Wanted - 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose)
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As already covered the late car also has an 952 code on the handbook/boot sticker so is not the designator.
the later cars also have the triangle bracing piece (at least having had a good look at a TurboS and a later car the strut tower area looks identical both having a triangle piece in front of the strut tower)
Whilst I do not doubt Simon the code M758 is missing from the list in the online pet http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts/en/E_944_91_KATALOG.pdf I guess as it was a sale option. (just realised that was a 89-91 list checking 88 now - not in the -88 list either)
The 89 cars carried over the Turbo S spec and added a sunroof in the UK (unless deleted) there are a (very) few of the later cars with the sunroof deleted. looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_944 there were more Turbo cars built in 88 than the TurboS run. Were the TurboS the first cars built for the 1988 model year if so there will be 88 cars to same spec as well. According to the wiki there were 12 TurboS built in 86 - 10 exported outside germany (never heard this before).
In 1990 there were various revisions (The post 1990 were produced in almost as limited numbers as the turbo S (1938 Worldwide + 251 Turbo cabs), and other than the shock absorbers and through the arch brake ducts, I generally prefer the spec of these cars (bridge spoiler, leather sports seats, 10 speaker etc.). There is at least one 1990 car around with no sunroof and the konis (formerly owened by mik_ok on here)
So my point is really what appeals about the TurboS? If you are looking for a good red one it might be worth looking at other 1988/9 cars as well, or even the bridge spoiler 1990 on cars and if you are after a rare car the later cars are almost as rare (may be rarer depending on which has been crashed more!) and could be argued are more unique - the series turbo carried over the TurboS changes.
(however I may be biased owning a 1990 turbo and a turbo cab
) Tony
I will add the forged wheels to my list of nice bits missing from the 1990 cars
Does M757 not refer to the earlier, non S2 , Celebration limited edition model ? There has been a 'Celebration' on Ebay for many weeks in a poor state but now appears to have gone.
Would the 944S2 SE show an option code or would these just be normal as I believe the parts were retro fitted by Porsche GB after the cars were already built and imported. I did view a black S2SE a few years back with a view to purchase, it was however in poor condition, the bonnet pull in the passenger side was a pair of mole grips holding the cable, it still had the SE decals on the side, not sure what it showed on the V5.
TTM
Well-known member
The Sachs shocks used instead of the Konis on the 90/91 cars and the cars coming with "softer" geometry settings must have, unsurprisingly, significantly affected how the cars felt.
Later cars had catalysts too, which probably made them feel a bit more sluggish than they should.
I would always favour a 90/91 car over a turbo S as I prefer the cleaner look of the bridge spoiler with D90 which makes the cars look a bit less dated. As far as I can see in classifieds, turbo S don't seem to appear for sale quite as rarely as 90/91 cars. With that said I understand that Martin would not want to buy twice the same car!
scam75
Well-known member
ORIGINAL: 944Turbo
As already covered the late car also has an 952 code on the handbook/boot sticker so is not the designator.
the later cars also have the triangle bracing piece (at least having had a good look at a TurboS and a later car the strut tower area looks identical both having a triangle piece in front of the strut tower)
Whilst I do not doubt Simon the code M758 is missing from the list in the online pet http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts/en/E_944_91_KATALOG.pdf I guess as it was a sale option. (just realised that was a 89-91 list checking 88 now - not in the -88 list either)
The 89 cars carried over the Turbo S spec and added a sunroof in the UK (unless deleted) there are a (very) few of the later cars with the sunroof deleted. looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_944 there were more Turbo cars built in 88 than the TurboS run. Were the TurboS the first cars built for the 1988 model year if so there will be 88 cars to same spec as well. According to the wiki there were 12 TurboS built in 86 - 10 exported outside germany (never heard this before).
In 1990 there were various revisions (The post 1990 were produced in almost as limited numbers as the turbo S (1938 Worldwide + 251 Turbo cabs), and other than the shock absorbers and through the arch brake ducts, I generally prefer the spec of these cars (bridge spoiler, leather sports seats, 10 speaker etc.). There is at least one 1990 car around with no sunroof and the konis (formerly owened by mik_ok on here)
So my point is really what appeals about the TurboS? If you are looking for a good red one it might be worth looking at other 1988/9 cars as well, or even the bridge spoiler 1990 on cars and if you are after a rare car the later cars are almost as rare (may be rarer depending on which has been crashed more!) and could be argued are more unique - the series turbo carried over the TurboS changes.
(however I may be biased owning a 1990 turbo and a turbo cab
Tony
I will add the forged wheels to my list of nice bits missing from the 1990 cars
I have a 1990 car with no sunroof. It also came with forged cs wheels, bridge spoiler and konis but did not have the 10 speaker option. Its Zermatt with burgundy leather sports seats. It was owned by Porsche for first 18 months of it's life and I think it was the first my90 off the production line, registered 1st Aug 89.
Stuart
According to online PET - M757 Special model 944S2 Coupe (edited from 575 as I am a numpty!)
I always thought the S2 with SE decals on the side, 3 spoke wheel, rumoured extra power was a uk Reading creation - If this is correct then I wouldn't have thought it would have an option but who knows!
In your first post you typed option M757 [8|]
Cheers, Paul
http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts/en/E_944_88_KATALOG.pdf
The Options are listed in MSP and V pages and its not in the list in 85-88 or 89-91
As you say it is used a model designation in 88 in parts lists strangely didn't come up when I searched the document earlier - must have still been loading) In the 89-91 catalogue the same part ( I chose a brake disc) is labelled "turbo 944s2 m030"
all very anoraky [
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944 man
Active member
If I was the OP and I was as keen on originality as he appears to be, the he should be looking for an M758 car from the original limited 1,000 car production run. A 1,000 - 1,600 car in Guards with a sunroof is no different from a 1989 Turbo with M030, in my opinion, except it is one year older.
We should all remember too that the cars are 25yrs old and that many cars have had parts swapped in this time, so how it is now is frequently different to how it was built.
We should all remember too that the cars are 25yrs old and that many cars have had parts swapped in this time, so how it is now is frequently different to how it was built.
M757 ?
http://porsche944celebrationedition.weebly.com/
http://porsche944celebrationedition.weebly.com/
Wonder how many there are in red from the original 1000 though - if any? Other than the fact the later cars will probably have a sunroof are there any differences other than age and chassis number? The windscreen maybe - but only really low mileage cars may still have the original screen - and low mileage cars can have a new screen for various reasons.
I can understand him not wanting a pink one (though I do like them more than I used too) but if you are really set on one of the 1000 then a pink one is more representative.
I know what you mean about changes - bet some were 'non-standard' from new as well.
Tony
944 man
Active member
My understanding is that there arent any of the original 1,000 car production run in anything other than SilberRose and that it is these cars which carry the M758 option identification. Later cars being built to spec but with leeway over colours and trim and not carrying the M758 identification.
Of course, all of this 'knowledge' pre-dates the internet and whilst a lot of what we learned the hard way was correct, some 'knowledge' has bee debunked, so I may be wrong.
Yes seen celebrations as in Paul's link too, If Pet (89-92) M757 S2 is referring to Series 2 not Super 2 it makes sense - not that its missing from the earlier PET though!
Nick's was a 3.0 16v and very original, but thinking back his interior may have been more a cross between the celebration and the silver rose, I'll drop him a line later he will probably have a photo.
not really on topic though.
Back on topic (ish) Jim F does your car have the M758 designation?
Tony
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