Jeff the PDLS does sound good. I like the idea of the switchable function for driving in Europe. Thanks Ian
Cayman GT4: Where are we up to now?
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A bit expensive Ian, but certainly worth considering for a high performance car I think. Just check that the switchable funtion for driving in Europe isn't only available with the PCM option. However, a 981 Cayman owner told me that there was no means of manually switching the standard bi-exenons and was told by his PC that no adjustment was necessary for driving on the Continent, which sounded rather strange to me. Probably best to check with your own PC. Jeff
Headlights are switchable from the PCM menu. The Option is 603 - Bi-Xenon + Dynamic Cornering Light I forget the sequence and don't have my car with me at the moment but I switched to continental and back to UK driving it when I first got the car.
These cars are heavy enough without adding all sorts of fripperies. I was unfortunate not to get into the final reckoning for a GT4... I don't know if it was because I was after a yellow car without stereo or a/c, but optional buckets and free 64L tank that put me back of the queue? [8D] A 64L upgrade is still a bit small for a car that will be used on track, are they expecting owners to short shift the long gears to improve economy? [
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Deleting the radio and a/c? Wow! that's really going to make massive inroads into the weight. Those extra 10-litres of fuel are not going to help much either [Porsche's published DIN weight will be based upon the 54-litre tank]. Just accept that it's designed to be a [fairly weighty] road car which can be used for track-days, rather than vice-versa. Sorry to hear that you didn't make the cut Paul. Maybe you're not a regular customer at the PC or there are a lot of 918 Spyder "premium customers" in your area who have first dibs. Jeff
A nice sentiment Paul but in my opinion the terms modern car and simplicity are mutually exclusive. Like it or not, the modern car is an electronic tour de force and adding one or two additional electronic components isn't really going to influence the reliablility index significantly, so you might just as well tick the option boxes and trust the component suppliers' QA departments. I'm not sure that something like a Caterham, which a very basic machine, guarantees reliability. Jeff
I must be exceptional then, just taken some one out in mine and boy the weight of a passenger is very telling. brakes were also getting well worked to a point of fade which never happens on my own with motul 660 and rs29 pads. But yes def far less to go wrong, AC always fails its a given that the condensers fail and the rads do. if you can knock 80kg out a car it's very very noticeable and that's when every little helps, only fill 1/2 tank fuel, take roof out, light weight battery, no AC , NO Radio the car not only feel alive, the braking is night and day.
Video from Nogaro Euro GT4 round of ProSport Performance 3.4L Cayman, not a Porsche GT4 and interesting on board... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmTXbLEU-r8#t=64 another video of it being dyno'd as part of custom tune process in Germany ahead of the race. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKmDj2vfbLk#t=11
The delays in GT4 production may be attributed to the fact that the facilities upgrade has been delayed and cars are still being produced on the old line...
Exceptionally bad at comprehending what was written maybe, was your passenger a cat or small dog? [
] I suggested 10-20kg of non rotational mass is hard to detect in a road car, you are talking about the weight of a passenger. 80kg is clearly very noticeable, but that wasn't the point being made at all!
A decent performance for a first time out Ralph, considering it included a stop-and-go for speeding in the pit lane. The fact that it's just a modded 981 S I think augers well for the proper GT4 when it arrives later this year. Note that they've chosen to use the PDK 'box: http://gt4series.com/prosport-performance-to-enter-gt4-european-series-with-porsche-981-cayman-sp/ Jeff
The issue is if you have PDK, AC, and a radio, speakers etc it's then very hard to offset all that weight, so you will never get to feel 80kg out the car. Add all the bits up I said in my post and the car feels night and day over my R which is fully loaded with toys.ORIGINAL: clubsportExceptionally bad at comprehending what was written maybe, was your passenger a cat or small dog? [
Seriously slow then [ORIGINAL: MrDemon Sport auto mag has posted a ring lap of 7.42 full lap in car with the GT4
] Top ten fastest Nurburgring lap times by production cars •Porsche 911 GT2 RS – 7:24s. ... •Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 – 7:22.68. ... •Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 – 7:19.63. ... •Donkervoort D8 RS – 7:14.89. ... •Lexus LFA Nurburgring Package – 7:14.64s. ... •Dodge Viper ACR – 7:12.13. ... •Gumpert Apollo Sport – 7:11.57s. ... •Nissan GT-R Nismo – 7:08.69s. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/86123/fastest-nurburgring-lap-times
I think the key figure and one which matters is the GT3 997.1 car of which people say buy a GT3 or a buy a GT4 for the same money. that car is also 7.42 with 410BHp now £80k the GT3 997.2 car is 7.40 with 430BHp. but they are now £120k So the 382BHp GT4 is not doing too bad for a £65k car.ORIGINAL: daro911Seriously slow then [ORIGINAL: MrDemon Sport auto mag has posted a ring lap of 7.42 full lap in car with the GT4
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