tyres

[Diver944]

You'll actually have 11mm more clearance to the arch [8D] because the central point that the offset starts from is in a different place on a narrower wheel.

This calculator shows the details

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

 

[bennyboy]

Thanks Paul, I think I was comparing the 9.5 inch wheel to the standard 9 inch D90 by mistake. Hope he takes the part-ex then. By the way, it's Simon from ESS - anyone got some of these rims fitted?

 

[random hero]

I have the replica cups with a 9.5" rear and they fit fine,i cant remember the offset though. Ive also got some original speedline/porsche cup rims with a 10" rear which also fit fine apart from i had to move the brake cable slightly to stop it rubbing. Your car must be lower than mine because i have the same speedline allesio's as you also (10"/et47) and havent had any problems with them on the turbo or my 83 lux with 30mm spacers fitted.

 

[bennyboy]

You sure you don't wanna sell me your replicas??? Yeah the car is pretty low on M030 set-up. I'm also wondering if my Conti's have an especially large rim protector?

 

[random hero]

I have conti's on the replica's and pirelli Pzero's on the speedline allesio's which do seem slight smaller on the sides.Mine it at a standard ride hight due to all the speed bumps around here !!.

 

[bennyboy]

Seriously though, would you be interested in swapping my speedlines for your replicas?

 

[random hero]

Not really as i already have some speedline allesio's and am thinking of selling them anyway as ive 5 sets of wheels for the car !!

 

[Nouveau]

too late

 

[James_G]

Mmm, frustrating when people send stuff out wrong, but as you say, good that they were happy to resolve the issue.

9500 miles does seem low to me, but assuming that they've worn evenly would indicate things were fine with tracking and/or pressures. Odd though, unless you treat every roundabout as a drifting opportunity [].

 

[georgethackray]

Hi - yes - even wear across both of the tyres, and I've not learnt how to drift yet [] - I drive fairly quickly in it, but I don't thrash it, and I'm a bit of a chicken when it comes to corners, the tail end has lost it's grip twice in all the time I've had it, in the wet on both occasions, and by losing grip I mean it's kicked out by about 6 inches before it regained grip again.

 

[tref]

Superb timing - see my post under technical - wheels and tyres asking exactly this - Another report I read somewhere said 17k for Contis where as my old P600s have lasted more like 30k.

I do wonder if these threads should be combined one-way or the other though?

 

[James_G]

Tref, P6000s are notorious for lasting a long long time, with a trade off being that grip levels aren't high. As a friend once quipped, this is the price you pay for tyres made of coal...

I had P6000s on my car and a spare set of wheels, so Falken 452s went on the nice wheels for everyday use and the P6000s went on the track wheels, and I can confirm that even hot, they really don't have very much grip. As a result, I track the car with the Falkens which are far, far better.

Echoing the comments on your thread in the technical section, I and others here on the forum really rate the Falkens and any appreciable acceleration in wear experienced over your Pirellis will be offset by their reduction in cost. Plus you'll have more grip.

 

[georgethackray]

ORIGINAL: tref
Superb timing - see my post under technical - wheels and tyres asking exactly this - Another report I read somewhere said 17k for Contis where as my old P600s have lasted more like 30k.

I do wonder if these threads should be combined one-way or the other though?

Thanks Tref, I've added my whinge to that thread too. I feel much better now []

 

[georgethackray]

ORIGINAL: James_G
As a friend once quipped, this is the price you pay for tyres made of coal...

I heard P6000s were made from Bakelite - you just can't trust this interweb can you.

 

[zcacogp]

I got about 20,000 miles from the rears of my S2 last time I changed them. They were Falkens, and that is mainly town driving with mild enthusiasm.

I reckon on a wear rate of about 2:1 rear:front (i.e. the rears wear about twice as quickly as the fronts.) As James has said, the driving style and roads driven will dictate the tyre life if the geo is correct (are you sure about this BTW?) The rears will do all of the accelerating, the fronts most of the braking. If you slide it regularly then that will take its toll on tyre life.

Are they correctly inflated? (Are they worn evenly, or more in the middle or outside?) What sort of driving do you do? Country roads with gusto, or lots of gentle cruising on motorways? And are you sure about the geo?


Oli.

ETA: I was REALLY slow in writing this post - sorry! Everyone else has said everythign worth saying.

P6000's are great if you want to drivge everywhere very slowly. They last forever. If, however, you want some adhesion between tyre and road they are an awful choice! How Pirelli carry on selling them is beyond me ...

 

[georgethackray]

Hi Oli, The tyre pressures have been pretty well bang on all the time I've owned it, and of the 9500 miles that the car has covered with these tyres on, I'd say 8000 has been on motorways / dual carriageways (travelling to Porsche events at Silverstone x 2, Ragley, Evesham, Ace Cafe accounts for a fair chunk of that), and the rest has been on A / B roads. Probably a maximum of 500 miles on twisty roads.

I'm absolutely certain about the geometry too, and I had a good look at the tyres when they were off the car. They had very even wear right across, to within 1mm. I'm puzzled about it because I know that Continentals are supposed to be decent tyres - in fact if someone told me that I'd bought fakes made of pencil rubbers, that would explain it away nicely!

As for sliding it regularly, I suppose I am guilty of that to a degree - I think the first time was in May 2007, then again in May 2008, I'm due to slide it again in a couple of weeks time, if I can afford it. []

 

[James_G]

ORIGINAL: georgethackray

As for sliding it regularly, I suppose I am guilty of that to a degree - I think the first time was in May 2007, then again in May 2008, I'm due to slide it again in a couple of weeks time, if I can afford it. []

Brilliant! [][][]

 

[zcacogp]

Could have been worse - melted-down condoms, perhaps?

See how long the next set lasts. If your car is eating tyres then something will be amiss. That (regular sliding included) sounds like very light wear and I'd hope for more than that from a pair of decent tyres.


Oli.

 

[Fat Albert]

P6000s were perfect for my old SAAB 9000 Griffin, sitting at Motorway speeds for up to 9 hours a day and 30k miles a year.

Unfortunately my new 951 has them on the front.....

Not as bad as the Maxxes on the back though[]

What's the preferred Tyre de Jour on the forum?

 

[zcacogp]

Fattie,

Do a search - there is a lot of discussion about tyres on here. But the Falken FK452 seems to be brilliant as a budget tyre (lots of people think it's good), and I think there is an Avon which people with more money swear by as well.


Oli.