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Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

Managed to get the new car out on dry non motorway roads today; wow the drivetrain is something else, imho a real step change from my GTS (PDK), great to get back into that so sweet manual gearbox, still a little bit novicey on roof removal and putting it back but that will improve; so pleased with the car a great drive and didn't notice the lonnnnnggggg gearing.

regards

andrew

 
wow the drivetrain is something else !!

how can you tell this when you are sub 4k revs and the 3.4 is a nice reving unit.

 
Andrew Killington said:
Managed to get the new car out on dry non motorway roads today; wow the drivetrain is something else, imho a real step change from my GTS (PDK), great to get back into that so sweet manual gearbox, still a little bit novicey on roof removal and putting it back but that will improve; so pleased with the car a great drive and didn't notice the lonnnnnggggg gearing.

regards

andrew
Thank goodness an ex GT3RS / 987Spyder / 981 GTS owner can gives us all an insight to just how good and livable the newbie is instead of non owners trashing this 375 bhp Gen 2 Spyder as nothing special to own cherish and enjoy :ROFLMAO:

I take it the Italian mistress is well & truly out of your system now the mid life crisis has passed :ROFLMAO:[;)]

Any thoughts or plans for some PPF or did your GTS manage to get by chip free side sills in particular

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more about running in the drive train etc people think it's only about engine

but bearings drivetrain etc all need bedding in.

 
Andrew Killington said:
Managed to get the new car out on dry non motorway roads today; wow the drivetrain is something else, imho a real step change from my GTS (PDK), great to get back into that so sweet manual gearbox, still a little bit novicey on roof removal and putting it back but that will improve; so pleased with the car a great drive and didn't notice the lonnnnnggggg gearing.

regards

andrew

Congrats Andrew. Sounds epic! How often do you reckon you'll drive it compared to the last 3 cars you've had (981 GTS, F430 Spider, 987 Spyder, if I recall correctly)

 
Just had the call from my OPC....

The eagle has landed !! [:)]

Unfortunately I'm away / busy next week so won't get to collect until 1st week of Dec, but just in time for that Indian summer !

Planning on a sneaky peek on Monday though and a pic or two.

All very cool [8D]

 
Resale Racing Red

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daro911 said:
Boxster7 said:
Just had the call from my OPC....

The eagle has landed !! [:)]

Congratulations they are arriving thick & fast now - Is you bird on time or later than planned

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Yes mine was delayed because of seat shortage, it should have been an Oct build.

Its my first ever brand new car, so I can't see me driving it out on the salted roads !

So I will be hoping the temps rise and the sun pokes his head out soon....

The blue PCM surround looks nice but did I read this is a $1900 option ??

eeek...

 
Daro that blue car does look the business! The painted PCM surround doesn't do it for me but then I was a bit put off by the first one I ever saw which was on an early PCM in yellow :-/

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Although, having just searched for a blue one that colour does seem to make it a little more palatable

Maybe it will grow on me - looks much better on a 981 for sure :)

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Andrew Killington said:
Thanks very much; defo more than the 430 as it fits in a car park, hoping as much as I can

That's good. I'll have to try a test drive in an X73 car, just to get a flavour of it. Doesn't add the quicker steering rack or engine or noise or looks though :-(

 
Andrew Killington said:
MrDemon said:
more about running in the drive train etc people think it's only about engine

but bearings drivetrain etc all need bedding in.

yup, only joking, how's the GT4?

any first impressions?

Easier car to live with bar the ride height, nothing like a Cayman R so hard to say, it's more than the R but not more than the R !!! lol

I posted a review on the R vs A gts on ph the R won.

[link=http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=48&t=1555548&nmt=]http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=48&t=1555548&nmt=[/link]

does the GT4 and 981 Spyder replace the R and 987.2 Spyder, nope not in any way shape or form, they are cars in their own right and must be judged as so.

I am fed up of all this, the new cars are 100% better in every way talk, they are chalk and cheese to drive.

I wish I could have kept the R but 3 cars all manual all 2 seater all mid engine is not on my pay grade ! ;-/

All these cars are mega things and great value, I would rather the GT4 had the real 420BHp and old school steering, I would rather the Spyder have a trick r8 style electric roof and old school steering.

And I hoped both had the PDK-s option.

if they bring out gen 2's 3.8's of GT4 and Spyder then I cannot see anyone keeping the gen 1 cars, where as the R and 987.2 SPyder are what they are for that era, these new cars use new tech which is going to only get better esp steering.

owning detuned engines when we know they can be 420bhp seems odd to me.

If the gen 2 cars don't happen or a Cayman RS does not happen then I'll get the 420bhp put on my GT4 to free it all up a bit.

pose value the new cars have it in spades though nothing like the feel good factor of owning a brand new rare car.

 
It's a time machine :ROFLMAO:

[link=http://www.autos.ca/car-test-drives/test-drive-2016-porsche-boxster-spyder/?all=1]http://www.autos.ca/car-t...-boxster-spyder/?all=1[/link]

Test Drive: 2016 Porsche Boxster Spyder[/h1]by Jonathan Yarkony - November 19, 2015

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The 2016 Porsche Boxster Spyder is a time machine. Not literally, of course, because those don’t really exist (in this dimension). [blockquote]The Spyder is a curious amalgamation of various generations of Porsche greatness.

[/blockquote]No, the Spyder is a curious amalgamation of various generations of Porsche greatness. The very name Spyder takes us back to the fifties and sixties, when the moniker was appended to numbers such as 550 and 718, and could be found running at playgrounds like Sebring, Targa Florio, and other legendary venues. The Boxster is a child of the nineties, and the original platform soldiered on with relatively few systemic changes until the arrival of the [link=http://www.autos.ca/first-drives/first-drive-2013-porsche-boxster-s/]third generation in 2012 bearing the 981 platform code[/link], this time receiving a thoroughly reworked platform fitting for a 21st century sports car. Not a roadster, a sports car. But it’s a roadster too. And very good at both functions, I must add.

On racing circuits, a mid-engine layout is common enough, but only a handful of cars available for sale to the public in this day and age feature such a dedicated performance layout. The Boxster, I dare say, is the greatest, taking into consideration value.

In Canada, the Boxster starts for as little $60K, the cheapest car in Porsche’s lineup, and only a few hundred more than a base Macan and a few hundred less than the starting point for Cayman. That price, is, in fact, a very large part of its greatness. While not as affordable as Corollas or CR-Vs, or even sports cars like the Toyobaru twins or the MX-5, it’s not astronomical as so many of the performance sedans, muscle cars and supercars that fill the interwebs with our lust and desire. While it can take another good $10-20K before the Boxster is a performance powerhouse, and the best-of-breed Spyder starts at $93,700, the example you see here cresting $100K, its elemental goodness is part and parcel of even that most basic Boxster (or Cayman for that matter). My point: the value is there, but if you have the credit, you can improve it to your heart’s desire.

From a distance, you might not look at it and think that this is a $100K car. There’s no flashy colour scheme, just stormtrooper-scheme black accents on a pristine white background. Look closer, or spot the aerodynamic buttresses on the rear deck, calling to mind the 918 Spyder’s hunched stance, and it begins to seem a little more exotic. While unassuming, this car drew a lot of looks with its dramatic contrast, big black air intakes and accents and stunningly perfect proportions. Okay, if you stare at the profile for too long, the large wheels seem to grow even larger, but it’s appropriate given that this car feels like it is all wheels, like you are simply strapped, tightened on a rack, to a set of four sticky, grippy tires.

This, or the 911? [link=http://www.autotrader.ca/newsfeatures/20151111/2017-porsche-911-first-drive/]2017 Porsche 911 First Drive[/link]

Every bit of tension between those four corners vibrates through the chassis like the harmony of the spheres providing a sense of oneness with the universe, but with cupholders. Vestigial cupholders, but hey, it still has cupholders. Okay, they’re not so bad, but anything over a Timmy’s Medium or Starbucks Tall is riding in a precarious perch that promises instant wardrobe malfunction at the first exploration of this car’s capabilities, and those capabilities are prodigious. Moral of the story: Make friends with espresso.

So, the mid-engine layout is rare on street cars but beloved in racing and any kind of driving, really, for concentrating the vehicle’s mass in its longitudinal centre. Vertically, the horizontal ‘boxer’ layout of the Boxster’s six cylinders means the engine can be mounted lower than your typical inline or vee configuration. We like lower engines because they are usually the heaviest part, and lowering weight also improves the car’s balance. And in general, the less weight the better, because less weight makes the entire car easier to accelerate, stop and change directions. The Spyder’s singular purpose in the Boxster lineup is to achieve the very best of all those attributes: lowered by 20 mm, lightened by over 30 kg (1,315 kg) along with an increase in power to make it go faster.

And this time around, it’s a big increase in power: 60 more hp than the S, 45 more than the GTS. Rather than tweaking the 3.4L H6 in use elsewhere in the Boxster lineup, Porsche retrofitted the 911 Carrera S 3.8L flat-six for the Spyder and Cayman GT4, here tuned to 375 hp at 6,700 rpm, while the Cayman GT4 gets a bonus 10 hp at a clinically manic 7,400.

While the concept of a lightweight, elemental roadster is a throwback, this engine is thoroughly of the modern era, achieving its power along with the proscribed efficiency via direct injection, dual overhead cams with variable valve timing, dry-sump lubrication, water-cooled with aluminum block and cylinder heads. The suspension is modern, too, but ditches the electronically adjustable shocks in favour of well-sorted sport suspension that gives it that 20-mm drop in ride height, and then there are the myriad electronic safety systems like stability control and torque vectoring which in Porsche’s hands border on arcane black magic, though they can be regressed to more primitive levels governed by the Sport Chrono Package’s varying degrees of independence and aggression for the driver.

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Those are the numbers, but the experience is classic and timeless to go along with its natural aspiration, perhaps the last of its kind in Porsches. Offered only with a six-speed manual transmission, there is no hesitation from computer controlled clutches, just the feel of the clutches biting and power coursing to the rear wheels (that’s right, it’s also only rear-wheel drive – a purist’s dream everywhere you turn). The power rises in an equally traditional linear surge, enough torque at moderate revs to chirp tires or downright smoke ‘em, but its peak 310 lb-ft are attained at a reasonable 4,750 rpm, making launches and control at every speed eminently controllable.

And it makes noises, too. There is a button to amplify the exhaust in all its unfettered cacophony. Press it, or keep the car in Sport mode, which also goes to full exhaust mode. Cars like this, the F-Type and Corvette should be heard in all their glory, all the time. Then again, it is also nice to drive them all the time, so the whole roof thing in winter would quite nice. We hate you Arizona.

As you grip the smaller-diameter, gloriously buttonless steering wheel (ours was covered in Alcantara no less – an orgasm for your hands at every touch) and the short shifter and unleash this meanest of Boxsters, the engine sitting just behind your seat wails its explosive binge-burning of hydrocarbons and the exhaust keens its signature Porsche metallic rasp, then cackles delicious staccato bursts as you lift off the throttle, blatting away at downshifts and generally making sweet audible mayhem, the exposed feast of sound a far greater boon than something like mere protection from the elements. There are more noises too, and they are many and wonderful.

And we haven’t even gotten to the drive. I’m almost loathe to share for fear that the memories will fade as the words creep out on the page. Quite simply, it is the best car I’ve ever driven. While older cars may have greater feedback in their hydraulic or manual steering racks, I’d trade that any day for the precision, weight, speed and feel of the Spyder paired with this sublime platform. The steering is sharp and immediate, quickened over the standard Boxsters, seemingly without a millimetre of wasted motion.

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The gearbox and clutch are an ideal pairing as well, quick, clear takeup from the pedal and short, snickety throws from the stick make it both easy and rewarding to extract performance without being frustrating in traffic. It has been noted that the gearing is fairly tall, no doubt to achieve some measure of efficiency, but the power band is fairly wide so that most tighter corners can be handled in second and the rest in third. Depending on track configuration you might have some gaps in power by staying in gears longer, but on the twisting roads I drove it was of little concern except on one hairpin followed by a steeper climb that required first gear.

Although the Cayman GT4 is the more hardcore of the top-spec 981 twins, benefiting from those extra 10 hp and the 911 GT3’s front suspension and a big fixed spoiler that clearly ‘means business’, it is the Spyder that captures driving magic without looking like a boy racer but rather a Concours special, and promises a more well-rounded experience, its ride mysteriously comfortable despite such unwavering stance in corners. This thing does not understand the meaning of body roll, and it would take a track to tease out any pitch during hard braking, so it is under control at all times, with the pedals and seat relaying any shifts in weight transfer flawlessly and the steering wheel capturing any wavering of the tires grip for superpower-like confidence.

Before parting, we must complain about some of the loss of purity over the previous generation. The[link=http://www.autos.ca/motoring-memories/final-drive-2011-porsche-boxster-spyder/]2011 Boxster Spyder[/link] weighed in at an even more extreme 1,275, shaving 80 kg from the Boxster S of its generation. A large portion of that less extreme weight loss is the roof. This generation’s roof is far more substantial and easier to operate, with reinforced panels to help keep its shape rather than pure fabric stretched taut, with an agonizingly convoluted process to remove, fold and stow, and equally irritating process to put in place should you encounter surprise weather other than sunshine. But with that car, you could also simply leave the roof in the garage if you are certain of the forecast.

The new roof is fixed to the car via hoops and folding arms. Some have complained that the hidden buttons to release the corner panels are difficult. Wow, like, seriously? While not as easy as the [link=http://www.autotrader.ca/newsfeatures/20150601/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-2016-mazda-mx-5/]new Miata[/link] (is anything that easy), it’s a 30-second job which required walking around the car to fold and stow or raise and attach certain bits. Not a deal breaker.

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Nothing about this car should be a deal breaker, except its price and practicality (if you cannot afford a seasonal toy for $100K). You could drive it in winter, but please don’t. One hundred years form now, this will be on the Pebble Beach Concours as one of the last great analogue Porsches. I know that, because it’s a time machine.

Warranty: 4 years/80,000 km; 4 years/80,000 km powertrain; 12 years/unlimited distance corrosion perforation; 4 years/80,000 km roadside assistanceCompetitors: Chevrolet Corvette Jaguar F-Type Scarlett Johansson

Quick Facts: 2016 Porsche Boxster Spyder Layout: Mid-engine, rear-drive Engine: naturally aspirated 3.8L flat-six Transmission: six-speed manual only Power: 375 hp at 6,700 rpm Torque: 310 lb-ft at 4,750 rpm Redline: 7,800 rpm Weight: 1,315 kg Front Brakes: six-piston calipers, 330-mm vented rotors Rear Brakes: four-piston calipers, 299-mm vented rotors Tires: P235/35ZR20 front, P265/35ZR20 rear Acceleration: 0-100 km/h in 4.5 seconds (Boxster GTS: 4.9 seconds)

Pricing: 2016 Porsche Boxster Spyder Base Price: $93,700 Options: Carrara White Metallic paint $820, Leather with Alcantara $2,470, Bi-Xenon headlights w/ Dynamic Light System $790, contrast stitching $1,190 Destination: $1,085 Price as Tested: $100,055

 
Andrew Killington said:
How will you eke out the power? Throttle body? Map?
[link=https://www.facebook.com/9x1.org/?fref=ts]https://www.facebook.com/9x1.org/?fref=ts[/link]

these guys will do it for you.

 
MrDemon said:
Andrew Killington said:
How will you eke out the power? Throttle body? Map?
[link=https://www.facebook.com/9x1.org/?fref=ts]https://www.facebook.com/9x1.org/?fref=ts[/link]

these guys will do it for you.
There goes your Porsche warranty for the life of the car [:eek:] which will be brilliant for the cars residual too:ROFLMAO:

 

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