My 2022 Cayman GTS

[Wollemi]

Couple of things I have noticed which are very different to the 981 are that the water / oil temp numbers increase unrealistically fast. On the 981 it used to take about 10 miles/25 mins for the water / oil temp to be in the 90's whereas on my GTS they get up into the 70's/80's after about 10 mins and are not in line with the blue graphic, which indicates a lower temp. I'm taking it back to the dealer for this to be checked as it doesn't seem right to me. Temps are totally stable once they reach operating temperature.

The new 4.0 heats up quicker and runs hotter than the 981. Totally normal.

Possibly interestingly my PDK GTS4.0 takes a lot longer to come up to full working oil temperature than my previous manual GTS4.0. About twice as long in fact, and this is even if I use the devil‘s gearbox in manual mode keeping the revs higher than the normal auto setting would do

Apologies as off topic, but Graham really interested in your move from a manual to PDK GTS 4.0 as I'm thinking of doing the same. If you don't mind me asking what was your situation/motivation for changing and what are your thoughts on the switch from manual to PDK? Thanks Kerry

Couple of things I have noticed which are very different to the 981 are that the water / oil temp numbers increase unrealistically fast. On the 981 it used to take about 10 miles/25 mins for the water / oil temp to be in the 90's whereas on my GTS they get up into the 70's/80's after about 10 mins and are not in line with the blue graphic, which indicates a lower temp. I'm taking it back to the dealer for this to be checked as it doesn't seem right to me. Temps are totally stable once they reach operating temperature.

The new 4.0 heats up quicker and runs hotter than the 981. Totally normal.

Possibly interestingly my PDK GTS4.0 takes a lot longer to come up to full working oil temperature than my previous manual GTS4.0. About twice as long in fact, and this is even if I use the devil‘s gearbox in manual mode keeping the revs higher than the normal auto setting would do

Apologies as off topic, but Graham really interested in your move from a manual to PDK GTS 4.0 as I'm thinking of doing the same. If you don't mind me asking what was your situation/motivation for changing and what are your thoughts on the switch from manual to PDK? Thanks Kerry

Hi Kerry - it was necessity rather than choice. My beautiful and, to me perfectly specified GTS4.0 which I finally got in July 2020 after ordering it on the day they announced the model came to a tragic end and was written off in November 2021, after 10.5k brilliant miles. To replace it I either had to buy used for for more than the cost when new, and no cars available were anything like the spec I wanted, so face a 2+ year wait. So when I got the chance to buy the only available new GTS4.0 in the UK I jumped at the chance, but of course this was car dealer specified. I was unconvinced by PDK, despite doing 1500 miles in a PDK 718S courtesy of Lockton’s after my cars sad end but I went for it anyway. I haven’t made my mind up yet. Some days I think yes, other days I yearn for the involvement and feel of changing gear myself. My new car is only two thirds run in, so I‘m going to suspend judgement until I can use all the revs. Another 600 miles to go.

 

[Scrounger]

Folks

this really isn’t the thread to discuss why you changed from a manual to a PDK. If you’d like to discuss that please start a new thread. That discussion is irrelevant to this thread as I now drive a PDK and have ordered a PDK. I’ve never had a 981 so again the discussion is irrelevant.

Sorry for the rant but I don’t see anyone else’s thread being high jacked for off topic discussions.

Apologies again.

Dan.

 

[Wollemi]

I'm sorry Dan if my part in de-railing the thread you started has annoyed you.

But at the risk of annoying you further (which in no way is my intention), you may have started the thread but once started, it takes on a life of its own; it's no longer "your thread". You can certainly see many many other threads which have ended up talking about things completely different to that which they started about. That's one of the joys of such forums.

You can always attempt to bring it back to original topic by posting something interesting / amusing about the original topic you want to talk about.

 

[Scrounger]

So we’re on the home straight. The car arrived at Grimsby on the Neckar Highway this morning. If the logistics company pull their finger out, it could be at the dealership next week.

Dan

 

[Tetris Keyring]

Couple of things I have noticed which are very different to the 981 are that the water / oil temp numbers increase unrealistically fast. On the 981 it used to take about 10 miles/25 mins for the water / oil temp to be in the 90's whereas on my GTS they get up into the 70's/80's after about 10 mins and are not in line with the blue graphic, which indicates a lower temp. I'm taking it back to the dealer for this to be checked as it doesn't seem right to me. Temps are totally stable once they reach operating temperature.

The new 4.0 heats up quicker and runs hotter than the 981. Totally normal.

Possibly interestingly my PDK GTS4.0 takes a lot longer to come up to full working oil temperature than my previous manual GTS4.0. About twice as long in fact, and this is even if I use the devil‘s gearbox in manual mode keeping the revs higher than the normal auto setting would do

Apologies as off topic, but Graham really interested in your move from a manual to PDK GTS 4.0 as I'm thinking of doing the same. If you don't mind me asking what was your situation/motivation for changing and what are your thoughts on the switch from manual to PDK? Thanks Kerry

Couple of things I have noticed which are very different to the 981 are that the water / oil temp numbers increase unrealistically fast. On the 981 it used to take about 10 miles/25 mins for the water / oil temp to be in the 90's whereas on my GTS they get up into the 70's/80's after about 10 mins and are not in line with the blue graphic, which indicates a lower temp. I'm taking it back to the dealer for this to be checked as it doesn't seem right to me. Temps are totally stable once they reach operating temperature.

The new 4.0 heats up quicker and runs hotter than the 981. Totally normal.

Possibly interestingly my PDK GTS4.0 takes a lot longer to come up to full working oil temperature than my previous manual GTS4.0. About twice as long in fact, and this is even if I use the devil‘s gearbox in manual mode keeping the revs higher than the normal auto setting would do

Apologies as off topic, but Graham really interested in your move from a manual to PDK GTS 4.0 as I'm thinking of doing the same. If you don't mind me asking what was your situation/motivation for changing and what are your thoughts on the switch from manual to PDK? Thanks Kerry

Hi Kerry - it was necessity rather than choice. My beautiful and, to me perfectly specified GTS4.0 which I finally got in July 2020 after ordering it on the day they announced the model came to a tragic end and was written off in November 2021, after 10.5k brilliant miles. To replace it I either had to buy used for for more than the cost when new, and no cars available were anything like the spec I wanted, so face a 2+ year wait. So when I got the chance to buy the only available new GTS4.0 in the UK I jumped at the chance, but of course this was car dealer specified. I was unconvinced by PDK, despite doing 1500 miles in a PDK 718S courtesy of Lockton’s after my cars sad end but I went for it anyway. I haven’t made my mind up yet. Some days I think yes, other days I yearn for the involvement and feel of changing gear myself. My new car is only two thirds run in, so I‘m going to suspend judgement until I can use all the revs. Another 600 miles to go.

Really sorry to hear about the write off Graham. A tragic experience. Thanks for the insight. Once you get past break-in and have the chance to really explore it been keen to see if it settles your view either way

 

[Jhemus]

Couple of things I have noticed which are very different to the 981 are that the water / oil temp numbers increase unrealistically fast. On the 981 it used to take about 10 miles/25 mins for the water / oil temp to be in the 90's whereas on my GTS they get up into the 70's/80's after about 10 mins and are not in line with the blue graphic, which indicates a lower temp. I'm taking it back to the dealer for this to be checked as it doesn't seem right to me. Temps are totally stable once they reach operating temperature.

The new 4.0 heats up quicker and runs hotter than the 981. Totally normal.

Possibly interestingly my PDK GTS4.0 takes a lot longer to come up to full working oil temperature than my previous manual GTS4.0. About twice as long in fact, and this is even if I use the devil‘s gearbox in manual mode keeping the revs higher than the normal auto setting would do

Apologies as off topic, but Graham really interested in your move from a manual to PDK GTS 4.0 as I'm thinking of doing the same. If you don't mind me asking what was your situation/motivation for changing and what are your thoughts on the switch from manual to PDK? Thanks Kerry

Couple of things I have noticed which are very different to the 981 are that the water / oil temp numbers increase unrealistically fast. On the 981 it used to take about 10 miles/25 mins for the water / oil temp to be in the 90's whereas on my GTS they get up into the 70's/80's after about 10 mins and are not in line with the blue graphic, which indicates a lower temp. I'm taking it back to the dealer for this to be checked as it doesn't seem right to me. Temps are totally stable once they reach operating temperature.

The new 4.0 heats up quicker and runs hotter than the 981. Totally normal.

Possibly interestingly my PDK GTS4.0 takes a lot longer to come up to full working oil temperature than my previous manual GTS4.0. About twice as long in fact, and this is even if I use the devil‘s gearbox in manual mode keeping the revs higher than the normal auto setting would do

Apologies as off topic, but Graham really interested in your move from a manual to PDK GTS 4.0 as I'm thinking of doing the same. If you don't mind me asking what was your situation/motivation for changing and what are your thoughts on the switch from manual to PDK? Thanks Kerry

Hi Kerry - it was necessity rather than choice. My beautiful and, to me perfectly specified GTS4.0 which I finally got in July 2020 after ordering it on the day they announced the model came to a tragic end and was written off in November 2021, after 10.5k brilliant miles. To replace it I either had to buy used for for more than the cost when new, and no cars available were anything like the spec I wanted, so face a 2+ year wait. So when I got the chance to buy the only available new GTS4.0 in the UK I jumped at the chance, but of course this was car dealer specified. I was unconvinced by PDK, despite doing 1500 miles in a PDK 718S courtesy of Lockton’s after my cars sad end but I went for it anyway. I haven’t made my mind up yet. Some days I think yes, other days I yearn for the involvement and feel of changing gear myself. My new car is only two thirds run in, so I‘m going to suspend judgement until I can use all the revs. Another 600 miles to go.

Really sorry to hear about the write off Graham. A tragic experience. Thanks for the insight. Once you get past break-in and have the chance to really explore it been keen to see if it settles your view either way

Likewise - it would be great to hear a view from someone who has experienced both.

 

[Scrounger]

Not on this thread if you wouldn’t mind!![]

 

[Wollemi]

So we’re on the home straight. The car arrived at Grimsby on the Neckar Highway this morning. If the logistics company pull their finger out, it could be at the dealership next week.

Dan

So Dan, you are nearly there now, and your excitement must be building to fever pitch. I hope that the dealership don’t take too long to process it once it arrives. It’s intensely frustrating to know that it is there and waiting for you and yet you still can’t have it.

I thought you might appreciate some thoughts on how to run it in, with a pdk gearbox. The manual says no more than 4,000 rpm for 1865 miles (3k km) but also to avoid low revs when the engine is cold. Also to avoid short journeys.

Clearly it’s advantageous to get the engine warmed up quickly. All other things being equal the engine warms up faster in normal mode, as the oil intercooler is bypassed, so it should be better to use this mode until the engine is a working temperature. (Over 100° oil temp). No problem in a manual, I used to keep revs between 2,300 and 2,800 until warm

But a pdk in normal will often have you running at not much more that 1,200rpm. So do you put it into Sport, with slower warm up as the oil intercooler is active. Even then in traffic it will have you using very low engine speeds. I tended to put the box into manual even though it felt quite artificial to do so In traffic situations. I found it felt better to change gear with the shifter rather than the paddles in such circumstances, although for me this was fraught with danger as the shifter works the opposite way to that in my other car.

There is also the “hazard“ when driving in any of the auto modes that if you put you foot down to overtake, care has to taken or the box drops several cogs and shoots you well over the 4k limit.

i shall certainly be glad when I get over the magic 1865 mark!

At least you will be getting your car when the weather is more conducive to applying yourself and getting the running in over and done with than it was for me getting this car in mid December. I managed to run in my first GTS4.0 in just four weeks in the summer of 2020.

I’m looking forward to seeing your long awaited car photos, and even better see it for real perhaps.

Graham

 

[Scrounger]

Thanks Graham. Not too dissimilar to the break in on my current car albeit a 2.0 Base.

Pictures will be plenty when it arrives.

Dan

 

[Wollemi]

Thanks Graham. Not too dissimilar to the break in on my current car albeit a 2.0 Base.

Pictures will be plenty when it arrives.

Dan

The running in procedure is exactly the same for all models I understand. Certainly the same for all 718s inc GT4 / Spyder.

Although Porsche choose to hide it within the “Same Driving Pleasure, Mores Safety” section at the front of the handbook. There‘s no index entry for running in, (or even break in in the US)

 

[Scrounger]

So even though my car is currently sat at Grimsby, the ‘My PORSCHE‘ app and build status have been updated and are now showing these.

 

[AB2012]

Looks good on silver wheels.

 

[Martin_Davis]

So even though my car is currently sat at Grimsby, the ‘My PORSCHE‘ app and build status have been updated and are now showing these.

It looks fabulous Dan, you’re nearly there...

I‘m looking forward to seeing it in the metal!

 

[Neil Chadwick]

Does anyone know if you can obtain these images without the app? I can't install it due to my location.

Apologies for going off topic again.

Neil

 

[Scrounger]

You can also get them if you log in to the My PORSCHE web page.

Dan.

 

[Neil Chadwick]

Thanks Dan.

 

[Ryan9729]

That looks really good Dan, got me questioning whether I do actually go for the gloss black sports pack!

 

[Scrounger]

So the car is due to the dealers this week. I’ve already activated the Connect package so they can crack on with it when it arrives. The Tracker costs £219 pa. Fingers crossed for a delivery either Friday or Monday, I’m thinking it‘ll be Monday now unless it turns up this morning.

Fortunately my salesman has just told me I’m £9k in equity so means less of a deposit from my side.

Insurance quotes are varying from £450-£2000! hasting Direct are the cheapest at £450 and my current insurer are the most expensive. LV wanted £900 and NFU dont insure in my area. I’m reluctant to waste my time with Classic Line or Mannings as they were really expensive when quoting last time and I don’t track the car.

Dan.

 

[KenDavis71]

Hi Dan,

I picked mine up at the end of Jan and also had the connect package activated. Unfortunately, mine has been inactive more than it has active! Reliability of the software certainly in my case has not been good over the past 8 weeks or so. I need to get it back to the OPC at some point.

Good luck with the handover, be sure to check all the panels for any transport damage. I noticed a slight dink in the corner of the NS wing about 2 weeks after handover (very hard to see). To be fair to the OPC it could have been damage post handover but who knows and I've had the dent man in since to sort it for £60. Pays to be thorough!

One thing is for sure, you will not be disappointed!

Ken

 

[Scrounger]

Thanks Ken.

Fingers crossed its immaculate!

Dan