Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

[spyderwhite]

ORIGINAL: Nick_USA

ORIGINAL: spyderwhite i still havent found out why porsche made the spyder as a 2012 model as the 981 is also a 2012 model year?but must have done this for a reason.

Nothing to do with us Europeans .... it's the USA market; the US 981 Boxster is a 2013 model and the new US Cayman is a 2014 model ..... it's all about the model year in the US and not the registration year that drives sales. My 57 registered Orange Edition is a 2008 model for the same reason it bridged to gap between the 2007 987.1 and the 987.2 (2009 for the US).

so are you saying porsche created 2012 model year to boost sales in the usa of the spyder if so it didnt work as less than 20% of the total cars built are 2012 model year here in the uk the new 981 cayman are also 2014 model years but our 987.1 included 2008 model year and were built on into what would have been a 2009 model year ie i had a caymanS built november 2008 whereas september 2008 is usually the start for 2009 model year followed by run out models of the same year.then the 987.2 started as 2009 model year in early 2009

 

[billy1]

ORIGINAL: spyderwhite

The VIN # is irrelevant now except to those who, strangely enough, have the later cars! It really doesn't make much difference in the market because there was no significant changes between the model years

i beg to differ if looking for say a 6gt3rs in 20 years time i would look for a 2004 model year and not 2003 or a sport classic one with a number close to 250 and not 001 but of course condition is paramount i still havent found out why porsche made the spyder as a 2012 model as the 981 is also a 2012 model year?but must have done this for a reason. there must be differences however slight may be an improved ecu after all the turbo lag stories of the caymanR ? my car suffers none of the 3rd or 4 th gear at 50kmh/32mph issues also extra options became avaliable later in the model life my car has the alcantara steering wheel,gearstick,handbrake which became available in later builds.

Well the extra options are only relevant if they are fitted - and again, spec really doesn't make a substantial difference to this market as there are just so few cars about. The only reason that a 2012 MY car would be worth more than a 2011 MY car would be if the newer car was improved - but there were no significant revisions during the Spyder production life. The only thing I've noticed is that on later cars the "electonic spoiler" switch has been removed - although why it was included in the first place I have no idea!

 

[spyderwhite]

just been digging in the porsche website PET and i think i have a 2012 engine number as well but not 100% need to find out what sort of letters/numbers 2011 model year cars engine numbers are. mine starts CCO2***

 

[spyderwhite]

still beg to differ if i was looking for say a 997.2 c2s i would look for a 2011 model year over a 2010 model although no change in spec.just because its the newer car

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: flat6 I'm in a sticky situation and may have to let my pride and joy help resuscitate another car with a jump start. Any Porsche quirks I need to watch out for? Thanks

I realise my previous message didn't make sense. Anyway, Spyder turned recovery vehicle and jump started another car[]

 

[MrDemon]

No one looks at vin number bar you (unless on older cars and then people pay massive amount for matching number engine and cars) as with GT3's no one cares about vin numbers or model years, the cars are so rare you have to buy on condition alone. Spec , well you will never get your perfect spec unless buying new, so every one has to make a compromise. Cayman R price have a 15k gap between spec, so to say spec makes no odds is daft. Again no one cares about the year of the R, just spec, I would pay 1k more for a early car with leather than the latest car with out. there is a buyer for every car if the price is right ;-)

 

[billy1]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon Cayman R price have a 15k gap between spec, so to say spec makes no odds is daft.

On Spyders it doesn't seem to make much odds - a maximum of a few £k. Ditto colour - it really doesn't seem to matter that much.

 

[spyderwhite]

the thing with say the 996gt3 they were pretty much went straight from the factory to the road which was common for most new porsches but with the onset of the rescession many cars were dealer ordered and tended to sit around awaiting sale some in excess of a year. for example you have 2 spyders one was built to customer order in april.2010 and was registered may.2010 another car was built feb.2010 dealer ordered and was not sold registered to october 2010.so which is the newer car?so when looking at buying a second hand porsche i would say the chassis number is part of its history and tells you the exact age over the registration.so if the two cars condition mileage were the same and similar spec i would be more interested in the may 2010 car with the higher chassis number.but it gets worse i have seen early2010 model year c2s (ie built september 2009)registered in 2011 in dealers priced as if they were a 2011 model year,so buyer beware. thats why i place much interest on the chassis number especially cars built 2009 onwards and i believe dealers do the same. end of

 

[spyderwhite]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon No one looks at vin number bar you (unless on older cars and then people pay massive amount for matching number engine and cars) as with GT3's no one cares about vin numbers or model years, the cars are so rare you have to buy on condition alone. Spec , well you will never get your perfect spec unless buying new, so every one has to make a compromise. Cayman R price have a 15k gap between spec, so to say spec makes no odds is daft. Again no one cares about the year of the R, just spec, I would pay 1k more for a early car with leather than the latest car with out. there is a buyer for every car if the price is right ;-)

never seen price gap that big yes a bad caymanR goes for mid to high 30s and a good one low to mid 40s.and i would look for the 2012 model year which the last one rolled of the german line in feb.2012

 

[spyderwhite]

if you notice of the 6 spyders for sale the 3 cheapest ie £40k and below have the lowest chassis numbers and the 3 in excess of £40k are higher chassis numbers or late 2011 model year cars

 

[rob.kellock]

You can't read the chassis number of mine from here:

Thank goodness it has manual gears, bucket seats, Spyder alloys, sports exhaust and sports chrono! As for its value, I no longer care. It won't ever be for sale if I can possibly help it. Enjoy the cars gents, I have come to the firm view that they are better enjoyed than parked.

 

[spyderwhite]

ORIGINAL: rob.kellock You can't read the chassis number of mine from here:

Thank goodness it has manual gears, bucket seats, Spyder alloys, sports exhaust and sports chrono! As for its value, I no longer care. It won't ever be for sale if I can possibly help it. Enjoy the cars gents, I have come to the firm view that they are better enjoyed than parked.

and theres the thing all the nicely specd manual cars tend to be kept hold of and owners wont part with easily

 

[daro911]

Here we have a high spec low mileage low priced Spyder [] http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/porsche-boxster-987-gen-ii-spyder-2010/1317037 Higher mileage higher priced bucket seat example [&o] http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/porsche-boxster-spyder/1316920

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: rob.kellock

As for its value, I no longer care. It won't ever be for sale if I can possibly help it. Enjoy the cars gents, I have come to the firm view that they are better enjoyed than parked.

I hear you Rob. If it's GREAT to drive then just drive it - that's the best way to get your money's worth and put a smile on your face. Mine is a keeper so I don't worry excessively about mileage. I know i'll drive it less when it get's promoted to garage queen when it's older.

If it's just GOOD to drive then maybe one would be more inclined to park it up more, just look at it and try to speculate what it might be worth 10 years AFTER you've probably sold it[]

 

[kitchens]

ORIGINAL: daro911 Here we have a high spec low mileage low priced Spyder [] http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/porsche-boxster-987-gen-ii-spyder-2010/1317037 Higher mileage higher priced bucket seat example [&o] http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/porsche-boxster-spyder/1316920

I do not understand why one would sell for such a low price when they could get a lot more for their cars even add a Porsche warranty and they would be £3-4 cheaper than an opc .Will be interesting to see how long they stay unsold and may put in a cheeky price for the PDK one[]

 

[MrDemon]

ORIGINAL: spyderwhite

ORIGINAL: MrDemon No one looks at vin number bar you (unless on older cars and then people pay massive amount for matching number engine and cars) as with GT3's no one cares about vin numbers or model years, the cars are so rare you have to buy on condition alone. Spec , well you will never get your perfect spec unless buying new, so every one has to make a compromise. Cayman R price have a 15k gap between spec, so to say spec makes no odds is daft. Again no one cares about the year of the R, just spec, I would pay 1k more for a early car with leather than the latest car with out. there is a buyer for every car if the price is right ;-)

never seen price gap that big yes a bad caymanR goes for mid to high 30s and a good one low to mid 40s.and i would look for the 2012 model year which the last one rolled of the german line in feb.2012

Interesting choice of words, "a bad Cayman R" lol but there is one at £51k still most are high 40’s at opc's Not fussed about age , myself, just the spec. Out of a choice of 10 on all sites, only 2 cars were manual so you either pay more for what you want or go with out.

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: flat6

ORIGINAL: daro911 Spydermen if you refer to the "Boxster Register" in this months Porsche Post Tracy & Cliff have kindly mentioned our forum in despatches and we are going for gold in the forum record books []

Wow! We got a mention in Porsche Post. Thanks Tracy & Cliff! Well, for any new readers on here, here's a summary of where a lot of info, pics, links to written & video reviews. [link=http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=719756&mpage=1]http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=719756&mpage=1[/link] (all the early reviews) [link=http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=719756&mpage=38]http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=719756&mpage=38[/link] (amongst other things there are many reviews in amongst the pics. Also my personal ramblings after driving 981 Boxster and Cayman R) [link=http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=719756&mpage=58]http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=719756&mpage=58[/link] (nice pics[]) [link=http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=719756&mpage=110]http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=719756&mpage=110[/link] (981 Cayman feels a bit like a Spyder to drive) I will have no doubt missed plenty, so if anything springs to mind Spydermen, please post them up so that new readers can catch up []

It's time to dig the videos out again. Here's one to warm up[] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Dqczu9NO0&sns=em

 

[billy1]

ORIGINAL: kitchens

ORIGINAL: daro911 Here we have a high spec low mileage low priced Spyder [] http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/porsche-boxster-987-gen-ii-spyder-2010/1317037 Higher mileage higher priced bucket seat example [&o] http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/boxster-987-05-12/porsche-boxster-spyder/1316920

I do not understand why one would sell for such a low price when they could get a lot more for their cars even add a Porsche warranty and they would be £3-4 cheaper than an opc .Will be interesting to see how long they stay unsold and may put in a cheeky price for the PDK one[]

First one is a good value car - I doubt it will hang around long. They are both early cars so I can only presume that they're at the end of the three year lease deals.

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: billy1 There are never that many cars available so buyers can't really afford to be too picky if they actually want a Spyder.

ORIGINAL: spyderwhite i think you will find a lot of peoples 3 year pcps are coming to an end hence the rise in early spyders

Good points. So this year could turn out to be the year of highest used Spyder supply since production ceased. May be the year for people to grab a bargain before supply dries up again. The market may not stabilise for at least another year then?

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: flat6

ORIGINAL: spyderwhite i think you will find a lot of peoples 3 year pcps are coming to an end hence the rise in early spyders

Good points. So this year could turn out to be the year of highest used Spyder supply since production ceased. May be the year for people to grab a bargain before supply dries up again. The market may not stabilise for at least another year then?

The market won't stabilise for another 3 years as some of the pcp's would have been for 4 years and some would not have been taken out until 2011 From 2016 on I think most Spyders would have found homes by people looking to them as (indefinite) keepers unless of course Porsche throw the 981 Spyder spanner into the works even if only as pre released early testing mules [8D]