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Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

daro911 said:
flat6 said:
Hello daro911. I haven't been on here for a while. Glad to see it's still going strong :)

Hi flat6 longtime away from here and as a founder member you are always welcome despite leaving our Spyder web :ROFLMAO:

Hope all is good with you and your Italian mistress and hopefully catch you at the up & coming Silverstone Classic [8D]

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Hi daro911

Yes i'm really enjoying going off piste (as in taking a one-off change from Porsche) and trying out this thrilling little 'Italian Mistress' as you put it lol :-D. It'll leave me open for a scathing attack, but i'll say a little about it :) Its opened my eyes to a different type of car, lightweight and unfiltered and makes me want to drive it every day. It's no Porsche but then it's not trying to be so that's good. There's many reviews against the more refined Cayman - it's not engineered like a Porsche and is not going to win track or street comparisons. It's not a Lotus alternative either. It's in a class of its own that for most, won't be of interest. I can't say there is logic in my purchase, purely lust :) Its the quickest car and most mechanical car i've experienced for sure. Such is it's power to weight ratio, it feels so quick over that initial inertia phase from low speeds or stationary as it launches forward with such brutal acceleration and equally braking is just as brutal. The unassisted steering rack is very quick; if you turn it a millimetre it is executed at the front wheels. You just have to remember the steering weights up when you scrub off a lot of speed. It rides really well for this type of car; I guess because the carbon fibre chassis is so stiff, they have not had to go overboard with stiffness in the suspension, yet it corners with what feels like no body roll. The steering feel is less communicative than I'm used to and coupled with such flat cornering, it took some time to tune into how the car is behaving because there is so much grip.

It took some courage to buy the car. I had driven one a few years ago and the steering was very tiring as it required steering input just to keep it straight as you fought against every ripple on the road tugging the car. But I was tempted again and my 2017 car doesn't have that problem. Courage too in that not many will buy an Alfa Romeo for 4C money, so i've no idea what i'll get for the car when its time to move on. But it was within budget and I needed to move the 997 turbo on. Anyone who's read my article on karting in the February '18 edition of Porsche Post will understand why I don't have a Porsche budget at the moment :) The Alfa brand struggles to transcend the bad reputation it earned decades ago. But i'm too young to have experienced the bad old days and the Alfa Romeo BT Blackline I had before my first Porsche was faultless, so for me it didn't put me off. With Porsche, the strong brand and engineering transcends a lot of the quite major mechanical and design issues that doesn't put me off either. So I decided, what the heck, let's go for it. There's no track record for an Alfa Romeo of this type, nor a Maserati, where the cars are hand built in Modena. I drive it hard, as you can see from the brake dust on the wheels. There's no other way to drive it. The engine is eager and the transmission doesn't want you to fall outside the surge for a second, so you just have to go with the flow and drive it hard as it is addictive. But it's just had its first service which it sailed through with nothing reported. Hoping that continues as I don't intend to give it an easy life!

But i'm really enjoying the experience. The noise, the looks, the acceleration, the grip, the brakes, looking in the rear view mirror and seeing the engine moving around on it's mounts; the astonishing amount of pleasant complements. I'll shut up now and promise not to mention the Italian Mistress again ;-)

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Good for you Flat6. No shame in owning an Alfa. I've owned two in my time. A 1966 Alfa Guilia 1600 Super, and an Alfa 1750 Bertone. Both were an enjoyable experience....before the demon rust took over. But let's not dwell on that.

As an Abarth 595 180 owner for the last 3 years I know exactly where you are coming from. Your Alfa looks great and it doesn't matter a jot what people think, just enjoy the car for what it is, a pure driving machine.

I also love my Abarth, which is a close sibling of your Alfa. The look on other driver's faces when they think they are being followed by a mere Fiat 500. Then I scoot past using the full 1.75 bar of turbo boost and disappear towards the horizon. It is an experience that gladdens my heart.

Enjoy!

Brian

 
Thanks Brian. That's good to hear :)

Very little to rust on this one. Carbon fibre tub, aluminium sub-frames, composite body panels ;-)

 
Great review flat6 and I can certainly feel you are enjoying every single mile in that lovely spec beast

Now the model is out of production, as a coupe, you may have to consider if she needs to be a longtime keeper for flat6 jnr to inherit someday [;)]

Don't forget they go and stop even quicker when cleaned & polished like a mirror :ROFLMAO:

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Thanks Daro. You're right, and I have no excuses as it came with this pack to get me started. I've used one. No excuse not to use them all :)

Junior thought I was mad, until it arrived. Managed the freak the racing driver out with the brakes super late lol. Then he kept badgering me to use the paddles. But he's accepted I don't add any value trying to swap cogs myself as its too quick for me lol! I am having a play with self shifting now though.

We can't make it to Silverstone Classic as we're racing that weekend, but we'll hopefully meet up once the season is over :)

As for Spyders, I see the values are holding up very well. Are you tempted by the coming 718 version? The cost to change might be minimal if you sell at the right time...

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flat6 said:
As for Spyders, I see the values are holding up very well. Are you tempted by the coming 718 version? The cost to change might be minimal if you sell at the right time...

I am always tempted but take the 987 Spyder I thought it would never be made again WRONG[&:]

981 Spyder thought it would be the last F6 version WRONG[&:]

718 Spyder always tempted but again main attraction would be is this finally the last of the n/a F6 models :ROFLMAO:

In the meantime I am really enjoying summer 2018 and have the perfect Porsche for me right now

 
daro911 said:
flat6 said:
As for Spyders, I see the values are holding up very well. Are you tempted by the coming 718 version? The cost to change might be minimal if you sell at the right time...

I am always tempted but take the 987 Spyder I thought it would never be made again WRONG[&:]

981 Spyder thought it would be the last F6 version WRONG[&:]

718 Spyder always tempted but again main attraction would be is this finally the last of the n/a F6 models :ROFLMAO:

In the meantime I am really enjoying summer 2018 and have the perfect Porsche for me right now
Good point. I think the Spyder is here to stay and with a flat 6 too as long as there's one somewhere in the range to borrow.

Yes this has been the best summer for you. Plenty of dry miles!

 
flat6 said:
I think the Spyder is here to stay and with a flat 6 too as long as there's one somewhere in the range to borrow.

Yes this has been the best summer for you. Plenty of dry miles!
All prepped & ready for the Classic next week but now the weather Gods after 48 straight dry days are conspiring against me & the Spyder [&:]

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daro911 said:
flat6 said:
I think the Spyder is here to stay and with a flat 6 too as long as there's one somewhere in the range to borrow.

Yes this has been the best summer for you. Plenty of dry miles!
All prepped & ready for the Classic next week but now the weather Gods after 48 straight dry days are conspiring against me & the Spyder [&:]

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She's a beauty. I hope the weather doesn't force missing Silverstone Classic.

I hope you've got her a place on the Club display stand this year :)

 
daro911 said:
All prepped & ready for the Classic next week but now the weather Gods after 48 straight dry days are conspiring against me & the Spyder [&:]

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Is that an umbrella fixed to the passenger seat?

 
engines run in at 10k miles and on a run like that it gets to temp nice

it does way more than my GT4 ever did !!!

I went to 85 mph a few times also, that's quite a high ave speed for a run out.

 
MrDemon said:
I know some of you have a light foot and not into trackdays

so beat this :) in the 3.8 33.2mpg

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Silverstone and back lots of road works, traffic and average speed cameras last year going to and from PEC I rarely got much above 60 mph and using cruise managed to return a whopping 34.8 mpg on a very tight engine under 2000 miles for sure

Even on a short fun filled "blast" today averaged 25.7mpg over a 30 mile run

 
Never seen that in the 3.8 and I drive with a light throttle ….on the 3.6 I get around 32/34 .Will see how it goes in the next couple of months in the 987 as putting it on the road for Aug/Sept only did 133 miles in it last year, to date has done 12145 since being registered in Sept 2011 [:(].The 981 is now sorned and doubt it will see the road until April 2019 cleaned and on charge up on bricks :ROFLMAO:

 
Spotted this morning - a red 981 Spyder heading northbound up the A1 just north of the M62 (Yorkshire). Was it anyone on here?

 

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