Viewing a 968 Club Sport this week.....

[Ex Skyline]

I thought there was a touch of class about you Terry [8|]. My mistake mate, South East Kent, here I come [][]! And who might "Citizen Smith" be in the picture Martin? I dread to think...[]!

 

[Waylander]

At least you got a sense of humour......

have look at the picture again so I can point out Woolfie

 

[Ex Skyline]

Well go on then [8|], point him out. The suspense is killing me [8|]. By the way, just out of curiosity, who do you compare me with in your "Rogues Gallery"?? []

 

[Waylander]

Well go on then [8|], point him out. The suspense is killing me [8|]. By the way, just out of curiosity, who do you compare me with in your "Rogues Gallery"?? []

Big Daddy ???

 

[Ex Skyline]

Ha,Ha!! I see you have a sense of humour too []!! We must meet up soon.

 

[blade7]

Blade 7, what Colin at Ninemeister said to me was that he would be prepared to make me up a super charger kit capable of producing 350 BHP (providing he got at least half a dozen orders) but, he would not make up any more of the 480 BHP kits. I think he said it was because of con' rod problems [][][].

You're money fella but I'd do some research on those 9M SC kits if I was you...

 

[Waylander]

don't understand the craze for more power, if you want more horses buy something else.

5k for a supercharger, 2k off the value of the car = crazy

 

[Toms968CS]

Congratulations on your purchase, for the record my CS has a sunroof and radio but everything else is as it should be.

 

[Ex Skyline]

Blade 7, what Colin at Ninemeister said to me was that he would be prepared to make me up a super charger kit capable of producing 350 BHP (providing he got at least half a dozen orders) but, he would not make up any more of the 480 BHP kits. I think he said it was because of con' rod problems [][][].

You're money fella but I'd do some research on those 9M SC kits if I was you...

Hi there, I'm not saying I'm going to rush out and buy a super charger for it, I want to experience a 968 out of the box first []. All I'm saying is that my last six cars have all been turbo charged performance cars (all except "YOBO" that is)so, if after a while I start to miss the lack of forced induction then, super charging is one way of sorting this problem and, I have heard very good things about Ninemeister [8D], that's all I'm saying at this stage [].

 

[Ex Skyline]

Tom' 968, thanks mate, I cant wait to take possession of Him [8D]. What colour is your cs out of interest? Martin, I don't understand your arithmetic mate [8|]? How can 5k be 2k off the value of the car when it cost 17k? Don't make sense.

 

[Chrishazle]

Pete, you need to get onto Porsche968uk and read up the experience of others who have already played these games, including a cab owner in Whitley Bay with a charger of some description fitted, and another guy in the process of building a turbo RS replica.

I think Martin is saying that spending the money and making the car non-standard would reduce its appeal to a buyer and would thus reduce rather than enhance the resale value - a point to consider with the way 968 prices have been rising of late.

However, as has been said many times, it's your car, so whatever floats your boat!![][]

 

[blade7]

Hi there, I'm not saying I'm going to rush out and buy a super charger for it, I want to experience a 968 out of the box first []. All I'm saying is that my last six cars have all been turbo charged performance cars (all except "YOBO" that is)so, if after a while I start to miss the lack of forced induction then, super charging is one way of sorting this problem and, I have heard very good things about Ninemeister [8D], that's all I'm saying at this stage [].

No axe to grind here but 968 rods probably wouldn't last long at 350 bhp. I bought a new set of Carrillo rods from a 968 CS owner with a supercharger kit fitted, a standard rod broke and put a hole in in the block before he had a chance to fit them. He fitted another standard engine and sold the car. From what I've read over the last 7 or 8 years a proper 968 SC or turbo conversion runs £10-15k. Nick-968 could give you more info.

 

[Waylander]

Let me add a little more to what I commented on

car cost 17k as it was a low mileage fully sorted car, ask yourself would you have paid the same money for a supercharged car that had lots of unknown modifications

to do a supercharger correctly I think you would have to put in to the pot about 15K

engine total rebuild with new rods about 5K

supercharger kit about 5K

labour to have it all done 3-5K

value added to the car 0

car returned to total standard as per the original order from the factory

value added = who knows the values of original cars is climbing all the time

 

[Tony Parker]

Let me add a little more to what I commented on

car cost 17k as it was a low mileage fully sorted car, ask yourself would you have paid the same money for a supercharged car that had lots of unknown modifications

to do a supercharger correctly I think you would have to put in to the pot about 15K

engine total rebuild with new rods about 5K

supercharger kit about 5K

labour to have it all done 3-5K

value added to the car 0

car returned to total standard as per the original order from the factory

value added = who knows the values of original cars is climbing all the time

Totally agree Martin. If I wanted something quicker and had £30k to spend I would be looking for a nice 996 turbo.

 

[Ex Skyline]

Ah, understood Martin, I now see your point. Tony, I haven't got £30k for a 996 Turbo so, that's out of the question. Please see my previous post, I'm NOT going to rush off and buy a sc kit, It was just a thought, for the reason I already stated. I want to see how it goes straight out of the box first. It may just be satisfying enough as it is with a standard engine, albeit a few small fettles here and there [].

 

[blade7]

All I'm saying is that my last six cars have all been turbo charged performance cars.

I think you will get used to the power of a standard 968 very quickly. I thought I wanted one 8 years ago but the engine in the lightly tweaked BMW 328 Coupe I had at the time felt as fast and sounded better.

 

[Waylander]

yes but it was a BMW................................

 

[blade7]

yes but it was a BMW................................

That's why I replaced it with a 944T..........

 

[Carrera]

HI guys 1993 CS was launched, in two years 1923 were made. In 1994/95 306 CS 's delivered to Uk without CS badging and UK badged them Sport. Included in the 1923 number 179 were delivered to UK badged as CS. Then to confuse the issue further Sth Africa Australia Singapore all had various versions of the CS. A dealer said to me recently when we sell 968's it depends what it says in the log book if it says Sport it our eyes it is not a CS and that's where we value a CS the more expensive. Hope these numbers are correct they are as researched by Johnny Tipler of 911& PW see Sept '15 issue rgds Ken Coad. 968 reg sec

 

[warby]

HI guys 1993 CS was launched, in two years 1923 were made. In 1994/95 306 CS 's delivered to Uk without CS badging and UK badged them Sport. Included in the 1923 number 179 were delivered to UK badged as CS. Then to confuse the issue further Sth Africa Australia Singapore all had various versions of the CS. A dealer said to me recently when we sell 968's it depends what it says in the log book if it says Sport it our eyes it is not a CS and that's where we value a CS the more expensive. Hope these numbers are correct they are as researched by Johnny Tipler of 911& PW see Sept '15 issue rgds Ken Coad. 968 reg sec

Hi Ken,

As far as I'm concerned, a Sport should always be referred to as a Sport when selling (and I've got one!) but I don't totally agree with what the dealer said to you. Yes they are always likely to be worth less (due to their options) than an option free Club Sport but they do have a Club Sport chassis number and as far as Porsche Germany is concerned are listed as a Club Sport (including on all COA from them). Personally, that is the important part to me.

I think at the end of the day a Club Sport fitted with options such as electric windows / sunroof etc is always going to be worth slightly less than the more lightweight versions with all manual features. Those also fitted with the M030 option and LSD option will command a greater price because they are rare and ideal for track use.

As you mention, it is difficult to find information for the world markets of the Club Sport including Australia, Belgium, Japan etc. Because of this, I'm in the process of setting up a worldwide 968 Club Sport register and have a number of owners from Belgium and the Netherlands (and Japan) interested in providing photographs and specs of their cars. In terms of the production figures, it does vary depending on who you talk to and has been listed as 1923 vs 1538 over the years. When I spoke with Porsche in the UK the figure of 1923 was given (I think Peter Morgan also lists this).



Cheers Rich