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Dakota v River House

I think it's maybe time to draw a line under this and move, as Alison suggests, asking the question "what do the members want?" seems to me to be the logical next step (better late than never Alison?). I think the thread has been good as it has got a lot of things in the open and it's obvious that on the whole everyone has the best interests of the club at heart.
 
ORIGINAL: audirs2

Thats when they said one of the Hurdles was She may/ may not be a Member.
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Kims membership had only lapsed.....and it would seem that doesn't stop you re-joining to become RO.
 
the truth is and i have said this to alan face to face ,that alot of peoples noses were put out when he changed the venue without consulting them, 'them' being the regulars who attend the meetings both tue and thu.

other members who do not normally attend the regular meets may find the new venue or programme of events more interesting to attend, however there have always been many events throughout the years for them to show their face at, and having attended almost all events over the last 9 nine years, its not that often that you see many new faces, its the same old bunch or regulars, whom at present dont seem too happy !

but alan is RO and if he wishes to change things without consulting people then it looks like that is what he can do.

there alot of people making alot of noise about the change of venue and now members attending their own (club meet)? and avoiding the official one, none of which can be good for the club,

i would suggest that if people have real issue with what is happening in their club - they speak to alan or the club about it rather than bitch away on the forums.

i dont have an issue with stirling at all, but i think you will find that people wiill creep back to attending a tue and thu night for some food and a bit of banter, thats what they are used too and as attendences are normally quite good, that must be what they enjoy,

new evenings with talks on cars, sports, whatever, i think are good and do hopefully bring some new faces along and perhaps the new faces become regulars,

at the end of the day, people will make or break the meets by attending or not, and if there are more people at dakota on a thu than at the river house, then surely common sense will prevail.

there has been comments that Alan is only temporary RO, i asked alan in Feb if he was taking the RO's position and told that he was.
the assistant RO position was as far as i was aware Kennys' doesnt look like Kenny was asked if he wanted to step down as assistant RO before it was announced that Ash was the new RO - that did seem a little strange, also possibly why i havent seen Kenny in some time.

I considered offering to be the RO at that point but did not presently own a porsche and no matter what rules are there or not, to be organising events for porsche owners and not driving one myself would just seem stupid. (although couple of tests drives organised for new daily driver),

i missed the last club night as i was on holiday, but i will hopefully see everyone at the next meeting !

regards
scott.

 
Well, this is what I think..
Seemed not unreasonable to have a west & east meeting, the Tues Thu wasn't difficult to understand.
I personaly DONT want to eat and have a la di da time , a beer and occasionaly wicked banter was all that ticked my boxes for the last 20 YEARS.
I looked forward to occasional talks and felt a sense of duty to attend to avoid embarrasment for the speaker , and to support the RO, we also knew that Nov - Feb were poor attendance months but there is more to life..
When did this all change?
PCGB member since 1983
Mike
 
OK, I'll play "Ask the members....", I've never seen the programme is it on Channel Four or Disney Channel?

My tuppence worth,..as a recent member I was welcomed into the East meeting just by introducing myself and attending as often as I could thereafter. I attend the Dakota as it's nearer, easy to get to and I have an enjoyable night out with people with a common interest. I'm sure the same would apply if I had attended the Tuesday meeting in Glasgow. It can be daunting walking upto a new group of people and introducing yourself but we've all done things much more difficult.

I like the idea of events and spring runs etc and, whilst I can't attend everything I do my best to attend where I can like everyone else.

However, in my opinion the change to Stirling for the spring and summer months should not have to jeopordise the long standing arrangements in Glasgow and South Queensferry as, to my knowledge, Alan didn't attend any of these meetings around the time of putting himself forward as RO to gauge members preferences on meetings, events etc.
Had he attended I am sure we would not be in this current sea of discord however, it's happened and no matter how much we debate it we can't change it so, to me the logical thing to move it forward would be to have both.

Retain the Sherbrooke and Dakota nights and have the event night on another night in a different week of the month with all members voting on their preferred "event night".

This allows:-
  1. this debate to stop,
  2. those "new members" now attending the Riverhouse to continue attending a PCGB night,
  3. those who want to attend both can,
  4. those who want to attend the Glasgow or South Queensferry nights can still do so too.
  5. the RO and ARO can continue to organise events which will be attended by more members
  6. we will have 3 PCGB nights to choose from instead of one.
I'll copy and email Alan my "pitch" as he doesn't use the forum.

Does anyone disagree?

Cheers

Bill



 
ORIGINAL: BillMain

OK, I'll play "Ask the members....", I've never seen the programme is it on Channel Four or Disney Channel?

My tuppence worth,..as a recent member I was welcomed into the East meeting just by introducing myself and attending as often as I could thereafter. I attend the Dakota as it's nearer, easy to get to and I have an enjoyable night out with people with a common interest. I'm sure the same would apply if I had attended the Tuesday meeting in Glasgow. It can be daunting walking upto a new group of people and introducing yourself but we've all done things much more difficult.

I like the idea of events and spring runs etc and, whilst I can't attend everything I do my best to attend where I can like everyone else.

However, in my opinion the change to Stirling for the spring and summer months should not have to jeopordise the long standing arrangements in Glasgow and South Queensferry as, to my knowledge, Alan didn't attend any of these meetings around the time of putting himself forward as RO to gauge members preferences on meetings, events etc.
Had he attended I am sure we would not be in this current sea of discord however, it's happened and no matter how much we debate it we can't change it so, to me the logical thing to move it forward would be to have both.

Retain the Sherbrooke and Dakota nights and have the event night on another night in a different week of the month with all members voting on their preferred "event night".

This allows:-
  1. this debate to stop,
  2. those "new members" now attending the Riverhouse to continue attending a PCGB night,
  3. those who want to attend both can,
  4. those who want to attend the Glasgow or South Queensferry nights can still do so too.
  5. the RO and ARO can continue to organise events which will be attended by more members
  6. we will have 3 PCGB nights to choose from instead of one.

I'll copy and email Alan my "pitch" as he doesn't use the forum.

Does anyone disagree?

Cheers

Bill
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Bill agree entirely with what you just posted.

I remember going in as a "noob" all those years ago and just having to bite the bullet and say hi and I consider so many of you as a friend of mine. This is a sad sad situation that has arasin ( spelling?)

Lets once and for all get this sorted out.

Jane x
 
Bill, I echo every word, apart from my having recently joined in the West and been made welcome in the Sherbrooke. I believe there's a place for monthly events as well as the informal get-togethers, as long as we can schedule the events for, say, the second half of the month. What we don't want is to end up with breakaway groups. They happen only too easily. As others have said, consultation is the key. We could trial the system and review at the end of the summer/autumn/year.

I'm not sure why Alan doesn't use the forum, but if it's because not everyone chooses to use it so it's not "all informed", that's fair enough. I shall copy this to him by email.
 
ORIGINAL: BillMain

Retain the Sherbrooke and Dakota nights and have the event night on another night in a different week of the month with all members voting on their preferred "event night"
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Which after 3 pages of huff and puff brings us neatly back to the point I was making in the beginning.

[;)]
 
John,

I agree, but as Alan doesn't use the forum you will get three pages and more of it. That's why I copied my post to him and will contact him to try and move this forward to a successful conclusion.

Cheers

Bill
 
I agree with what Bill says too. Maybe this whole thread should be sent to Alan so he can gauge for himself everyone's feelings on the matter.

With a bit of luck and 'herding of cats' maybe this will be resolved SOON???!!![:D]

Kim x
 
mike,

no better response than that !

had better opinions from people that dont even attend the meets ! :)

see you next tuesday meet if K lets you out ! [:)]

sx
 
Alan has referred me to the PP article.
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Not renewing my membership. Will probably buy a TVR.

Dakota on 5th June.

Bill
 
I suggest you contact Chris Clark if you have concerns about the leadership of Region 1

I'll be at Dakota as usual but I feel it is time to formalise our displeasure.

It is the interests of the regular members of R1 old "Mugabe" should be looking after not his own.

Charles
 
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