Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
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To be honest I would not bother with SS as it is very notchey and how quick to you really want to change gears When I drove commercials /buses back in the old days you counted 123 or lit up a fag when changing gears [ORIGINAL: jdpef356 I think you will have a broader market when it comes time to sell if you have radio. If you retro fit short shift on 987 you will negate your Porsche guarantee if you have one.[]
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Rocket Man
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short shiftr is good but i have not driven one without one, i never have my radio on so i am not bothered with that any more than having aircon. everyone to their own they will all sell and for good money
I never use the radio, partly because it sounds awful and partly because I'd rather listen to the flat 6! Of course, that doesn't help much regarding the question of resale, sorry! I only use a/c when it's really hot and I'm in traffic - this has happened a few times and I was glad of it then. []
]I had the OPC fit the SS before I collected the car. Was fine to drive. I did the same on the turbo but literally no notchiness compared to the 987 transmission. Might have been under £300 all in but I don't recall. I'm used to short throw now so will always opt for it. I would have thought lack of radio on a rare and sought after car that the Spyder shouldn't be a concern for resale. Most will want a radio I reckon but such a spec is rare so will easily find a home as someone will be after exactly that, as Darrell confirmed a few pages back.
I actually found that having no air con seemed to be the thing that potential buyers commented on rather than no radio, which I personally found surprising. Not wishing to open that debate up, on a closed car I can see it's importance but on a car that 95% of the time will be driven with the top off, it's completely unnecessary in my mind - the car's blower is great, giving out as much heat/cooling that I've ever needed. Can't see the radio being a deal breaker, if everything else is favoured by the buyer.
color=#0033FF]if s/s is supplied and fitted by OPC then warranty isn't an issue at all Had s/s on my last Spyder and really loved the slick action it's only when you come from a regular Boxster shift to the short one you can appreciate the sportier quicker changes would definitely be on my wish list [/color]ORIGINAL: jdpef356 I think you will have a broader market when it comes time to sell if you have radio. If you retro fit short shift on 987 you will negate your Porsche guarantee if you have one.[
Nattyboy
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Thanks guys - I'm looking at a car tomorrow - fingers crossed ! Last few questions if you could help ? 1) I recall so done saying about a bag for the hood - should there be one ? 2) still not sure why some pse cars have (nicer) shiny chrome silencers and some are black - the black ones look much smaller - are they I wonder ? 3) the one I'm looking at has a cup holder - how does that work ? (Perhaps like the 911 one ?) Appreciate all. The advice ,
To answer in order of questions:- - I don't recall ever seeing a bag for the soft top. - The black Exhaust normally denotes Non PSE. However, it could be a previous owner did not like the chrome ones so had them coated black. Suggest you start the engine and flick the sports exhaust on, you will soon know if it has PSE when you plant your foot. - Cup holders? I suggest you take your drinks out of glasses when you hit the south of France - Red or white, its your choice[] John PS - One thing I would suggest is that you take the car to a Porsche Centre (I guess and Indi could also plug in) to have the Engine checked for over revs. PPS - If you intend to get a Porsche extended warranty you will need to have the above done and other checks carried out (used to be called 111 point check) before such time as PC will issue a extended warranty. This inspection will also highlight any other problems your prospect may have. Good luck with the viewing.
] John PS - One thing I would suggest is that you take the car to a Porsche Centre (I guess and Indi could also plug in) to have the Engine checked for over revs. PPS - If you intend to get a Porsche extended warranty you will need to have the above done and other checks carried out (used to be called 111 point check) before such time as PC will issue a extended warranty. This inspection will also highlight any other problems your prospect may have. Good luck with the viewing.
Nattyboy
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Thanks john really appreciate it. I've been in a 911 for a while so understand about opc warranties/checks/rev ranges etc. The cars just been serviced by the opc and has no advisories (other than some recall work on the wind deflector / not sure what that was?), the cars pdk so seemed little point in getting rev ranges done. I have the factory spec printout which indicates pse. There definetley seems to be two styles of silencer - the chrome ones seem bigger and have a crimped edge. Cup holder thing was out of curiosity tbh lol !
The car is predominantly 987, so anything like cupholders is standard 987. As John says, standard exhaust tips are black, PSE exhaust tips are chrome. There are no variations on this theme. That however doesn't stop someone changing the chrome tips to black, because as we have heard from some owners before, they have done this because the black ones are easier to maintain. You may have heard about a bag for the wind deflector. Again, standard 987 wind deflector and bag. No bag for the hood. Some say it is possible to see exceeded rev ranges on a PDK, for example if you get the car airborne[]
]spyderwhite
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If you are discussing the car for sale privately on piston heads that's rather cheap( but a trade sale on autotrader)which has black exhaust tips but states pse alarm bells are already ringing for me.unregistered accident damage?discs and pads replaced 5k-10k before needed doing?maybe it was a track hack that had a rear shunt?
MrDemon
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not good to start accident damage rumors as many people fitted black tips or it may not have the PSE full stop. (but it does say switcable) being PDK to get the mega shifts you will need the crono software being done. about £800 It's not cheap imo, that is more than a trader will bid for the car @ £40k , so maybe he has had a trade bid and put it up a bit on that , it has done 25k miles, I know a OPC don't like PDK cars atm and is very weary and they are going to put a Spyder on at £38k soon.
I haven't seen the car advertised but as MrD rightly says, PDK without Sport Chrono is not a good combination. Without Sport Chrono you only have a standard mode which will be more leaned towards economy. Yes it will learn how you drive but Sport Chrono is not just about the revs as which it will change up in auto mode and how it hangs onto lower gears but also the speed at which it swaps cogs. As Mr D says, to get the mega shifts, even when using it in manual mode where it slams the gears in in the shortest of milliseconds, requires Sport Chrono.
I wouldn't say that black exhaust tips implies a rear end shunt. You can replace chrome tips with chrome tips if you damaged your car. Get to the bottom of the exhaust spec. Factor in a discount for Sport Chrono retrofit. Haven't looked at the advert to think of other things to suggest.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/-immaculate-2011-porsche-boxster-spyder-pdk-24k-sports-exhaust-fpsh-just-fully-serviced/4176395 I take it is this car you are looking at ..IMO it does not have PSE although the add says different and it has no SC
spyderwhite
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I was joking when I said about it having a crunch but apart from the pse and sc issue why would anyone replace perfectly good discs and pads if selling said vehicle and advertise privately on one site and trade on another!Apart from this the whole advert is full of misinformation!hence my gut says steer clear!
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