Cayman GT4: Where are we up to now?

[Motorhead]

ORIGINAL: flat6 Is that 200 cars for UK or worldwide?

A 200-car production run wouldn't go anywhere near covering the development and tooling costs 6. More likely that's the first year allocation for UK PCs. Let's hope Porsche doesn't limit production because, in these tight financial times, it'll become yet another "speculator special" and not find its way into the hands of true enthusiasts. Jeff

 

[ralphmusic]

Race and track day special Caymans are more popular in the USA than over here and perhaps the GT4 race version might look like this, albeit a 987 version but with a more subtle rear wing.

 

[Motorhead]

Yikes.! That looks like a really desperate attempt to increase rear downforce Ralph. Yes, Cayman tuning and racing seems to be very popular in the US. TPC Racing offer a Stage 1 Turbo Kit for 987.1 and 987.2 Caymans, the latter with a power output of 430hp; more with an air/coolant heat exchanger. Apparently, the stock suspension is more than capable of handling the addditional torque; but I don't think that you'd get Porsche to warranty the engine. Jeff

 

[MrDemon]

ORIGINAL: Motorhead

ORIGINAL: flat6 Is that 200 cars for UK or worldwide?

A 200-car production run wouldn't go anywhere near covering the development and tooling costs 6. More likely that's the first year allocation for UK PCs. Let's hope Porsche doesn't limit production because, in these tight financial times, it'll become yet another "speculator special" and not find its way into the hands of true enthusiasts. Jeff

200 uk cars over 2 years 100 for 2015 100 for 2016

 

[MrDemon]

ORIGINAL: spyderwhite

ORIGINAL: MrDemon 5th feb release date 65k 200 cars 3.6 375bhp Manual only.

All speculation gleaned from other websites at the moment!

No not speculation gleaned from other websites at all, but if you don't agree you will have to wait for Feb 5th/8th forget the date to the day.

 

[flat6]

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[MrDemon]

No, Porsche want to sell all the cars they have planned to make the numbers for the R and Spyder are worked out from past R and Spyder models. No good having cars you cannot shift and then take 15% off RRP to shift the last few like thy had too with the R. NO slap in the face to any one, just a good business model which is called planning ;-)

 

[spyderwhite]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon

ORIGINAL: Motorhead

ORIGINAL: flat6 Is that 200 cars for UK or worldwide?

200 uk cars over 2 years 100 for 2015 100 for 2016

Here we go again!someone in the know? on piston heads quoted only 45 arriving 2015! and others that dealers were getting only 2 cars each? More pure speculation

 

[spyderwhite]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon No, Porsche want to sell all the cars they have planned to make the numbers for the R and Spyder are worked out from past R and Spyder models. No good having cars you cannot shift and then take 15% off RRP to shift the last few like thy had too with the R. NO slap in the face to any one, just a good business model which is called planning ;-)

They can achieve this by building to order and not just flooding the market so a slow release late 2015 will achieve this if the car is any good

 

[MrDemon]

ORIGINAL: spyderwhite

ORIGINAL: MrDemon

ORIGINAL: Motorhead

ORIGINAL: flat6 Is that 200 cars for UK or worldwide?

200 uk cars over 2 years 100 for 2015 100 for 2016

Here we go again!someone in the know? on piston heads quoted only 45 arriving 2015! and others that dealers were getting only 2 cars each? More pure speculation

I would take a bet with you but don't want to take your money, let's revisit the thread in 3 months.

 

[Motorhead]

Apparently, Porsche made approximatley £15k operating profit per car in 2013, so a production run of 200 GT4s for the UK alone would yield ~£3m. More than sufficient profit worldwide to cover its own/supplier development as well as tooling costs [front and rear PUs, revised door panels and fascia, lightweight wheels, etc.] if Porsche raids its extensive parts bin. Jeff

 

[ralphmusic]

A US race car build that might be an analogue to a GT4 race version, except that this is a PDK gearbox car which as discussed earlier would not be used in GT4 race series.

The specification includes... ENGINE/DRIVETRAIN: 991 3.8L 400hp/325lb/ft Engine Conversion Guard Transmission PDK Limited Slip Differential with BGB Setup Aasco Motorsports Lightweight PDK Flywheel BGB Motorsports / RSS Motorsports Underdrive Pulley Kit BMC Air Filters Cargraphic Long-Tube Racing Manifolds with Sport Rear Silencer Seat (NO DRONE NO DRONE NO DRONE!) BRAKES/SUSPENSION: Hoosier GT Slicks (255FR/285R) Forgeline GA3R 18" Racing Wheels (9.5"FR / 11.0"R) RSS Tarmac Series Lower Control Arms RSS Tarmac Series Toe Link Kit Wevo Semi-Solid Front Engine Mount JRZ RS Pro Double Adjustable Coilovers 991 GT3 Front Sway Bar ITC 2014 Spec Carbon Fiber Splitter Techart Wing Base and Crawford 2013 IMSA Spec Wing Element SAFETY: BGB Motorsports 981 Motorsport Harness Bar Sparco Pro Adv Seat (2) OMP Racing Harnesses (2) GT3 Seat Sliders (2) Rennline 981 Tow Hooks MSI Racing Products Motorsport Wheel Studs and Lug Nuts MISC: Vision X Custom Graphics Package AIM Solo DL with SmartyCam Video Overlay The donor car was a $57.5K 2014 Cayman PDK 2.7. So one might postulate that a race GT4 could be based on a Cayman GTS with 3.8L Carrera S engine with either 400 or 430 hp, 991 S brakes, and given additional equipment as BMW have.

 

[spyderman]

ORIGINAL: ralphmusic SAFETY: BGB Motorsports 981 Motorsport Harness Bar Sparco Pro Adv Seat (2) OMP Racing Harnesses (2)

Harness bar? You mean to say they went to all that trouble and it doesn't even have a welded-in roll cage? What a waste of effort! Chris.

 

[ralphmusic]

I think you'll find it is a track day car.

 

[Motorhead]

If that's the case Ralph, the Yanks certainly take their track days seriously. Smart paint job. Jeff

 

[ralphmusic]

But the owner needs some more experience with the car and coaching https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wDkf3lVJ1Mk&feature=youtu.be

 

[spyderman]

ORIGINAL: ralphmusic But the owner needs some more experience with the car and coaching https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wDkf3lVJ1Mk&feature=youtu.be

Except that's not the owner driving.

 

[Motorhead]

Ralph, In fairness to the driver, he does say that it's not his car and was presumably just running a shakedown test after his outfit had built it. Looks to me as though he's running in auto mode. Jeff

 

[MrDemon]

I cannot watch PDK vids, it's so dull. I don't get why people build a PDK car for fun to do track days.

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon NO slap in the face to any one, just a good business model which is called planning ;-)

Just saying that it'll be good if the car is readily available, not in over-supply. If it's too limited then many of them end up in the hands of collectors and rarely get used and enjoyed as designed, like many a GT3 RS 4.0. Would be great for them to be made to order rather than Porsche try to estimate a per country allocation. I'd rather see a Cayman GT4 in the regular line-up rather than all the pomp and ceremony of it being a limited special that won't get much racing if collectors snap them up and complete one or two track days before deciding they can make a profit by not driving it and selling it on to the next collector.