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Cayman GT4: Where are we up to now?
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MrDemon
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the GT4 is said to be 10k more base price than the GTS + options but you see a £55k GTS with X73 with buckets and leather with PCCB at £75k I am hoping for the 10k you get buckets and some form of X73 as standard. which might make a GT4 less than a optioned up GTS !!! the question I cannot get out of people is this "club sport pack" will there be one ? not long to waitORIGINAL: Motorhead Thanks for that MrD. If the GT4 is to be a track-focused car then additional suspension adjustability would be very welcome, as would a brake upgrade. All down to costs really. I suppose it depends upon the price hike Porsche are prepared to make over the GTS. Jeff
spyderwhite
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fbr
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Why is the "hop", that was easy to induce in 987, apparently better controlled/absent from the 981? FBRORIGINAL: MrDemon ....I have monoball RSS rear toe links (fully adjustable for toe) to stop rear brake steer and help reduce rear wheel hop the 987 seems to have...
Agreed MrD. I'd expect at least the X73 pack, perhaps something even more bespoke and adjustable [some hopes.!], together with LSD [Torque Vectoring option?] and active engine mounts too [Sport Chrono option?] and I can't see bucket seats not being fitted. And being such an expensive option, Porsche are always going to leave the choice of PCCB to the customer in this price band. Keep us posted on any "insider" info. JeffORIGINAL: MrDemonthe GT4 is said to be 10k more base price than the GTS + options but you see a £55k GTS with X73 with buckets and leather with PCCB at £75k I am hoping for the 10k you get buckets and some form of X73 as standard. which might make a GT4 less than a optioned up GTS !!! the question I cannot get out of people is this "club sport pack" will there be one ? not long to waitORIGINAL: Motorhead Thanks for that MrD. If the GT4 is to be a track-focused car then additional suspension adjustability would be very welcome, as would a brake upgrade. All down to costs really. I suppose it depends upon the price hike Porsche are prepared to make over the GTS. JeffI have a limit I will go too, to spec the car right as I will spec the CS pack if there is one. but I am hoping 75k all in with 10k options and fingers crossed it has 6 pots as standard. other wise I will stump up the the PCCB's, but for track I would like 6 pot steels to be standard on this car. Cars got to be speced hard core as you can spec the GTS with buckets and X73 and PDK so don't see the point specing a soft car when you can make a GTS like the old Cayman R with either gear box. if it's not to my liking my summer project will be a 997.2 GT3 with a 3 way passive set up and short final drive fitted while these cars are still just about 80k Or I might just keep the R as it has the best steering ever and spend 10k on it.
Just a thought but if GT4s are in such short supply, will you be able to try-before-buy in order to be able to make that decision? JeffORIGINAL: spyderwhite If the gt4 is nothing special for £80k a lot of people will be keeping their CR/ Spyders!
MrDemon
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you have to try hard to make it happen in a 987 imo, it's never happened on track ever for me and day to day it can be avoided. Only happens when giving it beans in the damp in very tight turns (right angles) at low speeds to get the rear to play and the wheels spinning. As it's the same basic design and I have seen people say it's still the same on the 981. Have you tried getting the rear wheels spinning with PSM off in the damp at right angles yet in your car ? Day to day you never see wheel hop, I fitted the toe links to stop rear brake steer as with the PCCB on the Spyder its brakes very very hard and the rear toe changes under this load.ORIGINAL: fbrWhy is the "hop", that was easy to induce in 987, apparently better controlled/absent from the 981? FBRORIGINAL: MrDemon ....I have monoball RSS rear toe links (fully adjustable for toe) to stop rear brake steer and help reduce rear wheel hop the 987 seems to have...
MrDemon
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I thought about deferring my Slot to a 2016 car and see what happens, but then if it is great I would have to wait another 12 months for it ! So if you want a 2015 car it's a bit of a blind leap. the order will only be a few days after the release date and cars are said to be here quite fast ie May. at the end of the day it's a GTS but with nice bits and 375BHp, the rest of the spec will be just great to have, a-LCA, cup2 tyres, buckets etc I am sure it will be great, the only thing puts me off the 981 GTS was the steering so I kept my R, the 375BHp is the big draw to me this time (but from a 3.6 not a 3.4)ORIGINAL: MotorheadJust a thought but if GT4s are in such short supply, will you be able to try-before-buy in order to be able to make that decision? JeffORIGINAL: spyderwhite If the gt4 is nothing special for £80k a lot of people will be keeping their CR/ Spyders!
MrDemon
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spyderwhite
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+1 I just want a more powerful cayman especially more mid range torque built more gt3 like than RS with no silly spoilers! A 3.8 CR would have been the answer to my prayers but alas only an extra 10 hp in the final 100 or so revsORIGINAL: chrisH Do you guys think the GT4 will offer these race only spec. items as part of the basic fit? I can't see queues forming to buy them unless it has Road tyres, Sport seats, Air Cond., Climate (optional), Radio and Sat/Nav. (optional) with the race bits as optional for track use, just like with the 991 GT3? Not all of us want a track car just a more powerful and focussed Cayman for road use without the bling.
A 3.8 engine I think you will get but how much of the GTS stick on bits remains to be seen. The large spoiler is to a large extent essential for downforce a la GT3. A manual box with a longer 6th gear would be an improvement unless its going to be a 7 speed box as rumoured but I don't think there's space with the mid engine.ORIGINAL: spyderwhite+1 I just want a more powerful cayman especially more mid range torque built more gt3 like than RS with no silly spoilers! A 3.8 CR would have been the answer to my prayers but alas only an extra 10 hp in the final 100 or so revsORIGINAL: chrisH Do you guys think the GT4 will offer these race only spec. items as part of the basic fit? I can't see queues forming to buy them unless it has Road tyres, Sport seats, Air Cond., Climate (optional), Radio and Sat/Nav. (optional) with the race bits as optional for track use, just like with the 991 GT3? Not all of us want a track car just a more powerful and focussed Cayman for road use without the bling.
Difficult to say Chris; I suppose that it depends upon the price point Porsche choose to use. The GT3's adjustable LCA and strut top plate would probably fit and are off the shelf, but similar rear suspension mods would have to be custom GT4 items. To keep the price down, Porsche could choose to offer them as part of a Clubsport option along with a roll cage and other race-oriented kit if they're really serious about taking the GT4 racing. Of course, Porsche could always adopt a more aggresive geometry set-up for the GT4 from the outset without recourse to such adjustable components. Like the CR, I would think that the GT4 showroom car will be kitted out with the bucket seats but with sports seats, aircon and radio as no-cost additions for those wanting a "comfort" pack for those planning road rather than track use.ORIGINAL: chrisH Do you guys think the GT4 will offer these race only spec. items as part of the basic fit? I can't see queues forming to buy them unless it has Road tyres, Sport seats, Air Cond., Climate (optional), Radio and Sat/Nav. (optional) with the race bits as optional for track use, just like with the 991 GT3? Not all of us want a track car just a more powerful and focussed Cayman for road use without the bling.
I'm sure they'll stick with the 6-speed manual for the time being. The 7-speed PDK 'box [on which the equivalent manual version is based] fits in the 981 chassis, so I can't see there being any problems. JeffORIGINAL: chrisH A 3.8 engine I think you will get but how much of the GTS stick on bits remains to be seen. The large spoiler is to a large extent essential for downforce a la GT3. A manual box with a longer 6th gear would be an improvement unless its going to be a 7 speed box as rumoured but I don't think there's space with the mid engine.
Chris_in_the_UK
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Ralph, you'll be back driving in no time and ready for the GT 4 launch in the New Year, all the best! ChrisORIGINAL: ralphmusic Car all wrapped up for Winter as I am having shoulder surgery Tuesday and can't drive for 6 - 8 weeks. [] Maybe I'll be able to make Goodwood's first 2015 track day which was on February 1 this year. It will be interesting to see whether all our expectations are met. I agree with an earlier post, without a significant power upgrade it is unlikely to be worth the cost of change. If it is not, I guess it will be the suspension upgrades above, 19" wheel and track-oriented tyres and TPC's 355 power upgrade.
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