She broke my car.

[carlmthompson]

You need to try harder!

Took some more pics from the repairers.

Of note in the yard was a brand new 645i BMW Convertable with front end damage, a brand new (i.e still had the dealer showroom plates on) BMW 5Series Estate that was having it's side painted (someone will be buying it as ex-demo no doubt!), and a 996 Carrera with front and rear damage (apparently £17k's worth!)

 

[Mark_Bennett]

£9500...

 

[Guest]

£12,800

I bagsy the rear carpet
The gearbox oil cooler pipe

And possibly a load of other stuff i cant think of right now!!!

Oh BTW thats a sickner about your car, same colour as mine with really put a chyill down my spine. I have agreed value too and its got to be worth it £13k agreed, no way would i get that off a normal insurance policy.

Seriously i hope i am not right about the cost and you get you car back on the road.

 

[carlmthompson]

Well,

I appreciate your cander Slim, but the prize goes to Mark. The actual "Estimated without prejudice" cost of repair sits at £9703.78.

And that doesn't include the damage to the front wing, or any undiscovered mechanical damage once the car is stripped and road tested (i.e gearbox / drivetrain / exhaust related).

It does include £5354.16 of Porsche Parts at RRP!

I'll find out in the next coupe of days wether the insurance company is prepared to repair, or I'll be getting a cheque. Iwish I had a 13K agreed value. What mileage on your car Slim? Mine (was) 80K with full OPC SH plus no damage or paint from new.

I also want to conduct a straw poll from you lot (as you are the experts). Based in the fact the car is now not original, and although repaired to full Porsche standards, using only Porsche Parts..... what would you now value the car at (based on 11K original vaule).

PS - Be as truthful as you like - I won't be hurt - I'm after honesty so I can battle it out with the insurance!

PPS - Slim, if you do get the carpet - remember it's spankers - only been in the car for 12 months, and there's been nowt in the boot! The OPC spilt something on the old one and had to replace Gratis!

 

[Mark_Bennett]

Well, if it is repaired at an Official Porsche repairer, using Porsche parts, then it should get a lifetime warranty on the repair.

So half your car will be new, with a lifetime warranty, and half will be X years old.

The value should not change...

 

[carlmthompson]

In reality, everything else being equal, would you choose a repaired car, or an original car?

PS - I owe you a Pint, or if your from the South, I will of course honour a half of lager top[]

PPS - Slim - in a Star Wars fashion, these aren't the pipes you're looking for!

 

[berg944]

Try finding one that has not been repaired!

If you do ...........look closer

 

[Diver944]

Thank goodness for your agreed value [], most 944T could not even sell for £9703.78 so I think your best bet is to pocket the cash and buy a new car.

Tricky one as to the value after the repair [&:]. I don't think a proper repair will harm value, but it may make it harder to sell if the repair is declared as most punters with a choice will obviously chose the car 'they think' has no repairs. Most of our cars will have had some repair at some point, some are easy to spot some are not. An unspottable repair will be of a very high standard, but I personally place no faith in the quality of OPC bodyshops with older cars after a bad experience myself.

Just had a thought, do the parts include the front part of the exhaust, wastegate and manifold? If the forces were conducted along the pipe then there could be damage up front?

 

[Guest]

ORIGINAL: carlmthompson

In reality, everything else being equal, would you choose a repaired car, or an original car?

PS - I owe you a Pint, or if your from the South, I will of course honour a half of lager top[]

PPS - Slim - in a Star Wars fashion, these aren't the pipes you're looking for!

Yes indeedy mine have a slight leak, very slight 100ml over 7k miles but its still annoying,.

Mine has 89k miles on it now have 82k when i got the value done. A bag of reciept and stuff totalling £7k probably helped the cause!!!

BTW i don't accept that Mark won as the full price is not yet confirmed, ad in the fornt and any other wee bit and it will edge towards £12k D

No point in talking about parts till you finally know what the outcome is, but will defiantly be up for some scavan... oh i mean helping you out in your time of need.
I am sure I can think of a load of other small items that I can take off your hands, like the front fog lights if they can be removed properly with mounting screws etc.
The Air pump, etc etc

p.s. mine has all original panels on it (with stickers all be it faded) and has never been in a bump. But if I can get £13k from the insurance company it just might ;oD

 

[944turboS]

Slim,
there is a set of gearbox cooler pipes on ebay just now

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10408&item=4530022881&rd=1

 

[carlmthompson]

Just had a thought, do the parts include the front part of the exhaust, wastegate and manifold? If the forces were conducted along the pipe then there could be damage up front?

It's a thought I've already had. The estimate only includes the back box (at an astounding £594.45 + vat!), but I'm sure that more of the exhaust will be mangled (see pic).

I have a feeling that the assessor will write it off, as they'll be able to get some money back for the car as is (up to 4k?), so anything over 7 or 8k of repairs won't make financial sense for them.

I'll have to work out how much the parts are worth before deciding to buy back. Anybody got an idea of what things are worth? My first option will be to repair for cheaper (the estimate gives prices at Retail, so I know I can get at least 10% off that, plus some second hand bits off the kind folk here who've offered assistance!)

 

[Fen]

The guide is 60% of value as I understand it. On that basis it will be written off for sure as the repairs are way over £6,600 which is 60% of your agreed value. Add to that the fact that it probably won't be worth the same after as it was before and it doesn't make financial sense for them to repair it. I realise they have to go through the motions but to be honest it's looked like a no-brainer write off to me since I saw the first pictures.

 

[mik_ok]

To echo Fen ~ I believe 60% to be the point they apply as standard when assessing economical repair vs write-off. Looks like you'll go well beyond that.

You may well be back to your plan of buy-back-and-strip-for-spares.

 

[Mark_Bennett]

As stated 50 to 60% is what they normally say, but in case anyone is interested, the Insurance Ombudsman states that should an owner so desire the car must be repaired if the repair cost is less than the market value of the car.
So if anyone has a particularly cherished, or rare car, the insurance company have to repair it if the repair cost is lower than the value, although they will usually argue no such policy exists...

 

[Guest]

ORIGINAL: 944turboS

Slim,
there is a set of gearbox cooler pipes on ebay just now

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10408&item=4530022881&rd=1

Cheers mate will watch with interest, i like the costs £800 new, PMSL well its not quite that expensive new, not that its got any bearing on its second hand value.

 

[944turboS]

Hope you dont have to do it but there is a guy in the wanted section looking for a turbo gearbox.
[]

 

[John Sims]

Cheers mate will watch with interest, i like the costs £800 new, PMSL well its not quite that expensive new, not that its got any bearing on its second hand value.

This item was on eBay about a month ago and either got no bids or didn't reach reserve - I was pondering giving the guy a ring subsequently and never bothered in the end.

 

[carlmthompson]

Hello all,

Quick update:-

I find out for sure on Monday, but it looks like it's going to be repaired. Apparently the insurers have asked for some discount on the parts, and if they can get the bill below 9k, then it's a goer (rather than a goner!)[]

 

[Guest]

ORIGINAL: carlmthompson

Hello all,

Quick update:-

I find out for sure on Monday, but it looks like it's going to be repaired. Apparently the insurers have asked for some discount on the parts, and if they can get the bill below 9k, then it's a goer (rather than a goner!)[]

Good stuff, saying that i really fancied your carpet []

Hope you get it back on the road.

 

[carlmthompson]

It's official - it's being repaired[].

Could be nearly 3 months before I see it again though[].