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what did you do to your 944 today

Changed the bonnet struts at the weekend, no more dunts to the napper when it's windy!

Dropped car at paint shop today. Some none too serious rust spots needing done as well as a couple of little repairs to panels. Was looking at having bonnet, o/s wing, o/s door, both quarters done and stone chip both sides removed/replaced. Various scuffs, scratches. Then noticed some very small bubbles on a-pillar next to windscreen. Also need the black bits on the doors and the spoiler tidied, so a full respray it is! Should be lovely when it's back. Prob be 2/3 weeks though. Boo!

Wheels will then need done. If anybody local (Scotland) has a set of wheels in correct offset, with legal tyres, if I could borrow for a week or so next month for beer tokens, that would be fab!

Stuart

 
Pretty sure Steve Simkin has about 45 sets in his garage near Edinburgh!

Must've been a sign this morning as I pulled out of the garage the clock was showing 9:51 - and the MOT I travelled too was passed with no advisories either.

 
PSH said:
It's Sunday, it was sunny, that can mean only one thing...take the car out for a good blast...fun drive, Some bikes had a play too...let's say they were a little surprised, they gave up and let me pass in the end.

(disclaimer to say this all occurred on the autobahn you understand???....:)

Pete

DITTO Pete!

Scorching day in North wales today, not much sign of any hot hatches today but loads of Bikers on the Welsh Autobahn...!

I met a string of GSXR's, Blades Dukes etc on my travels...

My car's noisy and I wear Ear defenders all the time but some of these bikes sound like a F1 when they twisted the wrist and came past me on the straights, but corners and braking zones into roundabouts and they never fail to amaze me how they struggle....

I'm aware it's not there fault with only 2 pieces of rubber with a total contact patch (probably no bigger than a large postage stamp!)

but the Speed they have is incredible in a straight line but no match for a car with brilliant brakes, or cornering and I

just think some of them are not aware of these weaknesses and get annoyed by quick cars..! (Hand signals! etc..)

R



 
Sure, mostly from the fully clad Repsol / Red Bull / Monster Moto GP "look a like" types who have all the gear, not much idea! and an attitude

that car's are a menace and how dare they challenge a superbike.

Some are quite playful and respectful and exchange more acknowledging gestures that a 30 year old classic car is giving them a good run!

It's the same with car drivers.

R

 
Eldavo said:
I do not agree with you

[;)]

+ 1. Plenty of Sunday riders that have all the gear and no idea on Superbikes, but someone that knows what they're doing would leave a 200 bhp 944 for dead in the dry.

 
In the past (and overseas obviously) had a lot of thumbs up etc from bikers in the coupe, there are not many cars as quick from 60 to 140 In fact I think I might have been in convoy with Pete and others when we had a superbike rider stood on the footpegs giving us a round of applause! IIRC on the way back from Husbourne Crawley autojumble (just North of Stuttgart).

Tony

 
944Turbo said:
In the past (and overseas obviously) had a lot of thumbs up etc from bikers in the coupe, there are not many cars as quick from 60 to 140 In fact I think I might have been in convoy with Pete and others when we had a superbike rider stood on the footpegs giving us a round of applause! IIRC on the way back from Husbourne Crawley autojumble (just North of Stuttgart).

Tony
I don't remember that one Tony, that's not to say that I wasn't there, we have had a few spirited convoy drives over the years... I do recall very well our sprint down to Le mans one year, think you were passenger in Paul's car, I was behind with my friend following in his slower 993 C4 (confirmed by another friend riding passenger with him saying that he couldn't keep up..:)...).....that was a fun drive and at one point my speedo was bouncing off it's maxed pin and still accelerating, I then backed off as a large truck joined the carriageway. Back in those days my car only had 282bhp?.. she's come on a long way since then...:)

Pete

 
Drove down across the Wiltshire downs to Gurston Down for the hill climb....a great drive in the early morning mist, not so on the way back with all the Sunday drivers! A couple of 944s in the entry, including a Turbo doing nicely balanced runs. Love the eccentric farmyard paddock there...other highlights: a Camaro (a real handful), some old stuff amongst the bikes (Bultaco, Ducati Desmo single, Ariel), and the usual bonkers bike engined cars....one with TWO Suzuki engines!!

 
924Srr27l said:
Sure, mostly from the fully clad Repsol / Red Bull / Monster Moto GP "look a like" types who have all the gear, not much idea! and an attitude

that car's are a menace and how dare they challenge a superbike.

Some are quite playful and respectful and exchange more acknowledging gestures that a 30 year old classic car is giving them a good run!

It's the same with car drivers.

R
Yes you're right Roger, it's an attitude problem, commonly known as the "my nobs bigger than yours" syndrome.

The problem is ,to joe public ,your car looks like a £2k eBay job with £20 worth of go-faster stickers on it .

Now we all know that it's a £3k car that you've spent £37k on, but to those not in the know ,it's what it looks like.

The inevitable result is that people will take the p**s and assume it's being driven like a lunatic.

I guess it's just something you have to get used to.

 
blade7 said:
Eldavo said:
I do not agree with you

[;)]

+ 1. Plenty of Sunday riders that have all the gear and no idea on Superbikes, but someone that knows what they're doing would leave a 200 bhp 944 for dead in the dry.

Exactly, but there aren't that many that know what they are doing (Bikes & Car Riders / drivers)

The Width of Talent for both is very wide, don't forget for many they are just modes of transport, or Sunday's out...

Putting aside this difference in ability, and comparing good riders and good drivers having some fun on their respective 2 & 4 machines on public roads (all legally!) there are so many fundamental differences and advantages / disadvantages of each machine.

Start a new thread if you wish, there are many variables on the 2 v 4 wheel debate (Road & Track) and the best

(Moto GP v F1) is inconclusively a 4 wheel victory with higher corner speeds, shorter braking distances and faster lap times.

This success can also be enjoyed on public roads with 4 wheels, but many other variables come into play where 2 wheels has a bigger advantage.

I've enjoyed both 2 & 4 but not owned any Supercar's or Superbikes yet but I get the Jist of the

limits and what each one is capable of / better at doing..

R

 
graham tompkins said:
Yes you're right Roger, it's an attitude problem, commonly known as the "my nobs bigger than yours" syndrome.

The problem is ,to joe public ,your car looks like a £2k eBay job with £20 worth of go-faster stickers on it .

Now we all know that it's a £3k car that you've spent £37k on, but to those not in the know ,it's what it looks like.

The inevitable result is that people will take the p**s and assume it's being driven like a lunatic.

I guess it's just something you have to get used to.

Yes i agree totally, I've been aware of this Syndrome and got used to dealing with it for many decades now.

I did pick the 924 shape for this very reason (To have something that far out performs it's exterior skin) the car's reputation

with the Van Engine and "it's a VW" etc...just make this even better, hence I didn't want to go with obvious choice,

the wider 944 or 968 (both of which I've owned).

R

 
i love my porsche, and i drive it well, but a 1 litre superbike would trounce it in pure acceleration. and a well ridden bike is a sight to behold.

ok, round the tight twisties, a car is more stable, and is faster to a point, but as soon as the bend opens up then bye bye car........... power vs weight. i think my brothers 1000rr is something like 170 odd kilos and has 198 bhp and he knows how to ride it. its 10 times the power to weight as my cab and although ive had a little play on the twisties, he doesnt need to try. the litre bikes are insanely quick. you need to spend some very serious money on a car to even come close to the performance of a litre superbike.

anyhoos, i'm drier, more comfy and warmer in the winter than my bro than he is on his bike. :)

 
al said:
i love my porsche, and i drive it well, but a 1 litre superbike would trounce it in pure acceleration. and a well ridden bike is a sight to behold.

ok, round the tight twisties, a car is more stable, and is faster to a point, but as soon as the bend opens up then bye bye car........... power vs weight. i think my brothers 1000rr is something like 170 odd kilos and has 198 bhp and he knows how to ride it. its 10 times the power to weight as my cab and although ive had a little play on the twisties, he doesnt need to try. the litre bikes are insanely quick. you need to spend some very serious money on a car to even come close to the performance of a litre superbike.

anyhoos, i'm drier, more comfy and warmer in the winter than my bro than he is on his bike. :)

Yes the "thou" Superbikes are extreme machines with a very high PTW ratio, the BMW with a 12 stone rider is approx 285kg and 675bhp per ton, which is some 4.5 times more than your Cab (150/ton) and 3.3 more than my little 924 (200/ton) which as you say makes them insanely quick in a straight line.

However cornering and braking zones are much less as Impressive with 2 small Tyre contact patches.

Add in the equation the wide talent (or lack of) in riders and a good car driver with a reasonably fast car ! (and not a supercar)

in an environment with lots of corners and stops and it's possibly to hound a bikes progress with some success.

In the respective Sports, 4 wheel's are far faster at lapping circuits, for example at Silverstone a F1 car is 30 seconds quicker

per lap! (Which is staggering) than a Moto GP bike, you must of seen the many You tube Comparisons Bike v Car, Guy Martin did one on a BMW 1000RR v Red Bull F1 the Bikes cannot generate no where near the (G) corner loads and speeds as a 4 wheeler or can they brake in such short distances.

Sure these are extreme Racing machinery on racetracks, but I've found many times on public roads if I'm on a Motorway / Dual then there's no point whatsoever in attempting to out gun a SuperBike, if there are braking zones (Into Roundabouts are my fav) and / or tight corners I'll have a good go and have been Successful many times, often not for long if a Straight section appears! but I'm not convinced there's much skill operating a throttle in anything fast in a straight line....[:)]

R

 
924Srr27l said:
I've found many times on public roads if I'm on a Motorway / Dual then there's no point whatsoever in attempting to out gun a SuperBike, if there are braking zones (Into Roundabouts are my fav) and / or tight corners I'll have a good go and have been Successful many times,

R
I don't agree with you.

This conveniently overlooks the fact that even an average rider on a commuter 600 should already be in front of you into the braking zone/roundabout and blocking you, then leaving you on the exit. Are you driving over the top of them ? More likely your success has been against bikers that didn't realise they were in a race...

 

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