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Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

The fact you have 3 cars soon to be 4 to drive,so MrD let's say you can have/afford only one shopping trolley ie your fiesta and a one nice car for high days and holidays ,trips abroad ,days out and occasional trips to the shopping centre etc out of your stable what would it be(CR,spyder (gt4?)

 
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Good question, lets say only 1 car and no Fiesta, then the Cayman R is the best single use car I have owned. add a nice geo and the mods I have done to my Spyder and it's a mega thing. I await the GT4 in about 3 weeks to see if it makes a great daily with these even longer ratio's.

I am lucky to have my Spyder and I choose to mod that and not my R, it's a great drive , you feel the lightweight build over my R and the extra mid range it has with the manifolds etc. but it's noisy on long trips, I went to Spa and used earplugs. but it's my ltd use sunny only use car over buying another Lotus, that may change when the Charged cooled 420BHP Exige comes out mind you :) The GT4 is a R plus 20%, it looks like a great thing but will it be better and feel better than the R esp if you mod the R, time will tell.

It will kill an R on track and lap times, but I don't buy my cars for lap times ! it could well feel over tyred and long geared for road use.

I think the Evora 400 looks mega as a 1 use car, but £80k will see you taking a bath on 20k which is not bad if you make £20k on the GT4 to swap in 6 months time, but it's still throwing £20k away !!! for me it's about a supercar, so I'll sell every thing, R and GT4 and want to try a 12C that would make a nice pair along side my Spyder. or a 458 if the GT4 makes bigger money.

I cannot see the GT4 staying more than 12 months, but I am keeping it a while just incase the 981.2 GT4 RS comes out as I have one reserved on provision Porsche get my GT4 back.

Again going back to your question about holidays, if the Holiday was a mates trip to Spa inc track days the GT4 is the right tool.

And as it stands because my Spyder is better on track than my R due to adjustable LCA ,any track fun I take the Spyder and hunt down GT3 owners :)

But if some one said to me I only want 1 car and have £45k to spend, Cayman R with bigger calipers and hi flow manifolds would be great.

 
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PH today we have 17 Spyders for sale but only 8 manuals :ROFLMAO: so it will be interesting to see how long the PDK's linger once the must have manuals have found new homes [8D]

In the meantime I have had equal fun and thrills in both my Spyders with both gearboxes

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Kdpef356 said:
So given the choice of a new 981 spyder if pdk and manual was available which would you choose Daro?

Very hard call but I think I would have let money rule my head on this one as my mileage p.a. doesn't warrant the extra cost of the PDK and as used PDK Spyders generally go for similar money to an equivalent used manual its an option which has no extra used car appeal or value despite its high price brand new.

When I recently did my PEC Spyder session the switch back to a seriously short fast manual shift coupled with the sports + rev matching on downshifts bought a whole new thrill factor to the manual box which would have swayed me to willingly go back to a stick [;)]

My time with the PDK driven 24/7 in manual mode has been a very positive experience despite what others may feel but my average mph for sure will be a lot lower back in a 3 pedal Spyder perhaps the biggest negative with the PDK is the ease one can stir the 320 horses into action [:eek:]

 
MrDemon said:
I have sold 3 or 4 cars to try something new, always been a mistake.

This time I say to myself "The Spyder does what I want it to do, why change" hence I modded it to make it how mine is today, but it can be put back to full oem if the prices do go up and some one wants a org car.

we have seem the bigger % of people come and go here with PDK cars.

I hear you. I guess there are still a lot of 987 Spyder owners who are still in the 'want to try something different' phase of their car buying days. Maybe the next set of owners will hang onto them. I wasn't tired of mine when I sold it but had other things I wanted to try. Wanted to try a Cayman, Boxster and 911 and had only done 2 out of the 3 when I had the Spyder. If I had the Spyder after I had already had the 911 I probably would have kept it long term. Very happy with the order of events though (I think I would have regretted letting this particular 15k mile 997.1 go but would have been very happy for the Spyder to be the long termer; whereas, for some reason I don't regret letting the Spyder go in comparison to how i've bonded with the particular car I now have. But that's just a personal thing).

Maybe a higher proportion of PDK owners are of the 'want to try something different' type and hence we see more come up for sale. Will be interesting to see in the future if there becomes a price differential between the supply and demand of PDK cars and the supply and demand of manual cars. At the moment are they fairly equal or are they moving apart? I must admit I don't watch the values any more. I think PDK aligns pretty well to the type of people who buy Spyders. As I was saying, it's not a hard core car and despite the image that it sometimes has and in reality many are bought by people who want AC, PDK and whichever chairs are best suited for them and the Mrs to drive a thousand miles around the best roads in Europe. Those types of buyers still count as they are putting their hand in their pocket as much as anyone else and buying Spyders. Even if they sell it after a couple of years there are more of such buyers who want exactly the same. So the market for PDK Spyders looks as sustainable as the manual market at the moment - more cars but more buyers. Otherwise we'd have seen a double digit surplus of PDK cars long before people started trading them in for a 981 because we've had 5 years of seeing PDK Spyders being offered to market and shift before piling up. I think the only 987 Spyders that will command a premium over other 987 Spyders are "brochure spec (no radio, no AC etc i.e. lightest) plus PCCB" because they are so rare. Not many people are after a car like that, but for those that are, they are so rare that the seller can command a premium as the buyers have very little choice of cars. Demand may exceed supply on those cars more than the other specs.

 
Will 17" 987.1 wheels fit the Spyder?

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flat6 said:
MrDemon said:
I have sold 3 or 4 cars to try something new, always been a mistake.

This time I say to myself "The Spyder does what I want it to do, why change" hence I modded it to make it how mine is today, but it can be put back to full oem if the prices do go up and some one wants a org car.

we have seem the bigger % of people come and go here with PDK cars.

So the market for PDK Spyders looks as sustainable as the manual market at the moment - more cars but more buyers. Otherwise we'd have seen a double digit surplus of PDK cars long before people started trading them in for a 981 because we've had 5 years of seeing PDK Spyders being offered to market and shift before piling up.
Pistonheads today we have 9 PDKs v 7 Manuals[&:]

 
Still pretty equal then.

Even if there are more PDKs being offered to market they are selling at a comparable rate.

 
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[h1][link=http://www.torque.com.sg/] [/link][/h1] Porsche Boxster Spyder review[/h1]It may cost over $450,000 on the road, but our reviewer argues that Porsche’s new Boxster Spyder is a bit of a bargain.[/h2]STORY: EDRIC PAN | PUBLISHED 6 DAYS AGO

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You are getting most of what makes its hardcore stablemate, the Cayman GT4, so special, at a more than $40,000 discount. Because Porsche has shamelessly cannibalised the GT4 to create this, the most focused and potent Boxster of all.

The close relationship between the two cars is obvious at first glance, because the Spyder wears the GT4’s entire front end. This means a jutting, low-chinned front bumper dominated by three gaping intakes, and a horizontal slit-like air vent at the leading edge of the bonnet. These visually set the Spyder apart from the rest of the Boxster range.

Underneath, the Boxster Spyder’s 3.8-litre flat-6 powerplant is identical to that of the GT4 (which nicked said engine from the 911 Carrera S). But because the Spyder lacks the GT4’s sideblades that create a “ram-air” effect at high speed, it has 10bhp less, at 375bhp.

Still, this gives the car a thumping 45bhp advantage over the next most powerful Boxster model, the GTS.

Inside, the Spyder benefits from the GT4’s smaller, Alcantara-covered steering wheel and stubbier gearlever. It is billed as the Boxster for purists, so this new model is manual-only – there is no PDK dual-clutch transmission option.

The gear throw is delightfully short and precise. And if you select Sport Plus mode, the engine automatically blips itself on downchanges to mimic a perfect heel-toe gearchange.

But despite all the similarities, the Spyder is not quite a “Boxster GT4”. It has been conceived as more of an everyday device than the single-minded, track-biased GT4, and to that end, it uses the Sports suspension from the Boxster GTS (but with a stiffer rear anti-roll bar) rather than the GT4’s bespoke, ultra-firm setup.

The brakes are also less extreme, being taken off the 911 Carrera S, whereas the GT4 goes the whole hog with brakes from the 911 GT3.

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In keeping with the Boxster Spyder’s purist ethos, weight-saving is paramount, which explains measures such as the lightweight bucket seats and reduced sound insulation inside the cabin, and the use of aluminium for the rear deck.

Incidentally, that rear deck, which stretches from aft of the cabin all the way to the ducktail spoiler, sports two pronounced bulges flowing rearwards from the roll hoops, giving the car a unique, unmistakable silhouette. This harks back to the Boxster Spyder’s inspiration – the 1953 550 Spyder, which has a similar longitudinal hump adorning its engine cover.

Most significantly, the folding top is now a lighter, semi-manual system. It looks markedly different from the standard Boxster’s, being lower and with two distinctive “fins” stretching backwards into that raised rear deck. This visually lowers and stretches the hood, and makes an already pretty convertible even more delectable.

The rear window is polymer instead of glass, the hood frame is made of lightweight materials like magnesium and aluminium, and the hood itself is now an unlined, single-layer affair.

Where the regular Boxster has a fully automated folding top, the Spyder’s has to be raised and lowered by hand. The electric switches in the cabin now merely serve to unlatch the rear deck and to operate the header rail catch to secure the hood once it’s in place.

This new-style roof alone shaves 10kg off the car’s kerb weight and also helps lower its centre of gravity. Combined with all the other dietary measures, this makes the Spyder the lightest model in the Boxster range, despite it having the biggest engine.

The payoff for all that weight loss is in the handling, of course. The normal Boxster is already brilliant around bends, but the Spyder dials that up a notch, positively flicking into turns, allowing almost no lean at all, and delivering so much roadholding that on the twisty Tuscan mountain roads of our test route, my courage runs out way before the grip does.

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The sensations through that small steering wheel are wonderful, relaying lots of detail about what the chassis is up to as we hurtle along. The steering is ultra-responsive, and quick-geared enough for sweepers to be taken with the slightest swivel of my wrist.

The ride, while significantly firmer than a normal Boxster’s, remains composed enough that the car is not thrown off-line over poor surfaces.

And between corners, the car is ferocious, belting forward with much more urge than the already rapid Boxster GTS. The extra power and torque of that 3.8-litre engine really do make themselves felt right across the rev range. The century sprint is covered in just 4.5 seconds, and top speed is a sky-high 290km/h.

That engine makes itself heard, too, howling its way thrillingly through the midrange to its 7600rpm redline, and crackling like a mouthful of popping candy when I lift my foot off the throttle pedal. If sensory overload is your thing, drive the Spyder flat-out through a tunnel with the top down.

This vehicle does not just devour B roads, it has proven its mettle on track, too – its lap time at the Nurburgring is 7 minutes 47 seconds, a mere 7 seconds behind the Cayman GT4’s benchmark.

It may be the hardest-edged, fastest Boxster, but the Spyder still retains most of the base model’s friendly useability. Add to that the seductiveness of that low-roofed, evocative shape, and you can see why many will be snared in the Spyder’s irresistible web.


Porsche Boxster Spyder 3.8 ENGINE 3800cc, 24-valves, flat-6 MAX POWER 375bhp at 6700rpm MAX TORQUE 420Nm at 4750-6000rpm POWER TO WEIGHT 285.2bhp per tonne GEARBOX 6-speed manual 0-100KM/H 4.5 seconds TOP SPEED 290km/h CONSUMPTION 10.1km/L (combined) PRICE EXCL. COE $382,588 (after $15k CEVS surcharge)

 
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[h3]Porsche Boxster Spyder[/h3]The new 981 [link=http://thesportscarguys.com/2015/04/01/2016-porsche-boxster-spyder/]Porsche Boxster Spyder[/link] has been in the shadows of the [link=http://thesportscarguys.com/2015/02/04/2015-porsche-cayman-gt4/]Cayman GT4[/link] and [link=http://thesportscarguys.com/2015/03/04/2016-porsche-911-gt3-rs/]911 GT3 RS[/link] ever since it was introduced. The GT4 and GT3 RS both have better performance figures than the Boxster and since they were announced first they have held much of the spotlight. From a strict performance stand point the 911 is in a different league and on the track would dust the Cayman and Boxster Spyder.

But most of us don’t drive on a track very often. Is the Boxster Spyder more fun than the GT4 and GT3 RS on normal roads? Can it carve the side of a hill and still have plenty of excitement when driving in a straight line?

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The answer to all of this is yes. At the heart of the Boxster Spyder is a 3.8-liter flat-six engine sourced from the 911 Carrera S. Where the S offers 400 horsepower, the Spyder has been detuned a bit to only offer 375 horsepower. While not close to the GT3 RS, it is just 10 horses short of the Cayman GT4.

Thanks to its lightweight construction it can launch you from 0-60 mph in just 4.3 seconds. Like the 987 Boxster Spyder, the new version focused on weight reduction. This is very evident in the manual convertible top with a plastic rear window. While much easier than the last models multi-piece top, it still requires some work versus pushing a button in the standard Boxster. However, the top does save 24 pounds over the standard unit.

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Should Porsche Make A Boxster Spyder GT4?[/b] Porsche Boxster SpyderRecent reports are that Porsche is contemplating a Boxster Spyder GT4. The car would combine the...[/link][/ul] Sure the GT4 has plenty of GT3 suspension parts and when pushed it will be more of a precision tool. Then there is the GT3 RS which is on a whole other level. The 911 is a race car for the street and costs quite a bit more than the Boxster Spyder or Cayman GT4.

Though the Cayman and 911 are better machines when driven hard, the Boxster has a few advantages. The most obvious is the convertible top. Styling also gives it an exotic look. Thanks to the large air intakes behind the doors and the power domes (what Porsche calls the two humps behind the driver) we’ve heard that some less informed car enthusiasts have mistaken them for the 918 Spyder in press drives.

So, when you take into account a lightweight car with a good amount of power that can carve a canyon road with ease, you get a very fun ride. Is it better than the GT4 or GT3 RS? No, but it is a great fun machine and if you purchase one you will have a great time every drive. The best remedy would be to buy all three, but since most can’t and the Boxster Spyder is the most attainable, anybody that buys one will have to work hard to wipe that smile off his face.

- See more at: [link=http://thesportscarguys.com/2015/09/30/why-the-porsche-boxster-spyder-may-be-more-fun-than-a-cayman-gt4-and-a-911-gt3-rs/#sthash.2ss9CY0h.dpuf]http://thesportscarguys.c.../#sthash.2ss9CY0h.dpuf[/link]

 
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