Life on the Dark Side

[blueSL]

Thanks Clive, I was searching under "prybar"... I will give them a try.

All four hubs are the same with the arrows in the same direction, unlike the Carrera GT which used different coloured nuts for left and right. I assume the torque is transmitted to the wheel through the red studs so there's no tendency for the nut to come undone with the hub lock in addition. I saw mention of this being linked to the car central locking to prevent wheel theft, though how I do not know.

Interestingly though, there are two part numbers on the nuts - 997 361 181 05 and 997 361 081 05, not sure what the difference will be.

Ordered the replacement centre cap from the dealer - £27 and, for future reference, the centre nuts are £160, both including VAT.

 

[Lancerlot]

ORIGINAL: bobfair
They are handed Clive so you have to be careful on whether you are doing up or undoing

ORIGINAL: blueSL
All four hubs are the same with the arrows in the same direction, unlike the Carrera GT which used different coloured nuts for left and right.

Now I am confused, guys! [&:]

Regards,

Clive

 

[bobfair]

Clive

Sorry I was wrong (too much haste). All four wheel nuts are removed by turning anticlockwise as you look at them and done up by turning clockwise

 

[fireblade]

ORIGINAL: drmark

ORIGINAL: Sandy59

On the Gen 1 car with PCCB's Porsche supplied 2 x aluminium 'dowel guides' which screwed into 2 of the bolt holes, this was to prevent the wheel from contacting the edge of the disk when removing the wheel, which could potentially cause damage to the disk. Is there any provision for this with these new wheels, or do you just have to be really really careful ??
Thanks,
Sandy

Don't all Porsches have these - mine do?

Nope, I didn't get any with the 997 Turbo but bought a pair as I had found them invaluable with my 996C4S and in fact I doubt I could have put a rear back without them!

As you don't get a jack or wheel wrench nor a spare tyre (the C4S did) I suppose Porsche think that you don't need them but I do like to completely clean my wheels now and again.

 

[bobfair]

A few more "Dark Side" pictures for you guys to ponder

Roll on April when the harnesses go in and the first of 7 track days commence.

Castlle Coombe
Goodwood
Silverstone * 3
Ring
Spa

Lightweight and normal aspiration is the way forward!!

 

[tscaptain]

ORIGINAL: bobfair


Lightweight and normal aspiration is the way forward!!

Is that the car, the driver or both Bob?[]

 

[bobfair]

Both.

I am going to the Gym to get in shape for the season but strangely seem to be putting weight on!!

Alan I can see your grin from Dorset so assume you are loving it in that sea of Red

 

[tscaptain]

ORIGINAL: bobfair

Both.

I am going to the Gym to get in shape for the season but strangely seem to be putting weight on!!

Alan I can see your grin from Dorset so assume you are loving it in that sea of Red

That'll be the old "muscle is denser and heavier than fat" business! And the Red Sea is rather splendid, thanks!!

 

[okellyt]

ORIGINAL: bobfair

A few more "Dark Side" pictures for you guys to ponder

Roll on April when the harnesses go in and the first of 7 track days commence.

Castlle Coombe
Goodwood
Silverstone * 3
Ring
Spa

Lightweight and normal aspiration is the way forward!!

 

[Lancerlot]

ORIGINAL: blueSL

Thanks Clive, I was searching under "prybar"... I will give them a try.......
Ordered the replacement centre cap from the dealer - £27 and, for future reference, the centre nuts are £160, both including VAT.

An alternative to prising the centre cap out of the hub, you could drill a 3mm hole in the cap and use a wire hook to remove it. [8|]

Regards,

Clive

 

[blueSL]

Thanks for the suggestion. There's an o-ring on the back of the cap to seal the space in front of the centre lock (which is what makes them difficult to remove), so the hole couldn't be there permanently. It might be correct though to think of them as a consumable to protect the finish of the centre bolts and drill the holes to remove and discard.

It's possible the GT3 caps will be less expensive than the turbo caps because there's no Porsche crest but whoever said Porsche parts pricing was ever logical?

 

[blueSL]

For those with centre lock wheels and PCCB, ask you dealer for a copy of the service bulletin WM 440519. This shows an assembly aid which screws into the centre hub to allow the wheel to be fitted without striking the brake disc. It looks to be a tapered tube about 10 inches long. Part no 000 721 979 40, the socket wrench itself supplied with the car is 000 721 979 60. Might be useful for those of us with standard brakes as well. Don't have a price for it.

The service bulletin goes into great detail about how to remove and fit the wheel, basically a re-hash of the owners manual. As for removing the centre cap, it says no more than using a screwdriver with tape wrapped around it. I'm waiting for the Sealey tools to be delivered to see if we can come up with a better solution.

 

[jbm]

Hi Bob, I see you mentioned that you're planning track days at Spa and the Ring - could I ask if those are with a track day company and if so which one? Many thanks, John

 

[bobfair]

When I last went to Spa I booked with Autotrack but they have stopped trading so not possible this year. This is my old Gen 1 Turbo going through Eau Rouge

In my opinion Spa is a wonderful circuit and the best there is so well worth the effort and cost as it is memorable. The Ring however is a different story. To start with its over 14 miles with over 70 corners so very difficult to learn but still a fabulous piece of road.

There are a number of organisers who run track days at Spa. The 964 RS boys are going in April with the local Porsche club. I have booked with RMA

http://www.rmatrackdays.com/?id=home

You could also take a look at

http://www.rsrnurburg.com/

The guy who runs RSR is Ron Simons

There arn't many official track days at the ring but you can go on the public days (touristenfahrten) if you dont mind sharing the track with bikes. The experience at the Ring is pretty intense so make sure you are ready for that. There are some great driving roads around it and of course there are also the unregulated autobahns where you can achieve high speed. Last time I went I stayed at over 150 for 15 miles and touched 180. Wonderful experience but you start thinking about what a crash would be like at that speed.

http://www.nuerburgring.de/en/nuerburgring-race-track/hours-of-operation-nordschleife.html?no_cache=1

Hope that helps

 

[bobfair]

Mark

Thanks for the tip about the service bulletin which I now have a copy of in word format but without any photos. I asked my OPC for a price for the wheel changing aid 9794 AND wait for it!!

£464

OUCH

Still much cheaper than a cracked ceramic disc though. To add insult my GT 3 came with two of the standard aluminium pin changing aids that are great for a 5 stud wheel but useless for a single bolt set up

 

[jbm]

Hi Bob,

Thanks very much for the Spa and Ring info - I'd heard about Autotrack stopping trading so it's good to hear that there are other companies offering track days there (my interest in company-organised days is that my insurer (Manning) will cover them, whereas if I do the Ring on a public day I have to take my chances!)

Thanks again and delighted to see all the details on your lovely car

All the best, John

 

[bobfair]

No problem John I am with Manning as well so in same position. If you do the Ring you will probably drive it like being on a road with nothing coming the other way as it is intimidating first time out. I am happy to let people pass as there are lots out there faster than me. The blind brows get me when you cant remember if the road goes right straight on or left after the brow. Also beware of road condition changes. One side of the circuit can be dry with loads of grip you go round a corner and it can be wet and slippery!!

These videos give you a good idea of what its like:

A 7.15 minute in a GT 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAxmOvwRZlI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E93ag4Rp-Gg&feature=related

Notice how Walter starts his lap on a very wet and slippery road and then it goes dry!!

 

[Sandy59]

ORIGINAL: Lancerlot

ORIGINAL: Sandy59
...... Also noticed the folding ones definitely didn't go back as far as the LW's, so a bit less legroom.
I need to decide myself soon, would like the folding ones, but also need max legroom !!

They will go back as far as the roll cage will allow! []
Regards,

Clive

Good point. On that note does anyone know (Bob ??) if the folding buckets touch the cage when in the fully back position, or is there scope to reposition the rails to get the seats further back ??

Thanks,
Sandy

 

[Lancerlot]

ORIGINAL: Sandy59
Good point. On that note does anyone know (Bob ??) if the folding buckets touch the cage when in the fully back position, or is there scope to reposition the rails to get the seats further back ??
Thanks,
Sandy

On my GT2 (and I assume GT3 will be the same) the seat will go back as far as the roll cage and the back rest will actually touch it when occupied.
I placed a transparent rubbing strip on the cage to protect the c/f panel.
The "ears" of the seat are too wide to go past the cage.
Regards,
Clive

 

[Sandy59]

Thanks Clive, as you say chances are both will be the same.