Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

[MrDemon]

More power to weight than a 911 of that era 176lbs lighter than a normal Boxster.

carbon roof. Etc etc.

never to be repeated imo that sort or detail and weight saving.

Makes you you wonder why Porsche are so lazy with the new range of cars like the 981 and 911 T and the hype around the cars for them to fetch overs and have an ordering frenzy.

just think if they launched a car like the 987.2 Spyder today with headline 176lbs saving etc .

911T and the Spyder 981 could Have been so much better, it’s a shame Porsche now use the halo models to less lesser stuff in the 1000's

 

[daro911]

"911T and the Spyder 981 could Have been so much better, it’s a shame Porsche now use the halo models to less lesser stuff in the 1000's "

Not to mention abusing the GT image with the detuned 3.8L found in the back of the GT4

At least the Spyder sounds the part and according to the lucky (or unlucky depending on your rose tinted glasses) few who own or have owned both detuned 3.8L models the convertible on sound alone is the one to own [8D]

Happy days

 

[MrDemon]

The same detuned engine you get in the Spyder you mean ! Which no one ever talks about !

not sure why people go on about the GT4 engine, the cars too fast in the Cayman line up and would be too fast 2 years ago with 420bhp. It laps faster than 2010 GT3 as it is..

i find it odd people are so blinkered, the 911T is a con imo. But they just sold 4000 cars in a week. The 981 Spyder cannot get any where near the 176lbs saving over the normal cars.

987.2 is an iconic car and brave to launch a car with a higher bhp/ton figure than a 911 of 2010.

the GT4 they had to peg due to lap times.

I did not get get 981 Spyder and I don’t get the 911T , rather have GTS models in both.

where the GT4 is the only ever Boxster or Cayman in its life time to have track adjustable suspension.

 

[legin]

Lets be honest you often dont get it.

Daro is having some fun with you and your 987.2 addiction and your GT4 with the ropey engine that doesnt sound so good.

 

[rob.kellock]

i find it odd people are so blinkered, the 911T is a con imo. But they just sold 4000 cars in a week.

David, you know that we get on very well in real life but you are sometimes guilty of promoting the cars that you personally prefer over those of others.

The new T follows a well worn pattern of greatness with a recipe this time that includes shorter gear ratios, thinner glass, weight saving, reduced sound proofing, Porsche torque vectoring, Sports exhaust, bespoke suspension (previously unavailable on the base model I think?) bespoke styling, a stripe up the side of the door and fabric door openers etc. all of which cost no more than a similarly specced base car but with added desirability.

Speculating as to whether it’s going to be any good or not is a bit pointless, they start building them in January and we’ll find out then.

As a car do 10k miles a year in, all special occasion or long journeys, it’s a recipe that I find very tasty indeed.

 

[daro911]

To avoid all the strain and stressing to get roof up after 18 months down - I shall force myself to try and leave it there until Spring has sprung

 

[daro911]

Any updates on the roof tearing tails saga? Seems to be dragging on and on now[]

 

[Boxster7]

Mine went into the OPC on Thursday, photos sent to Reading.

So now waiting for a response back.

I’ll keep you posted!!

 

[paul08]

Mine went into the OPC on Thursday, photos sent to Reading.

So now waiting for a response back.

I’ll keep you posted!!

I think the following is the current situation. I have not had any updates from 'stevemore' and 'legin' as to the situation with their cars' roofs

So, the current roof issue/situation update (REVISED 12th November 2017): (If people keep me informed, I will update this regularly) To date, info from/on 12 owners/cars Of those, 4 owners (33%) have found tears in their roofs:

[font="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"]paul08 (this is me!) - torn on one side/corner (7100 miles)- car booked in to PC Chester on 13th Nov’17, for fitting of a replacement roof[/font] legin - fraying visible on both sides Stevemore - torn on both sides - PC will repair Boxster7 - frayed on one side (14,000 miles). Photos taken by local PC and sent to Porsche GB. Awaiting response (as at 12/11/17) And these owners (66%) report no issues visible: daro911 Spyderdavid kitchens Andrew Killington Woodstock (1500 miles) SC50 (3500 miles) joeb - checked at PC Exeter, nothing found The yellow Spyder at PEC - believed to be rip-free

 

[Stevemore]

Hi my roof is being repaired next April by Porsche centre Tewksbury

Steve

 

[paul08]

So, the current roof issue/situation update (REVISED 12th November 2017 - version 2): (If people keep me informed, I will update this regularly) To date, info from/on 12 owners/cars Of those, 4 owners (33%) have found tears in their roofs: [font="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"]paul08 (this is me!) - torn on one side/corner (7100 miles)- car booked in to PC Chester on 13th Nov’17, for fitting of a replacement roof[/font] legin - fraying visible on both sides Stevemore - torn on both sides - PC Tewksbury will repair in April'18 Boxster7 - frayed on one side (14,000 miles). Photos taken by local PC and sent to Porsche GB. Awaiting response (as at 12/11/17) And these owners (66%) report no issues visible: daro911 Spyderdavid kitchens Andrew Killington Woodstock (1500 miles) SC50 (3500 miles) joeb - checked at PC Exeter, nothing found The yellow Spyder at PEC - believed to be rip-free

 

[philnotts99]

Hello Paul,

i will I’ll check mine for you this week.

cheers

Phil

 

[daro911]

Hi my roof is being repaired next April by Porsche centre Tewksbury

Steve

Have they actually said how they are going to repair the damaged areas [&:]

 

[paul08]

So, the current roof issue/situation update (REVISED 15th November 2017): (If people keep me informed, I will update this regularly) To date, info from/on 12 owners/cars Of those, 4 owners (33%) have found tears in their roofs: [font="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"]paul08 (this is me!) - torn on one side/corner (7100 miles)- car booked in to PC Chester on 13th Nov’17, for fitting of a replacement roof[/font] legin - fraying visible on both sides Stevemore - torn on both sides - PC Tewksbury will repair in April'18 Boxster7 - frayed on one side (14,000 miles). Local PC have offered to replace the roof. And these 8 owners (66%) report no issues visible: daro911 Spyderdavid kitchens Andrew Killington Woodstock (1500 miles) SC50 (3500 miles) joeb - checked at PC Exeter, nothing found The yellow Spyder at PEC - believed to be rip-free

Note: my car will (fingers crossed!) be returned later this week. I will try to ascertain if Porsche have changed the design in any way

 

[daro911]

Thanks for the update Paul and look forward to some clarity on exactly what Porsche are doing to rectify the situation for those affected today and those possibly affected at a future date [&:]

 

[paul08]

All

A quick update on my roof.

As you should be aware from my earlier posts, my car went into PC Chester last Monday (13/11/17) for them to fit a new roof, as my existing roof had a tear near the left-hand buttress. It was due to be returned either Thursday or Friday (16th or 17th Nov).

I had a phone call today to warn me that the job cannot be finished until early next week, as they have had "to order new/additional clips that have to come from Germany".

I went into the PC and spoke with both the Service Manager and with the 'Gold' Technician (Dean) who is carrying out the work. I found what they had to say very interesting. Apparently Porsche allow 5 hours to replace the Spyder's roof, and Dean has been working pretty much continuously on my car for 4 days and it is still not finished!!! They commented that the instructions that came with the roof were somewhat limited (I suppose that reflects the fact that the Spyder is a limited run car with only 2244 made, I believe). Fitting the roof is also further complicated by all the cables and tensioning wires that need re-fitting. But the biggest problem has been that the roof fabric is not just bolted/clipped/Velcroed into place. There are a large/significant number of rivets used, that have all had to be drilled out and then replaced once the new roof fabric is in place. These rivets are "unusually long" and my PC ran out of them and so had to order more from Germany . Hence the delay.

I had a look at the new roof that has been fitted and, certainly from what I saw, it would seem that the design has not changed from that fitted from new.

I made a point of highlighting the area where the roof fabric tears to Dean the technician, if only so that he could be aware of this when fitting the new roof in this high stress/tension area. He did comment that there did not seem to be much room for adjustment or easing the fitment of the fabric in this area.

I'll keep you posted of any firther developments.

But I would suggest that if any of you are having new roofs fitted by your PC, then you might be wise to suggest that they have a chat with PC Chester who can "mark their card".

 

[daro911]

Where's the 3rd radiator gone or is it a FLAT4 Turbo out back []

Should look even better when it takes its top off. [/h2]Last summer, Porsche reinvented its [link=https://www.motor1.com/porsche/718-boxster/]Boxster[/link] and Cayman sports cars with the revival of the 718 nameplate. The two vehicles, now 20 years out their initial conception, gained new flat-four turbocharged engines, updated styling cues throughout, and as recently as October, go-fast GTS versions. But even though the latest 718 Cayman and Boxster twins are just over a year old, already spy photos are showing an all-new version of the latter.

Our photographer recently caught up with a prototype for the 718 Boxster Spyder. Naturally it draws a number of similarities to the standard 718 on which its based, but there are a few defining features to note. Overall, the body appears to be far sleeker than the standard Boxster. The front grille adopts Porsche’s Sport Design look found on the GTS models, and the side profile is accented by new skirts and sporty wheels.

The standard convertible mechanism has been replaced for a speedster-styled low-slung canvas top that extends further out towards the rear. Though we don’t get to see what the Spyder variant looks like with the roof down yet, we can only imagine it’s even prettier than the standard version.

Considering the new [link=https://www.motor1.com/news/183962/most-expensive-porsche-boxster-gts/]Boxster GTS[/link] pumps out 365 horsepower (272 kilowatts), and the outgoing Boxster Spyder delivered 385 hp (279 kW), the new version should be somewhere closer to 400 (298 kW) if we’re lucky. It’s unclear whether the same 2.5-liter turbocharged boxer-four engine will carry over, or if Porsche will instead drop a more-powerful flat-six under the hood.

A six-speed manual gearbox is expected to come standard, while a quick-shifting PDK will likely be offered as an option. The new Spyder variant will be shown in just a few months alongside the [link=https://www.motor1.com/news/195689/porsche-718-cayman-gt4-spied/]Cayman GT4[/link], which we've also seen testing just outside of Porsche HQ recently.

Source: Automedia

 

[Boxster7]

Hope they’ve fixed the roof

 

[Gazoak]

I hope Chester make a better job of fitting your roof than a passenger leather seat cover that I noticed was damaged when collecting my car from new. They made such a hash of it and damaged some other trim panels in the process, they ended up swapping a seat from a Boxster demonstrator. Apparently I had their top trim technician on the job too. Good luck!

 

[daro911]

Hope they’ve fixed the roof

I don't think they feel there is a problem to fix[&:]