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FrankM said:
Hi, not sure about lead times. The few dealers I enquired with wanted 5k deposit to secure an order slot.
Toby
I have been to PC Bolton a few times to look at the models in the flesh. But decided to get in touch with PC Kendal because it is a family owed dealership! and I knew someone who bought a GTS from there who recommended them. I spoke to the owner a couple of times at the back end of the 991 run, but decide to wait for the 992. I placed the deposit over the phone/email, but they haven't given me any indiction of delivery as yet.FrankM said:
Toby
mphillips
PCGB Member
FrankM said:
You're buying a car Frank – if a dealer makes it any harder than buying any other car (don't get me started on GT3s) then I'd walk and go see a more friendly shop [
]Walk in to your local and go see a friendly face. If they have any snobbery or lack customer focus, walk and go see the next nearest dealer. This is a pricey toy you're buying, being treated like any other human being should be the order of the day IMHO.
For what it's worth, my local dealer was perfectly friendly and helpful when I called them to ask what the deposit and ordering process was. I then dropped in to see the chap I'd talked to on the phone, and he happily took my 5k
Car arrived roughly 10 months later.
Phil
Adaptive cruise control is great, I would highly recommend it. I have driven a number of cars with ACC, they are not all the same, some are very intrusive. The Porsche system appears very sophisticated, for instance if someone pulls in front of you on the motorway whilst accelerating away in front of you the Porsche system doesn’t slam the brakes on, it just reduces the speed slightly until the safe distance is regained.
Mike
Adaptive cruise control is great, I would highly recommend it. I have driven a number of cars with ACC, they are not all the same, some are very intrusive. The Porsche system appears very sophisticated, for instance if someone pulls in front of you on the motorway whilst accelerating away in front of you the Porsche system doesn’t slam the brakes on, it just reduces the speed slightly until the safe distance is regained.
Mike
Back from LA and can say it is a beautiful machine. The trip was well worth it to see the car in the flesh and to play with the configurator while having the cars in front of you. They had two silver cars there as well as a Racing Yellow, Genetian Blue and Aventurine Green. However both the silver cars were Dolomite Silver. My son wants to go with silver and the glass sunroof but now needs to look at the difference between the two silvers. Apart from that he more or less has his spec sorted although he felt there should have been a larger selection of wheels.
Porsche on the stand were not opening the cars for anyone and it took some mighty persuading and a view of the deposit form to allow us to sit inside the vehicle.
Porsche on the stand were not opening the cars for anyone and it took some mighty persuading and a view of the deposit form to allow us to sit inside the vehicle.
The deposit is usually £5000 and the lead time will depend on your dealer - my dealership has taken over 50 orders already so the quicker you get to yours the quicker you will get one.FrankM said:
Anyone had experience of the glass sunroof? Huw, I think you may have done. Someone posted on another forum that it compromised rigidity and creaked. I'm thinking of having it this time around but wanted a second opinion.
Also, my OPC told me that PPF will be available from the factory! Front wings, bonnet, bumper and sideskirts. Great news and you can still put GTechniq EXO ceramic coating on top.
Mine is a work in progress - nowhere near finalised and may ditch PDDC
http://www.porsche-code.com/PLCEAXF7
Phil, your spec looks very nice, as do the others. Still can't get past Guards Red myself, that'll be six in a row...
Also, my OPC told me that PPF will be available from the factory! Front wings, bonnet, bumper and sideskirts. Great news and you can still put GTechniq EXO ceramic coating on top.
Mine is a work in progress - nowhere near finalised and may ditch PDDC
http://www.porsche-code.com/PLCEAXF7
Phil, your spec looks very nice, as do the others. Still can't get past Guards Red myself, that'll be six in a row...
mphillips
PCGB Member
pwebb said:
I’ve got it on my 991.2 and it’s fine. No creaking. It makes the cabin really nice and light – I have the blind open 99.9% of the time. In summer it was ace winding it all the way back and having both door windows down too.
Good options list you have in that spec
Can’t remember where I read it, saw it, or heard it – but PDCC, apparently, robs some ‘feel’ from the car as it keeps it so flat. If you prefer shifting the weight of the car around yourself it could be 2.5k saved.
pwebb said:
Wouldn't go there myself for the following reasons:-
- Big hole in the bodyshell reduces torsional rigidity.
- The glass roof adds a significant weight in completely the wrong place to the determent of road-holding.
- It's something else to go wrong.
- It reduces the effectiveness of the aircon.
- In my area, birds seem wedded to the idea of destroying the weather seals around the circumference. (I assume its something to do with seeing their reflection in the glass.)
Clive
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Visually externally it is a stunning 911. I also like the vintage 911 font at the back. Internally, I find it very disappointing. The seats have become very squared off and angular, the gear lever is like a Remington electric shaver, I can't stand the digital dash and the token analogue rev counter and somehow, the steering wheel isn't as attractive as the previous incarnation and much less sporty. It also seems considerably more pricey than the 991.2 equivalent.
hi Peter
Correct, I have had the last of my two GTS with the glass roof, and will also spec the 992 with one. I have not experienced and loss of rigidity or creaking. It makes the inside a lot lighter, and it is my compromise to Carol in having a coupe rather than a cab. One negative comment I have on the glass roof, it easily can get scuff marks. I had a Porsche car cover and found it marked the fixed part of the glass roof at the rear and have decided not use again.
I specified PDCC on my present car, but I don't think I will include on the 992. I don't do track days, and therefore consider it not necessary for most of my road driving. One option I will certainly will include will be the RWS. I have it on the present car and I consider a well worth option.
Correct, I have had the last of my two GTS with the glass roof, and will also spec the 992 with one. I have not experienced and loss of rigidity or creaking. It makes the inside a lot lighter, and it is my compromise to Carol in having a coupe rather than a cab. One negative comment I have on the glass roof, it easily can get scuff marks. I had a Porsche car cover and found it marked the fixed part of the glass roof at the rear and have decided not use again.
I specified PDCC on my present car, but I don't think I will include on the 992. I don't do track days, and therefore consider it not necessary for most of my road driving. One option I will certainly will include will be the RWS. I have it on the present car and I consider a well worth option.
mphillips
PCGB Member
I think any of us mere mortals would seriously struggle to show there’s any ‘compromise’ in a 911’s handling thanks to a sunroof [] Of all the driver training I’ve done in my 991 over the last 18 months the most striking thing I’ve learnt is that the car will eternally be more capable than I am.
Secondly, despite the sunroof, it is not ‘not stiff’. I do my own winter wheel replacement every year, and I start by getting the car up on wheel stands, with all four wheels off. It’s easy to get the front stands on the jack points by jacking *from the rear jack point*. The car is so stiff it lifts the whole side up from that one jack point. Compare that to my missus’ much shorter, but obviously more flexible, Fiat 500, which only lifts a corner at a time.
It’s dogma to say modern sports car torsional stiffness is compromised by a sunroof I’d proffer. Maybe if it was modelled mathematically, perhaps. But real world feel? Nah, it takes nothing away IMHO.
] Of all the driver training I’ve done in my 991 over the last 18 months the most striking thing I’ve learnt is that the car will eternally be more capable than I am.Secondly, despite the sunroof, it is not ‘not stiff’. I do my own winter wheel replacement every year, and I start by getting the car up on wheel stands, with all four wheels off. It’s easy to get the front stands on the jack points by jacking *from the rear jack point*. The car is so stiff it lifts the whole side up from that one jack point. Compare that to my missus’ much shorter, but obviously more flexible, Fiat 500, which only lifts a corner at a time.
It’s dogma to say modern sports car torsional stiffness is compromised by a sunroof I’d proffer. Maybe if it was modelled mathematically, perhaps. But real world feel? Nah, it takes nothing away IMHO.
Very good video of the new 992 if you have spare 70 minutes. Very informative. I want one []
https://youtu.be/sdDzXR1aOsc
]https://youtu.be/sdDzXR1aOsc
I was also a bit wary of the digital dash when I got my Panamera. After living with it for 12 months I really like it. In reality you spend most of the time focused on the central analogue dial and integral digital speedo, configure the set-up on the other four dials to your preferred display mode and then just leave them alone. Biggest issue is the central display which can do so much it is best left alone while you concentrate on driving...
Peter, as you know my C4 GTS has the glass sunroof as does my new Macan. It lets a lot of light into the car and has the option of closing the internal blind if parked in the sun. It's also great when getting back in after the car has been parked for a while in the sun, just open the roof and let the bubble of hot air escape. It makes the interior feel more spacious.cymro said:
Of course the danger of asking any question like that here is you will get so many different opinions??
Update on the ppf - as I mentioned above, the factory now offers their own ppf to the front end; wings, bumper, bonnet and top half of the wing mirrors but oddly not the sideskirts. All for the princely sum of £1295 (unless the prices go up[]). Apparently, the website price listing is down in order to facilitate the adjustment of the WLTP for each and every option - the fact that the prices may go up is not as yet confirmed...
Anyway, I sat with the dealer and ditched the Adaptive cruise, Front lift, the PDLS matrix, but added a couple of bits and pieces, and for the first time ever came out of the showroom with a car costing less than the spec I went in with!!! Still a £115k car though[&o]
]). Apparently, the website price listing is down in order to facilitate the adjustment of the WLTP for each and every option - the fact that the prices may go up is not as yet confirmed...Anyway, I sat with the dealer and ditched the Adaptive cruise, Front lift, the PDLS matrix, but added a couple of bits and pieces, and for the first time ever came out of the showroom with a car costing less than the spec I went in with!!! Still a £115k car though[&o]
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