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911FirstTimer
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Hi
I'm a relatively new PCGB member who joined originally with a view to researching and buying a 968. As I need the car for a daily commute to a station and after further research I've discounted the 968 and am now looking at 997's. If I'm honest I think I wanted a 911 all along but just thought a 968 would be a cheaper/rarer entry point to ownership but have now shelved that idea.
I am looking to buy a car from an independent Porsche dealer in the Kent/Sussex/Surrey area and have some experience of Paragon Porsche as they are my closest dealer. They seem genuine guys and have been very helpful in spending time with me to discuss what might be the best option for me.
I just wondered whether anyone else had experience of them or had experience with any other independent dealers near me (based in Tunbridge Wells). My impression is that Paragon are good but tend to be on the expensive side. My budget is £30-£50k and am just trying to work out what Coupe is best option for a 911 novice so any suggestions most welcome also.
I'm a relatively new PCGB member who joined originally with a view to researching and buying a 968. As I need the car for a daily commute to a station and after further research I've discounted the 968 and am now looking at 997's. If I'm honest I think I wanted a 911 all along but just thought a 968 would be a cheaper/rarer entry point to ownership but have now shelved that idea.
I am looking to buy a car from an independent Porsche dealer in the Kent/Sussex/Surrey area and have some experience of Paragon Porsche as they are my closest dealer. They seem genuine guys and have been very helpful in spending time with me to discuss what might be the best option for me.
I just wondered whether anyone else had experience of them or had experience with any other independent dealers near me (based in Tunbridge Wells). My impression is that Paragon are good but tend to be on the expensive side. My budget is £30-£50k and am just trying to work out what Coupe is best option for a 911 novice so any suggestions most welcome also.
Monkeynutz
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911FirstTimer said:
Hi and welcome!
Here's my 2p worth. I assume with your budget that you will be looking for a 997 Gen 2. I will avoid discussing Turbo versions as I don't know a great deal about them other than being rocket ships.
Do you want the wide body? If so you are limited to the GT, GTS or 4WD versions. Gen 2 GTS and C4S versions are desirable and command hefty premiums. I love my C4S and it does seem a little more forgiving and is building up my confidence as I learn to drive the car especially as I use the car all year. There has been the odd occasion when I have noticed the front end pulling out of a corner but other than that I rarely notice it. I haven't tracked it yet though. Some will will say that the rear wheel drive versions provide the purer 911 experience which may be true.
You can however get all the experience of owning a nice 911 by going for a non-S version without shelling out big money but you do miss out on some kit (unless it has been optioned well) and obviously some power. The S will always be more desirable though.
Toys -
PDK is brilliant but not so great without the sport chrono package. If looking for a manual I wouldn't stress over chrono.
Sport Design Steering Wheel (can be retro fitted) the standard wheel ages the interior in my opinion and I much prefer the flappy paddles.
Check for auto dimming mirrors. Mine doesn't have them and I wish it did.
Bose is nice but after 8k miles I still rarely listen to it, the engine noise is just too good. Navigation is kinda meh even with the upgrade to 7 digit post code but I much prefer Waze and use that.
PSE - Switchable Sports exhaust. A must have (IMHO) unless you are planning on fitting an aftermarket system.
Sports design seats are nice but standard ones are very comfy.
PDLS - Dynamic lights - I really like them but not essential.
PASM - Coming from a 4 series it's better than BMWs M Sport Suspension when cruising and I find myself in Sport mode often even on the Fen roads.
Can't give you any feedback on Paragon but they do seem to turn over a fair number of P-cars so can't be that bad. Their prices don't seem to be far from OPC prices. I bought from OPC and got the Porsche Warranty which I have had to use so I am glad I did. Prices at the time didn't seem significantly different at Indies but the warranties can be very different- worthy of good research I think. OPC warranty is very restrictive of aftermarket non-OEM items though. The Gen 2s are robust motors but like any performance car when they go wrong they can be expensive to fix. I have read good things about 911Virgins on other forums such as 991uk.
Before you buy get along to a local meet if you can where you can look at cars and talk about all the variants, the community is great!
Good luck.
911FirstTimer
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Thanks very much I do like the wide body of a 4S and could also do with the added 4 wheel drive as I'm used that from my current car which as Audi TTS. I did test drive a Gen 1 997 Turbo Tip which was pretty good and I was surprised at how well it rode and progressive the brakes were, I'd expected a bone shaker and very fierce on/off brakes - no doubt showing my ignorance here! Despite it being probably the sensible choice financially (aren't 997 turbo prices still on the rise)it's over budget for me.
I'd like a pdk as I've driven other Porsches with pdk gearbox and thought it was very good but I guess it will be case of finding the right car at the right price. My thinking is in choosing the car it is in order of importance; condition, OPC service history (if not too old), mileage....?
Thanks again I will see when the next local meet is and try to tag along.
I'd like a pdk as I've driven other Porsches with pdk gearbox and thought it was very good but I guess it will be case of finding the right car at the right price. My thinking is in choosing the car it is in order of importance; condition, OPC service history (if not too old), mileage....?
Thanks again I will see when the next local meet is and try to tag along.
Stephen603
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Hi There, my name is Stephen and I have joined PCGB not long ago having just bought my 1st 911 back in September. I am now a proud owner of a 997.2 C2 in Manual. I have a meet a few of you at the Ace Café earlier this week. Still can't believe that I own a 911!
Those of you who are interested please check out my pick up video, apologies in advance if anyone has seen it already!
[link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6Buq9_kPJE&t=16s]https://www.youtube.com/w...=o6Buq9_kPJE&t=16s[/link]
Hope to catch up with many of you soon in upcoming meets!
Those of you who are interested please check out my pick up video, apologies in advance if anyone has seen it already!
[link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6Buq9_kPJE&t=16s]https://www.youtube.com/w...=o6Buq9_kPJE&t=16s[/link]
Hope to catch up with many of you soon in upcoming meets!
Monkeynutz
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Welcome!! I did catch the video shortly after it was uploaded as I stalk youtube for 911 content. Nice vid!Stephen603 said:
Stephen603
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And here is a picture!
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Thanks for the positivity on the vid! Just started making and editing vids still a bit shakey on my iphone
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Thanks for the positivity on the vid! Just started making and editing vids still a bit shakey on my iphone
Monkeynutz
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timbinns said:
Welcome! First one? Great aren't they!! 11 months on and I still smile just opening the door
Ian Hartley
New member
Good evening Gents, and ladies of course .....
new member here up in sunny Yorkshire living not far from York.
Tbh , I was looking for a fun second car to complete my mid life crisis that I’ve been having for most of my life and came across a Porsche in a local Garage.
Never really been a Porsche guy but i looked round it and thought “nice” then toddled of Home. But, the following day I still had this bloody car niggling away in my head , i thought sod it , I’ll call and make an offer , the car had sold just after leaving the garage.
After that I stated looking, it got well under my skin !
Anyway , by chance after getting it out to contacts and people in those circles a good pal who’s in the game knew of a car that may suit.
Cutting it short , I bought a 2004 966 C4S without seeing it in the flesh and never even driving one, the Missis thought “ he’s deffo lost it” this time.
Well , call it a hunsh or gut feel , but with a FSH and low mileage, I took the plunge......
all i will add to that is I absolutely love it and the garage which was full of crap for the last 18 years is now pristine and housing my new love in my live !
Great to be be a member and totally get what you guys see.
ih
new member here up in sunny Yorkshire living not far from York.
Tbh , I was looking for a fun second car to complete my mid life crisis that I’ve been having for most of my life and came across a Porsche in a local Garage.
Never really been a Porsche guy but i looked round it and thought “nice” then toddled of Home. But, the following day I still had this bloody car niggling away in my head , i thought sod it , I’ll call and make an offer , the car had sold just after leaving the garage.
After that I stated looking, it got well under my skin !
Anyway , by chance after getting it out to contacts and people in those circles a good pal who’s in the game knew of a car that may suit.
Cutting it short , I bought a 2004 966 C4S without seeing it in the flesh and never even driving one, the Missis thought “ he’s deffo lost it” this time.
Well , call it a hunsh or gut feel , but with a FSH and low mileage, I took the plunge......
all i will add to that is I absolutely love it and the garage which was full of crap for the last 18 years is now pristine and housing my new love in my live !
Great to be be a member and totally get what you guys see.
ih
Ian Hartley
New member
Apologies, the numbers were all grouped together- I’m sure I’ll figure it out... so much for my first post.
Unless someone could move it or point me in the in the right direction.
ih
Unless someone could move it or point me in the in the right direction.
ih
Benjs
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Monkeynutz
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Welcome back! That colour is stunning!! :OBenjs said:[/url]2017-10-28_04-11-25 by Ben Stokes, on Flickr[/img][/url]2017-10-28_04-11-25 by Ben Stokes, on Flickr[/img]Not really a newbie as a welcome back. Slighly newer in a 997.2 c2 and this time Aqua blue [[/url]2017-10-28_04-11-25 by Ben Stokes, on Flickr[/img][/url]2017-10-28_04-11-25 by Ben Stokes, on Flickr[/img]
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911FirstTimer
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I've done it I've finally dipped my toe in the 911 market at long long last. Went for a 997.1 tip C2S at the cheaper end of my budget, good clean car, reasonable specification and pick it up this time next week. Proper pictures to follow. Thanks for the advice, I thought I'd try a gen 1 first see how I go and go for the standard C2S.....
Monkeynutz
New member
Welcome to the fold!! A gen1 C2S is a cracking car and hard to beat value wise. Almost a year now since I bought my first 911 and I still smile like a kid at Christmas every time I get in it. Enjoy your first proper drive!911FirstTimer said:
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