Retro Fit X51 Power Kit

[okellyt]

ORIGINAL: YvesD

Guys,

Loosely based around this thread because we have discussed the topic in relation to our Porsches, I thought you might like to know that I had my BMW 120d remapped by DMS today. []

According to DMS my 2 litre diesel now has 208bhp and 406Nm torque @2000 rpm !

All I can tell you is, post mod, its absolutely barking mad !

Fantastic

Yves

yves

Nice one![8D][8|]

Did DMs tell you a likely power/torque increase for remapping your x51 and perhaps a price.........[:-]

 

[Dylan1]

mmmmmm,might give them a ring-rather fancy giving linda`s diesel a bit more oomph!
i wonder what they`ll get out of her msport 3 diesel??

 

[david_yorkshire]

I've had 3 BMW diesels re-mapped now 330, 118, 320- well worth it.
I also did a back to back fuel consumption run with & without - 4mpg more efficient after remap!
very good value for money IMHO
David

 

[YvesD]

ORIGINAL: okellyt

ORIGINAL: YvesD

Guys,

Loosely based around this thread because we have discussed the topic in relation to our Porsches, I thought you might like to know that I had my BMW 120d remapped by DMS today. []

According to DMS my 2 litre diesel now has 208bhp and 406Nm torque @2000 rpm !

All I can tell you is, post mod, its absolutely barking mad !

Fantastic

Yves

yves

Nice one![8D][8|]

Did DMs tell you a likely power/torque increase for remapping your x51 and perhaps a price.........[:-]

Oh, yes, we have been in dialogue on this topic for some time......

You can expect a modest torque increase ( pleanty already ) and a headline power figure well north of 400 bhp........ The remap will fill out the dips/compromises built into the standard map to appease the Beurocrats and add a little sparkle at the top end for good measure.

Price subject to previous trading history, negotiating skills etc !

Tempted ?

Yves

 

[YvesD]

ORIGINAL: dyllan

mmmmmm,might give them a ring-rather fancy giving linda`s diesel a bit more oomph!
i wonder what they`ll get out of her msport 3 diesel??

dyllan,

It will depend on the vintage of your 330d a little ( E90 version is quoted at 276+ BHP for example )

Wish I had had my old 535d M Sport done now, there again, probably wouldnt have sold it for the Porsche with all that grunt on tap.

No, what am I saying ! Nurse !!

Yves

 

[okellyt]

Yves

Got some contact details for them? - it wouldn't hurt just to find out a little more..............

Short term I am likely to staf as is - My leaflet is telling me that the x51 doesn't develop full power for 8 -10k miles, as I am only at 3.5k I am not yet realising the full power of the darkside yet so have away to go to enjoy the current set up. Also I have a very good insurance quote for business use that only allows me alterations of up to 10% on power before it get a bit punative

One the warranty is up I am definatley visiting the tuners paradise

 

[YvesD]

okt,

Contact Mike Cooper @ DMS 02380 428438

Regards

Yves

 

[YvesD]

ORIGINAL: rob9974s

Also waiting for the warranty to expire seems to make a lot of sense to me (but extending the warranty would mean waiting another year!)

OEM warranty expiry date shouldnt make any difference to your purchasing decision. Reputable tuners run their own warranty in parallel to the Manufacturers one in case the worst happens. At some point, one or the other will run out and if its gong to go pop, it will probably happen sooner rather rthan later !

And just to make the waiting even more difficult there is a good article in the June edition of 911&Porsche magazine on Revo Technik and their Sussex based agent Paragon. I've had some dealings with Paragon and they have always seemed okay people to me, that is to say that if they chose Revo or Revo chose them it would be a plus point in my book.

Revo would appear to offer considerable flexibility according to this article and the testing described with a 996 Turbo and 996 GT3. By flexibility I mean what they offer in the package - as well, of course, in performance etc. Unfortunatley no mention of the 997.

Revo definately do a map for X51, I know as I have had a quote for it !

The other thing that caught my eye was the mention of Shell V-Power 98 Octane versus BP Ultimate 102 Octane. I've always used Shell V-Power (or Optimax as was), perhaps I ought to switch to BP. Any thoughts?

V Power is the best compromise me-thinks.

Regards

Yves

 

[okellyt]

Yves

what was Revo's view on the x51 in terms of upgrade potential (bhp/lbft)

 

[YvesD]

ORIGINAL: okellyt

Yves

what was Revo's view on the x51 in terms of upgrade potential (bhp/lbft)

Quite conservative actually although I understand that you can have the mapping tailored to your needs to some degree with their products. Not sure whether this applies here.

Between 10-12 extra ponies and a similar increase in torque.

Yves

 

[Adam2S]

ORIGINAL: rob9974s

The other thing that caught my eye was the mention of Shell V-Power 98 Octane versus BP Ultimate 102 Octane. I've always used Shell V-Power (or Optimax as was), perhaps I ought to switch to BP. Any thoughts?

Err V-Power is 99 Octane. You are thinking of the old Shell Optimax that was 98 Octane.

[:-]

 

[Dylan1]

yves
thanks for that
enticing-linda`s is a 1yr old e90
could be fun!!

 

[Guest]

Hi and sorry if this has been covered, but will we ever expect to see an approved, non-warranty shredding powerkit available for the 997tt? Porsche fitted or otherwise?

Thanks.

 

[YvesD]

ORIGINAL: bobjebb

Hi and sorry if this has been covered, but will we ever expect to see an approved, non-warranty shredding powerkit available for the 997tt? Porsche fitted or otherwise?

Thanks.

Yep,

Word on the inside is that the X50 TT upgrade will be available late this year/early next.

Still wont be enough though. DMS can do you a stage 4 upgrade to 600bhp + which is what we really want !

Yves

 

[garyw]

ORIGINAL: bobjebb

Hi and sorry if this has been covered, but will we ever expect to see an approved, non-warranty shredding powerkit available for the 997tt? Porsche fitted or otherwise?

You really have to ask, how much power do you want/need ??
Unless its for willy waving down the pub, I don't really see or feel the need on the TT.

I would guess it will be around the same costs as the X50 and X51, but for that amount of extra power...? (in comparison to the TT figures) again whats the point..[&:]

This months Total Porsche magazine has the DMS article on the 997TT, for £4.5K your in the realms of two things.
1) no warranty
2) 0-62mph in 3.3sec

Yes its been written that the tuners warranty may cover things instead of Porsches, but if its not obviously connected to the tuner they will side step you and we already know how high Porsche will jump to get out of a warranty claim...

garyw

 

[okellyt]

ORIGINAL: YvesD

ORIGINAL: okellyt

Yves

what was Revo's view on the x51 in terms of upgrade potential (bhp/lbft)

Quite conservative actually although I understand that you can have the mapping tailored to your needs to some degree with their products. Not sure whether this applies here.

Between 10-12 extra ponies and a similar increase in torque.

Yves

[&o] Makes the x51 look like a positive bargain then at 26 horses and slightly more torque

Maybe not the one to go for eh?

 

[okellyt]

ORIGINAL: garyw

ORIGINAL: bobjebb

Hi and sorry if this has been covered, but will we ever expect to see an approved, non-warranty shredding powerkit available for the 997tt? Porsche fitted or otherwise?

You really have to ask, how much power do you want/need ??
Unless its for willy waving down the pub, I don't really see or feel the need on the TT.

I would guess it will be around the same costs as the X50 and X51, but for that amount of extra power...? (in comparison to the TT figures) again whats the point..[&:]

This months Total Porsche magazine has the DMS article on the 997TT, for £4.5K your in the realms of two things.
1) no warranty
2) 0-62mph in 3.3sec

Yes its been written that the tuners warranty may cover things instead of Porsches, but if its not obviously connected to the tuner they will side step you and we already know how high Porsche will jump to get out of a warranty claim...

garyw

Gary

good point - unfortunately or fortunately as is human nature the answwer will be "because I can", and that mind set has brought us here from horses and carriages. The same argument raged in the 60and.70's all the way to now,

How much power is enough - if 500 pomies is barely enough for an uber saloon these days how much should a TT have......

As always its about how the power is delivered and controlled - which is why I like the x51 bhp increase big net precieved performance increase

You'll have to see how the TT upgrade feels to drive does it make it sound and feel like it goes better, if it does is it worth the extra cash. I suspect making it sound better and feel revier will be a higher priority than much more power....

BTW Yves thats 200 up for you!

 

[Guest]

Not really into willy waving - I tried that once down the local and got barred. (Had to pay for all the damge too...)

But - I'd really be interested if this initial lag will be resolved in any powerkit. I've been mildly surprised how the car pauses for thought at low revs, in fact the much publicised ludicrously fast 0-60 time doesn't seem to make sense sometimes. I've found myself changing down manually to find the most responsive area for overtaking, something I wasn't expecting to have to do.

I'm very new to the car and in no rush to fiddle, however if the likes of DMS could in some way collaborate with Porsche to create a warranty friendly upgrade, I'd be there with bells on. Guess we'll wait and see what the Porsche options are going to be - or does anyone know?

Dumb question, the difference between X50 and X51 is.....?

 

[Alex L]

Turbo owners may want to check this out:

DMS 997 Turbo: "Engine tweaks give the turbocharged Porsche 911 another 62bhp to take it further into supercar territory"

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/208284/porsche_911.html

 

[Rodney Naghar]

I've been midly surprised how the car pauses for thought at low revs,

If the X50 is anything to go by (996 turbo upgrade from 420bhp to 450bhp) the larger turbos (K24s vs K16s) led to even more turbo lag...so I doubt the 997 version will be much different. Bigger turbos need more time to spool up.