but at Boxster Anniversary. What other Porsche Cars do you Spyder guys own?

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: ted walker But there were 5 of us and 6 owners, Looking forward to the photos.

Pictures supplied by Mayhem911[8D] Is it a record 5 Spyder! Ted Walker, Matt Hole, Darryl, Spyderlite and Mayhem

 

[flat6]

Kenny the Fezza looks great! Congrats again[] Don't let JCT600 take liberties and remove their sticker from obscuring the stunning engine display[]

 

[Dylan1]

God that looks good[]

 

[flat6]

5 Spyders together must be UK record at least! The silver one with red interior must be very rare in the UK.

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: flat6 5 Spyders together must be UK record at least!

Now the challenge has to be Six Spyders []