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Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

quote "Porsche Boxster GTS range-topper is superb to drive, but is it worth premium over Boxster S? " it's still the same car as one which came out 2 years ago though and we all know the Caymans a better drive. the mags only love it due to the x73 sus which most of the press cars have and most have PCCB. the issues here are 98% of owners don't have the x73 pack or the PCCB, !! As for Bhp its still lacking the 330BHp the Cayman R has ! and who wants smoked rear lights and red dials !!! Yes you would buy one over a normal S due to resale, but you can build a nicer S for less money ! so Porsche did not tamper with it at all, it's a parts bin car like the S sports was and the RS60 was. Not sure why the hype on the GTS car
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This might sound daft, but always having had manuals to this point I have to ask - when it's in PDK manual mode does it stay and hold manual mode ? Reason I ask is I test drove a few weeks back an S4 convertible (didn't like it at all, way too soft and cruiser like, but my wife insisted we try it as she likes them...) with S tronic or whatever it's called, but even when the Sales guy said its in manual it would sporadically change up for me, which would drive me mad. I know they need to change down if you go from 70 to standstill and don't paddle down, but surely accelerating they remain in the manual gear you have chosen ?
 
ORIGINAL: C2MTH This might sound daft, but always having had manuals to this point I have to ask - when it's in PDK manual mode does it stay and hold manual mode ? Reason I ask is I test drove a few weeks back an S4 convertible (didn't like it at all, way too soft and cruiser like, but my wife insisted we try it as she likes them...) with S tronic or whatever it's called, but even when the Sales guy said its in manual it would sporadically change up for me, which would drive me mad. I know they need to change down if you go from 70 to standstill and don't paddle down, but surely accelerating they remain in the manual gear you have chosen ?
I have only ever driven manuals and have a passionate dislike of auto's because I like to use the gears for slowing (very old school style no longer taught these days) and total control when cornering etc. When an opportunity presented itself to buy my current Spyder the only downside was the PDK[:-]which I had only ever experienced under all the wrong conditions when having a demo run and not driving in ones usual style of business at all So I took a 900 mile PDK Spyder for 3 test drives totalling 110 miles by the end of which I was totally sold I "never" drive in anything than manual mode and have 100% control of all changes all of the time. However you can in manual mode activate the kick down by literally burying your foot into the carpet. The kick down switch is a definite push more beyond what you think was the floor if that makes sense so is not accidentally operated unless you give that distinct extra shove on the throttle something that has never happened to me to date and I have remained 100% in control of every gear shift The main downside is the ease of which one can "speed" along the upside you can concentrate much more on your lines and overall road craft but the bottom line is a totally new driving fun experience can be had by flapping paddles
 
ORIGINAL: daro911 Porsche will have their work cut out for them to take the 981 Spyder to the next level to justify the 10% premium its bound to carry over the GTS Porsche Boxster GTS range-topper is superb to drive, but is it worth premium over Boxster S? Verdict 5/5 It takes guts to tamper with an already-perfect recipe, but Porsche has done just that with the Boxster – and improved it. While the tweaks are minor, they make the Porsche Boxster GTS one of the most capable and engaging cars you can buy. You can go faster for less, but you won’t want to. Porsche is attempting to build on the already flawless package that is the Boxster S by subjecting the roadster to the racy GTS treatment. It’s now the most powerful Boxster you can buy and we’ve tested it on UK roads. Based on the Boxster S, Porsche has extracted a further 15bhp and 10Nm of torque from the 3.4-litre flat-six engine, with power now standing at a healthy 326bhp. It also sits lower to the ground by 20mm, while smoked lamp clusters and 20-inch arch-filling alloy wheels have also been added. If we’re honest the incremental power hike isn’t immediately obvious, but power delivery is flawlessly linear with maximum grunt at 6,700rpm. There’s a throaty snarl from the standard-fit sports exhaust – usually a £1,530 option – and the harder you push it through the rev range the deeper the bellow, with crackling pops and bangs when you lift off the throttle. But the added goodies don’t stop there. Porsche also chucks in the PASM adaptive dampers as standard – usually £971. Switch them to Sport or Sport Plus and the Boxster sharpens up around the edges, while the roadster’s appetite for corners is heightened. Porsche Boxster GTS rear You can crack 0-62mph in 5 seconds flat, which could be considered as rather leisurely for a powerful sports car these days. But the Boxster is about so much more than outright performance. It’s incredibly agile and precise on the road, which does mean it can be tricky to detect the active engine mounts at work, which are part of the Sport Chrono pack – a £1,085 option on any other Boxster. The mid-mounted engine already gives the car perfect balance, so it never feels unsettled, allowing you to make the most of all 326bhp. For a car which is so focused and direct, the ride is still fairly forgiving even with the standard 20-inch alloys. Porsche Boxster GTS seats Part of this car’s infectious character is in the standard six-speed manual gearbox. Changes are short, crisp and precise, with downshifts accompanied by a blip from the throttle – there isn’t a more satisfying manual gearbox available in any sports car. Yet, Porsche’s equally capable seven-speed PDK auto is available as a £2,351 option. Even with all of the additions, the Boxster GTS is just £5,844 more than the standard S, which is less than you’d pay if you were to spec up a Boxster S to GTS levels of kit. Better still, it’s still around £30,000 less than an entry-level 911 Cabriolet, which only gets a fraction more power. Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/boxster/87065/porsche-boxster-gts-review#ixzz3EmZJwhgr
I reckon a large element of what makes the 987 Spyder a brilliant drive and handle like its on rails is the the revised suspension. So good was it that the Sport Chassis option was introduced on the 981 very early and I struggle to see how they will make the 981 Spyder signifcantly different to drive compared to a 981S or GTS X73 Sport Chassis. Will be interesting to see what they come up with.
 
ORIGINAL: flat6 I reckon a large element of what makes the 987 Spyder a brilliant drive and handle like its on rails is the the revised suspension. So good was it that the Sport Chassis option was introduced on the 981 very early and I struggle to see how they will make the 981 Spyder signifcantly different to drive compared to a 981S or GTS X73 Sport Chassis. Will be interesting to see what they come up with.
More weight savings from roof, bucket seats, ali rear deck, fixed rear wing, no radio, no air, extra BHP, smaller petrol tank, lighter alloys and go faster stripes[:D] just for starters
 
Yes the weight saving will be a big contrubutor (though the doors are already aluminum) and certainly the unique look, but the suspension I think is a big part of the drive. They might throw in another enhancement that wasn't done with the 987. Or maybe strictly limit production numbers.
 
ORIGINAL: C2MTH This might sound daft, but always having had manuals to this point I have to ask - when it's in PDK manual mode does it stay and hold manual mode ? Reason I ask is I test drove a few weeks back an S4 convertible (didn't like it at all, way too soft and cruiser like, but my wife insisted we try it as she likes them...) with S tronic or whatever it's called, but even when the Sales guy said its in manual it would sporadically change up for me, which would drive me mad. I know they need to change down if you go from 70 to standstill and don't paddle down, but surely accelerating they remain in the manual gear you have chosen ?
I've never noticed the "kick down" that Daro mentioned - maybe I'm just not trying hard enough! The box will down-shift for you in manual mode if the car is going to stall. Equally it will change up for you if you hit the red-line. I don't think either of those functions is a bad thing. One of the other benefits of PDK is that you don't have this "over-rev" nonsense.
 
ORIGINAL: billy1 I've never noticed the "kick down" that Daro mentioned - maybe I'm just not trying hard enough! The box will down-shift for you in manual mode if the car is going to stall. Equally it will change up for you if you hit the red-line. I don't think either of those functions is a bad thing. One of the other benefits of PDK is that you don't have this "over-rev" nonsense.
Billy it's not an obvious feature unless you seriously floor the loud pedal [:D] which is exactly how I want it to be when in manual mode. Personally I have never experienced the stall or over rev auto changes as described above ... my driving must be improving more than I realised :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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ORIGINAL: billy1 I've never noticed the "kick down" that Daro mentioned - maybe I'm just not trying hard enough! The box will down-shift for you in manual mode if the car is going to stall. Equally it will change up for you if you hit the red-line. I don't think either of those functions is a bad thing. One of the other benefits of PDK is that you don't have this "over-rev" nonsense.
Billy it's not an obvious feature unless you seriously floor the loud pedal [:D] which is exactly how I want it to be when in manual mode. Personally I have never experienced the stall or over rev auto changes as described above ... my driving must be improving more than I realised :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Ha - I tend to change up early, clearly! The only time I've noticed it downchanging for me is when I forget I'm in manual and enter a town and stop at lights - the car will drop into 1st.
 
ORIGINAL: billy1 Ha - I tend to change up early, clearly! The only time I've noticed it downchanging for me is when I forget I'm in manual and enter a town and stop at lights - the car will drop into 1st.
Yes agree[:)] I have experienced stopping at lights in 2nd gear and it will drop back into 1st which makes perfect sense ...
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ORIGINAL: C2MTH This might sound daft, but always having had manuals to this point I have to ask - when it's in PDK manual mode does it stay and hold manual mode ? Reason I ask is I test drove a few weeks back an S4 convertible (didn't like it at all, way too soft and cruiser like, but my wife insisted we try it as she likes them...) with S tronic or whatever it's called, but even when the Sales guy said its in manual it would sporadically change up for me, which would drive me mad. I know they need to change down if you go from 70 to standstill and don't paddle down, but surely accelerating they remain in the manual gear you have chosen ?
Please don't buy a PDK Spyder :)
 
http://www.carmodel.com/gt-spirit/gt017c/1-18/porsche/boxster-spider-987-2012/73918 came across this not sure it is the same maker Script wrong colour for me .
 
Yes, same maker - GT Spirit. Bought direct (in euros) it worked out at ~£68, and I think the exchange rate has got a little bit better since I paid.
 
Fresh Spyder for sale Looks like the same car that was for sale privately in January this year at 20k miles and £33750 [:eek:] http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/2010-60-porsche-boxster-spyder-manual--19-rs-spyder-alloys-carbon-bucket-seats-sport-chrono-sports-exhaust/2842307
 

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