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Cayman GT4: Where are we up to now?

ORIGINAL: spyderman
ORIGINAL: MrDemon 200 uk cars over 2 years 100 for 2015 100 for 2016
That would be the race version - no way would they make that few for the road.
Only 256 Cayman R's registered in uk over the 2 years they were available. Well over half were PDK
 
ORIGINAL: flat6
ORIGINAL: MrDemon NO slap in the face to any one, just a good business model which is called planning ;-)
Just saying that it'll be good if the car is readily available, not in over-supply. If it's too limited then many of them end up in the hands of collectors and rarely get used and enjoyed as designed, like many a GT3 RS 4.0. Would be great for them to be made to order rather than Porsche try to estimate a per country allocation. I'd rather see a Cayman GT4 in the regular line-up rather than all the pomp and ceremony of it being a limited special that won't get much racing if collectors snap them up and complete one or two track days before deciding they can make a profit by not driving it and selling it on to the next collector.
Totally agree 6. As I said earlier, and if MrD's insider information is correct, then the GT4 is destined to become a "speculator special" rather than making its way into the hands of true enthusiasts, which would be a great pity. But if demand outstrips supply significantly then perhaps the Porsche bean counters [prompted by their VAG masters?] will have a change of heart, especially if Cayman sales are flattening out or declining and there's some spare capacity. Jeff
 
ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan
ORIGINAL: spyderman
ORIGINAL: MrDemon 200 uk cars over 2 years 100 for 2015 100 for 2016
That would be the race version - no way would they make that few for the road.
Only 256 Cayman R's registered in uk over the 2 years they were available. Well over half were PDK
Yes, but the R was really a 987 run-out model Andy and wasn't restricted supply. I think Porsche had to discount the cars in the end to shift them with 987 production stopped for a year before the 981's introduction, so I suppose many potential buyers could have decided to hold off to see what the new car offered. Although the GT4 is likely to be a very different kettle of fish compared with the R, it's quite possible that Porsche are basing GT4/Spyder production figures on those of the last generation, as MrD has suggested. Jeff
 
ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan
ORIGINAL: spyderman
ORIGINAL: MrDemon 200 uk cars over 2 years 100 for 2015 100 for 2016
That would be the race version - no way would they make that few for the road.
Only 256 Cayman R's registered in uk over the 2 years they were available. Well over half were PDK
No it was only a 10 month production run whereas the spyder was an 18 month production run. 5000 cr worldwide and less than 2000 spyder world wide!
 
ORIGINAL: Motorhead
ORIGINAL: flat6
ORIGINAL: MrDemon NO slap in the face to any one, just a good business model which is called planning ;-)
Just saying that it'll be good if the car is readily available, not in over-supply. If it's too limited then many of them end up in the hands of collectors and rarely get used and enjoyed as designed, like many a GT3 RS 4.0. Would be great for them to be made to order rather than Porsche try to estimate a per country allocation. I'd rather see a Cayman GT4 in the regular line-up rather than all the pomp and ceremony of it being a limited special that won't get much racing if collectors snap them up and complete one or two track days before deciding they can make a profit by not driving it and selling it on to the next collector.
Totally agree 6. As I said earlier, and if MrD's insider information is correct, then the GT4 is destined to become a "speculator special" rather than making its way into the hands of true enthusiasts, which would be a great pity. But if demand outstrips supply significantly then perhaps the Porsche bean counters [prompted by their VAG masters?] will have a change of heart, especially if Cayman sales are flattening out or declining and there's some spare capacity. Jeff
200 is not a "speculator special" the GT3 RS 4.0 was with about 27 cars but 200 cars for the UK is not rare and imo only just about all sellable. The R is about 200 cars left in the UK they can be had 20k off list price although holding value now at £40k
 
I suspect 200 odd for the UK may be in the ball park, it would avoid the new stock discounts that occurred with the last Cayman R, support a higher base price and slow the depreciation rate. I guess the more people that lodge LoIs with OPCs the more Porsche will be encouraged to make just enough.
 
ORIGINAL: ralphmusic I suspect 200 odd for the UK may be in the ball park, it would avoid the new stock discounts that occurred with the last Cayman R, support a higher base price and slow the depreciation rate. I guess the more people that lodge LoIs with OPCs the more Porsche will be encouraged to make just enough.
Hence I was told there will be no problem getting a car!all depends if you want to be first or last!
 
ORIGINAL: MrDemon 200 is not a "speculator special" the GT3 RS 4.0 was with about 27 cars but 200 cars for the UK is not rare and imo only just about all sellable.
By restricting supply to 100 cars/year over 2 years MrD, the laws of supply and demand mean there are always going to be punters willing to pay over the odds to have a car when they're [comparatively] rare. And there will always be people willing to sell to them...at a price. If Porsche choose to drip-feed the cars to the PCs throughout the year, that's only going to make the cars that are out there even more desirable in the short term. Longer term I'd have to agree with you that prices may well not hold up, depending upon the length of the production run. Just my tuppence worth really. Jeff
 
true, I would like to keep mine for 2015 and sell it for 5k , more :) but are people going to over pay for a 65k Cayman when with options they will be more like 75/80k with nice spec or PCCB would you pay over the odds when a good spec car is already £80k cannot see it myself, but as I will be getting a early car lets hope you are right :) I guess if the GT3 markets all go above 100k people will start wanting Cayman R's and GT4 for less money.
 
Interesting conjecture....... So would anyone, sell a GT3 and buy a Cayman GT4.... That's my problem decision... Not enough details yet, but my deposit is safe. Cheers Charlie
 
ORIGINAL: spyderwhite
ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan
ORIGINAL: spyderman
ORIGINAL: MrDemon 200 uk cars over 2 years 100 for 2015 100 for 2016
That would be the race version - no way would they make that few for the road.
Only 256 Cayman R's registered in uk over the 2 years they were available. Well over half were PDK
No it was only a 10 month production run whereas the spyder was an 18 month production run. 5000 cr worldwide and less than 2000 spyder world wide!
I said "REGISTERED" not produced [;)]
 
ORIGINAL: Charlie McLaughlin Interesting conjecture....... So would anyone, sell a GT3 and buy a Cayman GT4.... That's my problem decision... Not enough details yet, but my deposit is safe. Cheers Charlie
I sold a 996 GT3 for a Cayman R and the best move i ever made The Cayman R has to be one of the best road cars at the price.[;)] Cliff.
 
ORIGINAL: MrDemon true, I would like to keep mine for 2015 and sell it for 5k , more :) but are people going to over pay for a 65k Cayman when with options they will be more like 75/80k with nice spec or PCCB would you pay over the odds when a good spec car is already £80k cannot see it myself, but as I will be getting a early car lets hope you are right :) I guess if the GT3 markets all go above 100k people will start wanting Cayman R's and GT4 for less money.
Hmm..! With savings and investments flatlining, the thought of having some fun with a GT4 for a year with the potential of even selling at its orginal asking price has its attractions. Now, where did I file that Porsche salesman's details.......? Jeff
 
ORIGINAL: CLIFFWILKINS
ORIGINAL: Charlie McLaughlin Interesting conjecture....... So would anyone, sell a GT3 and buy a Cayman GT4.... That's my problem decision... Not enough details yet, but my deposit is safe. Cheers Charlie
I sold a 996 GT3 for a Cayman R and the best move i ever made The Cayman R has to be one of the best road cars at the price.[;)]  Cliff.
I also did ;-)
 
Hi, I like what you are saying, but my 997.1 GT3 is more engaging than possibly a PDK GT4.... So the jury is out for the moment. As soon as specs are known, then I will be able to make that call.... Cheers Charlie
 
With limited availability, you may not be able to try before you buy a GT4 Charlie, so perhaps you should try a 981 S or GTS just to get a flavour of what you could be missing. Unfortunately, I doubt that you'll be able to find a manual demo car at the PCs - they're as rare as hen's teeth. Jeff
 
ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan
ORIGINAL: spyderwhite
ORIGINAL: Andy Fagan
ORIGINAL: spyderman
ORIGINAL: MrDemon 200 uk cars over 2 years 100 for 2015 100 for 2016
That would be the race version - no way would they make that few for the road.
Only 256 Cayman R's registered in uk over the 2 years they were available. Well over half were PDK
No it was only a 10 month production run whereas the spyder was an 18 month production run. 5000 cr worldwide and less than 2000 spyder world wide!
I said "REGISTERED" not produced [;)]
Sorry that will be still about a year then 5/11 to 4/12 production finished 2/12
 
Here are two versions of Cayman, a race version and a track day special which respectively might be Cup and GT4/RS analogues. Modifications on Cayman R base http://www.demanmotorsport.com/images/DeManCustomCayman.pdf A video discussion of the two versions (beware, one PDK and one manual but let's not go down that rat hole) https://www.youtube.com/embed/hXyaOgqhchw The Demans web site is www.http://demanmotorsport.com The black track day version specification looks very nice.
 

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