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what did you do to your 944 today

I never did much myself today but I did start my 944 yesterday after putting new leads and sparks in it after having the head skimmed and new gasket and lots of other expensive things to get it running. < And as you can tell am a newbe, I just paid out £70 for a years membership
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Well today it passed its MOT and no advisories

In for a full service tomorrow.

Gutted really as its only done 2k since the last one in 2015.

 
I gave £3,000 to my welding man. Three thousand mother-f*****g pounds, and thats just for the sills, floors, A-post bases and rear suspension mounts. The battery box (thanks Ken) and arch rears are still to do.

I need hot sweet tea.

 
944 man said:
I gave £3,000 to my welding man. Three thousand mother-f*****g pounds, and thats just for the sills, floors, A-post bases and rear suspension mounts. The battery box (thanks Ken) and arch rears are still to do.

I need hot sweet tea.

Bloody hell mate! 😳

I reckon if we all do a thread on how much we’ve spent after the purchase price on our cars we’d all feel a bit sick 🤢 or maybe most of us! ...... if that makes you feel a little better

you got to do what you got to do to keep them good mate 👍 at least you have one! 😉 I spent nearly that much on my 5 series BMW 2 years ago just becuase the battery in the key went flat and corrupted loads of sensors and components on the car which refused to give any ignition untill they were changed and reprogrammed to the new key🤬🤬🤬 needless to say we have now replaced the bloody car! Which is a shame as I loved it but what a waste of money that thing was to fix!!!

 
Talking of cars and silly money to repair, what many people don't realise when buying the latest high spec car is the cost of fixing it. For example, my son recently gave a quote for repair to a friends Merc, it had been hit in the front by someone trying to make a fraudulent insurance claim who braked and then reversed into him after he managed to stop, luckily he had a dashcam. So we are talking a high spec Merc, not brand new, has all the bells and whistles, brake assist, self-drive etc, etc. The damage to the car cosmetically was zero and I mean zero, you couldn't see anything, the cost of repair was £10k? Why you might add, well Merc insisted that among other things all of the sensors for the self-drive would have to be changed even though they hadn't been physically damaged in the impact. I can understand why but hell that put's me off from ever buying new tech, and it will only get worse. The world we live in...lol

Pete

 
Dan944t said:
Bloody hell mate! 😳

I reckon if we all do a thread on how much we’ve spent after the purchase price on our cars we’d all feel a bit sick 🤢 or maybe most of us! ...... if that makes you feel a little better

The main reason over 10 years ago I bought one that had been a garaged, fair weather toy for most of it's 79k miles. I've stuck another 20k on it, and it's been on a wet road only a handful of times. All the 'Garage Queen' comments are drying up now...

 
Whilst I obviously hope that yours is all good, I wonder how many people think that they have a car like that when in actual fact they dont. Mine was a well-used and well maintained car. All of the previous owners have spent the money suggested by the specialists that looked after the car and the service history shows this. In many cases they have spent far too much.

This car showed signs of needing sills in 2011 and it was entrusted to a specialist in Cambridgeshire, who subbed the work to a local bodyshop. The previous owner paid for metal but he received a lot of filler and lies. In 2014 I noticed a white chip at the bottom of the shiny red sill - the writing was on the wall. Careful inspection suggested one outer sill, one section of sill where it was intact but not great and a small floor repair were required. Unfortunately the people entrusted didnt do what they promised and the car ended up being stored inside for four years. It later transpired that for most of this time it was actually outside!

Move forward to October/November 2018 and the car was moved to covered storage in a friend's barn (that sounds so easy - after repeated promises to start, followed by repeated excuses and bullshit, it came to a head and the bodyshop owner threatened to 'push the car down the road with the keys in' if I didnt immediately remove it. This brought everything to a head and extreme violence was threatened in return [out of character but Im big and I meant it and you can only push anyone so far...]. He backed down and I had the car moved to storage the following week). I approached an off-radar Porsche specialiser (as opposed to specialist, which would be misleading) and he came to look at the car in the barn. We now needed inner, intermediate and outer sills, into the floor on both sides, the floor where your outer heel rests on both sides (previously only the driver's) and work to the A-pillar base on both sides. Added to this, which wasnt visible when looking in the barn, a lot of work around the rear suspension mounting points (which had been previously filled - possibly by the cowboy in Cambridgeshire).

It is now something like a tank, with new sills made in far heavier gauge steel and new floor pieces integrated, which replicated the original profiles. I dont have diamonds, but the entire sill is jackable! I have new 'jacking' points all around. The rear wing has been restored using repair panels that I had already. Both wings need the bottoms repairing and the near side wings also needs its front edge remaking where an insurance bodyshop repair had stared to corrode from the inside out.

The car is going back in two weeks to have the battery tray replaced and to have the rears of the rear wheelarches remade, at which point it will be structurally as good as new. It still looks like it has been left outside for years, but Im more concerned about the cars integrity than I am its coachwork, for the time being.

I had intended to use relatively cheap Porsche panels for everything apart from the outer sills (because theyre an accident repair panel they include a lot of door shut which we never need, making them a waster at their new inflated prices). Unfortunately there was a misunderstanding there and unbeknown to me, Des started and completed the work using fabricated replacements. No pictures either, but with most restorers you want these for your own piece of mind, more than to show a prospective purchaser. I know that Des cant actually do a bad job so I wont lose any sleep over it.

Now: a quandary. I have the original all-good fully electric Script interior, which I can keep in. I have as-new black electric leather Sports seats with matching vinyl rear to match, and I also have the rear 'squab' removed from my CS, and Im unsure what I will fit. I also have two rollcages: the first is a homolohated SD P18 (now sold as the P018 and not homologated) which is a conventional 6pt, and the second is a new P013 13pt-er. Im like a child in a sweet shop: ideally I will only have the rear section fitted permanently and the P18 is probably more suitable, but the 13pt rear is SO because racecar!

 
944 man said:
Whilst I obviously hope that yours is all good, I wonder how many people think that they have a car like that when in actual fact they dont. Mine was a well-used and well maintained car. All of the previous owners have spent the money suggested by the specialists that looked after the car and the service history shows this. In many cases they have spent far too much.
We're going over old ground here Simon, but IMO Fat Albert was bent over by the 'Porsche specialist' in Cambs. I tried to buy a 968 from them, but the price went up and down like a new brides knickers. A couple of members on here criticised me for dithering when it took me over a year to buy a car, and it's quite ironic that they're 'restoring' their cars now. I was a time served fabricator/welder when I had to work for a living, so I think I know the difference between metal and rust/filler/underseal when I see it. I looked at a few early £3-4k turbos, and quickly decided they weren't for me....

 
The excessive bills in the history came from the specialist that the previous owner to Jeremy had used. Im not sure whether the people that youre referring to were responsible, or the bodyshop, so Ive assumed the latter.

Without a balaclava, some cable ties and a blow torch we wont ever be sure.

 
Simon, if you have the rear squab left over I would be interested in it, I have 968 CS pole positions in my car and want the rear shelf, already bought carpet with a view to making one.

 
Somewhat less exciting, and good to have you back Simon, I finally traced my rear hatch rattle. After identifying the seat belt as the culprit (it wasn't!), turns out it was the heat shield above the exhaust back box. It's a bit worse for wear and tie wrapped at the exhaust hanger, a bit of shuffling and tightening the tie wrap and we have glorious silence from the hatch area! Will call OPC tomorrow for a price for a new one. 6 months of hell behind me and thankfully the hatch is all good. Feared the worst that it had started to unbond itself from the frame as there were no suspects left. Turns out that heat shield was fooling me all along!

Stuart

 
Sorry Jim, its from my old car and kept for sentimental reasons. I sold the steering wheel in 2001 which I now regret, so I will keep this. I can take a picture if itll help - Ive seen some pretty impressive substitutes recently. Doesnt ElDave have one?

 
Mine is “functional” - got a trimmer to order in some appropriate carpet and carpet the rear section.

It’s not perfect but you’d be hard pushed to get close enough to tell.

 
Replaced the 1st of the 2 door window outer bottom seals-turned out to be a relatively straight forward task .I replaced 1 retaining clip(bought several ,just in case) flexing the ready cambered strip upwards carefully in the middle to insert the 2 ends & used my rubber mallet to tap it down carefully into each clip & the seal lip into the groove in the metal window trim.

Tomorrow ,it's the driver's door's turn.What I've found really useful for the task is the collection of plastic trim removal tools bought off ebay ,mainly for work on the BMW( recently had the CCC unit rebuilt & sections of the dash,centre console have to come out).

 
vitesse said:
Replaced the 1st of the 2 door window outer bottom seals-turned out to be a relatively straight forward task .I replaced 1 retaining clip(bought several ,just in case) flexing the ready cambered strip upwards carefully in the middle to insert the 2 ends & used my rubber mallet to tap it down carefully into each clip & the seal lip into the groove in the metal window trim.

Tomorrow ,it's the driver's door's turn.What I've found really useful for the task is the collection of plastic trim removal tools bought off ebay ,mainly for work on the BMW( recently had the CCC unit rebuilt & sections of the dash,centre console have to come out).

Can I ask where you bought your seals from, I bought a set from Desiqn 911 when putting the car back on the road and couldn't get them to fit. On closer inspection, the profile is slightly different to OEM which I think is why the seal won't lock down? I just put them back in the box and forgot about them, the seals do desperately need changing though.

Pete

To add: could you possibly take a picture of the seal yet to fit end on so I can see if your's are any different please?

 
Peter,

I bought them from Porsche ,Bolton-initially I ordered what I thought I had chosen from PET as these seals only to find that I was sent the black metal trims-fortunately Bolton OPC were prepared to take them back(special order from Germany) & supply the correct part nos.

I'll look out the paperwork,take a pic or 2 & post the info in a later post.

I carefully compared the the old & new before fitting & they are identical allowing for 33 yrs of general decay.

One tip to pass on:-whenever I take door cards off an old car,& these are the originals,I think with an indented mark-FIBRIT

I always give any soft or soggy areas ,especially the location holes for the PLIP plugs,a few coats of model dope ( or rotten wood hardener).

Colin.

 
The metal bits might be the bits I need - can you PM me the part numbers and cost please?

If they’re right then I’ll get my OPC to get them transferred from Bolton

 

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