Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

[kitchens]

...do not like the PORSCHE script on the rear never have on the new 718 .

Front end different GTS but no mesh to protect the rads .Like the side skirts very Ferrari like (wash your mouth out ) but no front grill on bonnet ..like the rear with the exhausts split up and the new style Spyder wheels .

As noted no change to the sun cap ...would like to see it in the flesh before I hand over my cash and price any ideas ? my guess starting £65

 

[paul08]

Personally, as a 981 Spyder owner, I hope any new car is only a 4 cylinder engine, as this will protect the value of my car. Vested interest!!!

But it looks very similar to the 981 version

 

[daro911]

Where's the 3rd radiator gone or is it a FLAT4 Turbo out back []

Should look even better when it takes its top off. Last summer, Porsche reinvented its [link=https://www.motor1.com/porsche/718-boxster/]Boxster[/link] and Cayman sports cars with the revival of the 718 nameplate. The two vehicles, now 20 years out their initial conception, gained new flat-four turbocharged engines, updated styling cues throughout, and as recently as October, go-fast GTS versions. But even though the latest 718 Cayman and Boxster twins are just over a year old, already spy photos are showing an all-new version of the latter. Our photographer recently caught up with a prototype for the 718 Boxster Spyder. Naturally it draws a number of similarities to the standard 718 on which its based, but there are a few defining features to note. Overall, the body appears to be far sleeker than the standard Boxster. The front grille adopts Porsche’s Sport Design look found on the GTS models, and the side profile is accented by new skirts and sporty wheels.

The standard convertible mechanism has been replaced for a speedster-styled low-slung canvas top that extends further out towards the rear. Though we don’t get to see what the Spyder variant looks like with the roof down yet, we can only imagine it’s even prettier than the standard version.Considering the new [link=https://www.motor1.com/news/183962/most-expensive-porsche-boxster-gts/]Boxster GTS[/link] pumps out 365 horsepower (272 kilowatts), and the outgoing Boxster Spyder delivered 385 hp (279 kW), the new version should be somewhere closer to 400 (298 kW) if we’re lucky. It’s unclear whether the same 2.5-liter turbocharged boxer-four engine will carry over, or if Porsche will instead drop a more-powerful flat-six under the hood.A six-speed manual gearbox is expected to come standard, while a quick-shifting PDK will likely be offered as an option. The new Spyder variant will be shown in just a few months alongside the [link=https://www.motor1.com/news/195689/porsche-718-cayman-gt4-spied/]Cayman GT4[/link], which we've also seen testing just outside of Porsche HQ recently.Source: Automedia

Will it be a 4 pot turbo

Will it be offered as a pdk

Will it be at least 10% dearer list price as standard spec will certainly be much higher than the 981's

Porsche can see from used car prices what the market place is prepared to pay for the limited run out models despite being 2nd hand

 

[legin]

Just doesnt look as cohesive and dare I say pretty as a 981 imo but that assuming what it will actually look like. Is this a test mule or the finished article ?

 

[legin]

Paul, I feel like your taking one for the team on this for which Im grateful, seeing your car with such major surgery has got my attention for sure and hope it goes to plan.

Im increasingly thinking of going for a local homegrown reinforcement especially as the hood is unchanged so will it be back in the same state again.

Its a shame that your new hood cant be given to a trimmer for beefing up prior to fitting but opc will of course be hands tied on this. What it has shown me is that any local repair will have to be done in situ !

When does the warranty cover for this runout is it 2 years or 3 years as if I go for it I will hang on until the last minute I think

 

[daro911]

This Looks Like the New Porsche 718 Boxster Spyder

With rear humps like that, there's no mistaking it.

KGP SPY PHOTOGRAPHY

BY [link=http://www.roadandtrack.com/author/16371/brian-silvestro/]BRIAN SILVESTRO[/link] NOV 16, 2017 168 Ever since Porsche refreshed its mid-engine Boxster and Cayman range with [link=http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/a31106/porsche-718-test/]slightly new looks and brand new turbocharged engines[/link], we've been wondering when we'd see the top-tier Boxster Spyder and Cayman GT4 versions make an appearance. What looks to be a 718 GT4 [link=http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a13457117/porsche-718-cayman-gt4-instagram-spy-shot/]was spotted on Instagram last week[/link], and now, the new Boxster Spyder has been spied as well.

This 718 Boxster Spyder that was spotted recently has a host of different visual upgrades separating it from the [link=http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a32066/road-test-2017-porsche-718-boxster-s/]rest of the 718 range[/link]. Most noticeable are the signature dual rear body panel humps that sit over the engine behind the driver, featured on both prior generations of the Boxster Spyder. The clamshell is paired with the same semi-manual roof mechanism found [link=http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/news/a26869/the-first-drive-2016-porsche-boxster-spyder/]on the last-gen car[/link].Also worth noting are the more aggressive front bumper, big diffuser, dual exit exhaust, big brakes, and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires. This is one serious car.

One thing we can't see from the pictures is the engine. The last Boxster Spyder shared its 3.8-liter naturally aspirated flat-six and six-speed manual gearbox with the Cayman GT4. It's not clear whether this new car will stick with that formula, though there have been rumors that the next Cayman GT4 will be powered by [link=http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a32319/porsche-reportedly-planning-a-cayman-gt4-rs-with-a-massive-40-liter-engine/]a version of the 4.0 liter flat-six[/link] in the new 911 GT3. We'll have to wait for official confirmation to see if the Spyder gets a higher-output version of the Boxster's turbo four or if it gets a high-revving flat-six.

 

[spyder31]

The front spoiler looks rather underwhelming. Esp when compared to the 981 spyder GTesque style spoiler Do like the exhaust tho

 

[ScottishSpyder]

I doubt the front spoiler will make it to production and the rear valance conceals the real deal.

 

[philnotts99]

So, the current roof issue/situation update (REVISED 15th November 2017): (If people keep me informed, I will update this regularly) To date, info from/on 12 owners/cars Of those, 4 owners (33%) have found tears in their roofs: [font="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"]paul08 (this is me!) - torn on one side/corner (7100 miles)- car booked in to PC Chester on 13th Nov’17, for fitting of a replacement roof[/font] legin - fraying visible on both sides Stevemore - torn on both sides - PC Tewksbury will repair in April'18 Boxster7 - frayed on one side (14,000 miles). Local PC have offered to replace the roof. And these 8 owners (66%) report no issues visible: daro911 Spyderdavid kitchens Andrew Killington Woodstock (1500 miles) SC50 (3500 miles) joeb - checked at PC Exeter, nothing found The yellow Spyder at PEC - believed to be rip-free

Note: my car will (fingers crossed!) be returned later this week. I will try to ascertain if Porsche have changed the design in any way

Hello Paul,

Below are images of my Spyder. I cant see any actual tear marks but just loose thread.

Thanks,

Phil

 

[kitchens]

Looks like this is the finished article ... GT4 Wheels nice and MPS tyres nice. Not so nice the stick on PORSCHE letters that blight the newer cars ? can they be removed? See it is missing the grill on the bonnet and mesh rad grills . This combo on the 981 and GT4 make it a much nicer front end have said it before plant the rear end of the 987 and you have imo the best looking car .

[link=https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-porsche/new-718-boxster-spyder-pics/37117]https://www.pistonheads.c...ster-spyder-pics/37117[/link]

 

[daro911]

[link=https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-reviews/porsche]Porsche[/link] is developing the most driver-focused version of its current [link=https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/porsche/718-boxster]718 Boxster[/link] with the naturally aspirated, flat six engine of the latest [link=https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/porsche/911-gt3]911 GT3[/link]. The next Boxster Spyder, which will be heavily related to the 718 [link=https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/porsche/cayman-gt4-2015-2016]Cayman GT4[/link], will use a 4.0-litre engine in place of the current hottest 718’s turbocharged 2.5-litre flat four. Porsche Motorsport has stuck to the formula applied to the car’s predecessors, which have cemented [link=https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/porsche/boxster-spyder-2015-2016]themselves as the driver’s Boxster model since 2009,[/link] giving the car a more responsive drivetrain that will make it the most involving Boxster on sale. “Natural aspiration is one of our main USPs,” [link=https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/next-porsche-cayman-gt4-stick-naturally-aspirated-flat-six]Andreas Preuninger, head of GT car development at Porsche told Autocar earlier this year[/link]. “At Motorsport, we think we can achieve throttle response and immediacy a little bit better with an atmospheric high-revving engine than any kind of turbo.”

Output for the 4.0-litre unit is rated at 493bhp at 8250rpm in the 911 GT3, but the Boxster Spyder’s power may be slightly down on this in order to leave breathing space for its more expensive sibling. The previous Spyder used a 3.8-litre flat six taken from the 911 Carrera of the time that was good for 370bhp. [link=https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-la-motor-show/porsche-718-cayman-gts-and-boxster-gts-revealed-361bhp]The recently launched Boxster GTS and related Cayman GTS [/link]use highly-strung four-pot engines with 361bhp, so the new Spyder will need to produce more power to cement itself as the top Boxster. An output of around 425bhp seems likely. To signify its driver focus, the car will be offered with a six-speed manual gearbox as standard, but those after maximum on track performance will be able to select the option of a seven-speed PDK dual-clutch transmission.

The Spyder will also go on a hefty diet, ditching cabin insulation and even a radio and air conditioning. The 718 Boxster’s electric folding soft top will also go, in its place a manually removable ‘tent top’. These weight savings will combine with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 rubber to make the car the sharpest handling production Boxster yet produced. Much of the design treatment applied the Boxster Spyder will mirror those featured on the GTS. The Cayman GT4 will likely get the same adjustments, along with a more prominent rear wing to signify its even harder status. No arrival date for the Boxster Spyder has been set, but the recent reveal of the GTS suggests it could follow in the first half of 2018.

 

[philnotts99]

So who's changing up to the 718 if it is N/A engine?

 

[daro911]

So who's changing up to the 718 if it is N/A engine?

So who's changing up to the 718 if it is N/A engine?

Could be depends on how much my Spyder would be worth, postcode lottery securing one , and how much more expensive the 718 is going to be[8D] to a one off bespoke specification again [&:]

In theory it is of interest subject to the above caveats

 

[ted walker]

I was told by my local OPC yesterday that there will be no new GT4 BEFORE 2019 and that maybe the "new spyder" might be 4 cyl

 

[MrDemon]

I was told by my local OPC yesterday that there will be no new GT4 BEFORE 2019 and that maybe the "new spyder" might be 4 cyl

They don't know anything ;-) and nor do we, the rumors are click bait yesterday.

Date lines really do say a March 2019 launch, but people are in a frenzy for a March 2018 launch which I feel is optimistic.

A GT3 engine in a £70k car is hard to see unless prices goto £90k+ but then Porsche have no NA engine now ! so what do they use.

As a Boxster cost more than Caymans now, will the Spyder cost more than the GT4 this time !

 

[Andrew Killington]

Had first service and brake fluid change yesterday

OPC said they knew nothing about roof issue, nor anything about the next Spyder,

they gave me a free geo check (which I knew nothing about ) and my geo was out.

sort it out in the spring when car back on road

 

[philnotts99]

Now the Spyder has been put to bed for the winter, thought it may need some company! 991 3.4 PDK []

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Phil

 

[daro911]

Cracking pair you have there []

 

[paul08]

So, the current roof issue/situation update (REVISED 26th November 2017): (If people keep me informed, I will update this regularly) To date, info from/on 13 owners/cars Of those, 4 owners (31%) have found tears in their roofs: [font="verdana, geneva, sans-serif"]paul08 (this is me!) - torn on one side/corner (7100 miles)- roof fabric replaced by PC Chester in Nov’17[/font] legin - fraying visible on both sides Stevemore - torn on both sides - PC Tewksbury will repair in April'18 Boxster7 - frayed on one side (14,000 miles). Local PC have offered to replace the roof. And these 9 owners (69%) report no issues visible: daro911 Spyderdavid kitchens Andrew Killington Woodstock (1500 miles) SC50 (3500 miles) joeb - checked at PC Exeter, nothing found

philnotts99 (plus, the yellow Spyder at PEC Silverstone is believed to be rip-free) Update on my car:

My car, now with circa 7,500 miles, went into PC Chester for a replacement roof on 13th Nov. It was finally returned to me on 24th Nov'17.

Having chatted to both the Service Manager and the technician doing the work (Dean), the issues were:

a) The Porsche AG instructions on how to remove and replace the work were somewhat sketchy.

b) I believe that Porsche "allow" a total of 5 hours for the roof replacement. It took PC Chester probably at least 6 working days!

c) The main issue seems to have been that the fabric is attached to the car body with a substantial number of clips/rivets. The technician's guesstimate was that there must have been up to 200 of these. The Porsche AG instructions are that these need to be drilled out and replaced. Which is enough of a job. But this ignores the fact that many of these clips/rivets are into a box section, which means that the technician had his work cut out to ensure that the rivet-ends, left by drilling them out, do not fall into the box section and potentially rattle around later!

d) These clips/rivets are "extra long" and when PC Chester ran out of these fittings they had to order more in from Germany.

e) The technician also commented on the number or wires and tensioning cables that needed to be installed.

- I suppose that this is a reflection of the fact that the roof is certified up to the max spped of the Spyder (185 mph) and so will need some serious "holding in place".

f) There were also some problems with replacing a number of the clips/rivets, as the Porsche Instructions seem to suggest that these had to be made from the 'inside' of the box section

Looking at my replacement roof, the design seems to be exactly the same as my original roof. No changes at all. I had suggested to PC Chester that, to me at least, it seemed sensible to get a specialist to sew in some reinforcement around the area where the roofs are tearing, before the new roof fabric was fitted. Perhaps unsurprisingly, they felt unable to take up this suggestion.

I am happy with the work that PC Chester have done and they kept me informed on progress and were quick to apologise for the delay.

- PC Chester's Service Manager hopes that they never have to do another one, although the technician was more sanguine about it all.

But, if you do get offered a roof fabric replacement, I would suggest that you get your dealer to speak with PC Chester, as they may be able to pass on feedback from their work on my car.

And a final thought: I would suggest that you stick rigidly to the opening and closing methodology in the Owner's Manual. In addition, if the car is ever left with someone who may wish/need to open the roof, I will make doubly sure that I am happy that they know the correct sequence/methodology.

- the reason is that, having spent a lot of time looking at my roof, I do wonder about whether trying to lift the rear boot lid before the buttresses are unplugged may unduly stress the fabric. Perhaps? Perhaps not?

Anyway, happy motoring and do update me with info re your roofs

 

[daro911]

Thanks for the update Paul and I hope your new roof stays in one piece

I know its a production line but when I did my factory tour the roof was fitted to cars by a couple of assembly technicians in a matter of just minutes an the roof was fitted near the very last stages of production too

Seasons Greetings To All Spydermen and good chance Christmas day maybe warm enough for a topless pre dinner blast as long as its dry of course [8D]