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ORIGINAL: Tracy Wilkins Fair point about shocks maybe. Clutch not needed its a pdk [;)]
o yes , as it's sealed unit you will need a whole new gearbox at 100k so the cars close to 1/2 way though it's life cycle already !!!! sort of joking but there is a point hidden in there some where, one day it will wear out and it's going to cost a lot. sort of ruins the PDK Spyder being a classic in 20 years time......... could end up being a lemon....with high miles cars needing a full new gearbox and PDK unit.
 
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ORIGINAL: Tracy Wilkins Fair point about shocks maybe. Clutch not needed its a pdk [;)]
o yes , as it's sealed unit you will need a whole new gearbox at 100k so the cars close to 1/2 way though it's life cycle already !!!! sort of joking but there is a point hidden in there some where, one day it will wear out and it's going to cost a lot. sort of ruins the PDK Spyder being a classic in 20 years time......... could end up being a lemon....with high miles cars needing a full new gearbox and PDK unit.
Porsche say gearbox and clutches will last the lifetime of the car whatever that means exactly. 20 years from now when the cars are worth circa £80k[:D] if the box needed work, which according to Porsche it shouldn't do, it will be a small price to pay in the bigger picture of things
 
Like everything in life it eventually wears out. [:D][:D] But as said if only a 2nd or 3 rd car doing a couple of k a year it may suit someone it may even be caught up buy higher users.[;)] Obviously if its to be a one Porsche of the household one would go for the lowest mileage and best spec possible money no object.
 
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ORIGINAL: Tracy Wilkins Fair point about shocks maybe. Clutch not needed its a pdk [;)]
o yes , as it's sealed unit you will need a whole new gearbox at 100k so the cars close to 1/2 way though it's life cycle already !!!! sort of joking but there is a point hidden in there some where, one day it will wear out and it's going to cost a lot. sort of ruins the PDK Spyder being a classic in 20 years time......... could end up being a lemon....with high miles cars needing a full new gearbox and PDK unit.
Bit like those costly ceramic brake discs I suppose - what's that, £15k to replace? I bet PDK boxes will last longer than ceramic rotors.....
 
ORIGINAL: Tracy Wilkins Like everything in life it eventually wears out. [:D][:D] But as said if only a 2nd or 3 rd car doing a couple of k a year it may suit someone it may even be caught up buy higher users.[;)] Obviously if its to be a one Porsche of the household one would go for the lowest mileage and best spec possible money no object.
If you want to use a car, getting a high mileage, cheaper, car makes perfect sense. As for the cars being dead by 30 or 40 or even 60k - what a joke. Sure, some bits will need replacing, but even if the cars do very few miles that will happen eventually. Might as well get some pleasure from the £ spent.
 
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ORIGINAL: MrDemon
ORIGINAL: Tracy Wilkins Fair point about shocks maybe. Clutch not needed its a pdk [;)]
o yes , as it's sealed unit you will need a whole new gearbox at 100k so the cars close to 1/2 way though it's life cycle already !!!! sort of joking but there is a point hidden in there some where, one day it will wear out and it's going to cost a lot. sort of ruins the PDK Spyder being a classic in 20 years time......... could end up being a lemon....with high miles cars needing a full new gearbox and PDK unit.
Bit like those costly ceramic brake discs I suppose - what's that, £15k to replace? I bet PDK boxes will last longer than ceramic rotors.....
when the Ceramics wear out I'll fit Brembo race disks for £1800, when the PDK wears out you are looking at a big spend, life time of car is said to be 100k miles. hence classic's with PDK could become a big cost issue, ie a new sealed gearbox and PDK unit, I can get a set of ceramic's under 10k (5k real cost to me, company car, VAT and TAX back) but would fit the Brembo's. 10x sets of steels would be what 7k which would last the same as the 2x sets of PCCB's life cycle so 3k extra on the PCCB's , It's a non issue.
 
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ORIGINAL: Tracy Wilkins Like everything in life it eventually wears out. [:D][:D] But as said if only a 2nd or 3 rd car doing a couple of k a year it may suit someone it may even be caught up buy higher users.[;)] Obviously if its to be a one Porsche of the household one would go for the lowest mileage and best spec possible money no object.
If you want to use a car, getting a high mileage, cheaper, car makes perfect sense. As for the cars being dead by 30 or 40 or even 60k - what a joke. Sure, some bits will need replacing, but even if the cars do very few miles that will happen eventually. Might as well get some pleasure from the £ spent.
who is talking dead ? you have never done a refresh on a 60k miles Porsche then ? my 27k mile GT3 took a 12k refresh, you have to think about this when buying higher miles cars as you don't get 12k back when you try and sell it on. a 60k miles GT3 would eat over 18k easy on a refresh. I think my mates 67 short wheel base has cost him about 60k to refresh lol but as the older cars have gone mental he is still £££ in on a >200k car now. I dare not think the cost to refresh a 991 GT3 after it's done 100k miles way to much tech to all go tits up.
 
this is all getting a bit weird... as far as I know, these cars are pretty bullet proof in any format...
 
ORIGINAL: Siy this is all getting a bit weird... as far as I know, these cars are pretty bullet proof in any format...
It's only a Boxster, no-one's taking it to the moon or anything. I'm sure around the 'Ring it might make a few tenths difference to have brand new suspension but who cares about that? No wonder dealers make so much money if they can persuade people that a 60k car needs a full "refresh".
 
ORIGINAL: Rocket Man I would appreciate a copy of those instructions if you can put you hand on them. If you could email them to me at. socarco@hotmail.co.uk Good luck with your car sale, that Weiss gold looks realy nice on your car. As for prices being less during winter, i bought my car at christmas withtout seeing it and payed over 40 for it and withh no regrets. They are realy super cars.
ORIGINAL: Siy Yup - I had it done to mine - eporsch in Chobham did it for me - I supplied them with the fitting diagrams which Porsche Byfleet got for me - I still have a copy of them somewhere - let me know if you want me to dig them out for you?
I have emailed these to you - let me know if you don't receive them Simon
 
gearbox and PDK unit is 6k so not that bad if it lasts 150k miles, makes having to buy 20 pad dampers at £10 each seem much more expensive. I doubt a Spyder diff will last you 60k miles and the shocks are well past their best at 60k people can refresh when they want though, not forcing anyone, just a 60k car is not always what it seems.
 
ORIGINAL: Siy this is all getting a bit weird... as far as I know, these cars are pretty bullet proof in any format...
to be fare your car has done 1.2k miles PA for a 5k total it's not a 60k miles car :) So nothing weird about it, parts wear out, you have to buy new parts, !! a 10 year old GT3 wil need all the below, why is that weird ? all the same will be needed on a Spyder, throw in a major service at the same time and you could be in for 20k if NOTHING has been done before. some of that lot won't even last till 60k , plus other bits like steering racks and I am sure other items I have missed out. front rads Coil packs Exhaust system (rots though at corners) clutch Diff (made of butter) damper rebuild new top mounts new bushes new disks Pads tyres ARB links
 
ORIGINAL: clubsport Wait until the end of summer, they have jumped £8-10k since last winter, there were very few buyers last winter with some cars hanging around for months.....I'm not saying prices are likely to fall all the way back, but there is definitely a seasonality with cars of this type. Anyone needing to sell over the Nov- Feb period, may find it harder to sell than they would this week! If you are going "modern", it's worth considering the PDK, you can effectively drive it as a manual, just shifting the levers up or down, it has 7 gears which almost feels too many at times, with the sports exhaust it makes a decent noise.
The Spyder has been too exclusive and sought after to suffer seasonal variation for the last couple of years. Some buyers have had to wait quite a while for the right car to turn up and so they buy whenever it does.
 
Nice theory......but I do recall cars being a little cheaper earlier in the year (excel pricing and ads from the time)....don't forget, Spyder prices have mostly fallen (as you would expect) from new and bounced a little from what could now (in hindsight) be seen as a low! You also need to consider some owners don't necessarily have the enthusiasm and knowledge of most on here, if they are selling most dealers will pay book.....I would expect Spyders to trade mostly over book, partly based on the scarcity of transactions. Also, with low rates and recent all time highs in stock markets, desirable sports and classic cars have performed reasonably well. I am a fan of The Spyder, I do however find some of the pricing comments amusing, if you were that interested in appreciation you could have bought an aircooled car, maybe even an RS [;)]
 

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