The storage would come in handy too, there's not much otherwise. I did use the air con recently in France - it was 34ºC and when driving slowly through towns it was a godsend!ORIGINAL: flat6The storage cavity replacing the radio wouldn't bother me aesthetically. I'd happily go without carpets, electric windows and climate control too (but more likely on a Cayman). I guess it also depends on whether it's your first, second or third car in your stable.ORIGINAL: daro911 I really do dislike the big black hole having no radio leaves in dash and would have a radio just for that reason alone []
Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
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http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=28701 We had to ask. Even though we could probably have written out the answer for ourselves. When Dale explored the whole 'sub seven' issue shortly before Porsche confirmed it'd done just that in the 918 Spyder he had a McLaren bod he'd met out there as saying, "Without a sub-seven lap time, we probably won't even mention we were at the Nurburgring." Well, the rumour mill said on the first attempt the P1 went 7min 4sec and now it's saying on a return visit it's done 6min 47sec. Off the back of confirming the P1's performance stats you'd have thought a lap time would've rounded things off nicely, not to mention throwing a gauntlet down to LaFerrari. 4C fastest in ... the class it claims as its own 4C fastest in ... the class it claims as its ownBut when we asked McLaren we were told, perhaps unsurprisingly, "It is all just purely speculation. There is no secret that a car is over in Germany at the moment with a team of development engineers, who are working on calibrations and final tuning, but no lap times of any circuits have been set." Apart from the '10 seconds faster than anyone' around the Top Gear test track, claimed by one Ron Dennis, that is. Moving on, if the P1 remains bashful about its lap time at the 'ring the Alfa Romeo 4C is anything but and having set a time of 8min 4sec Alfa Romeo has hunted around for a category in which this is the fastest time and settled on ' fastest time of cars with engines under 250hp'. Set by official 'ring hand Horst von Saurma just a couple of weeks after Porsche set its record the time proves ... that. Anyone care to lend us an S2 Exige S?ORIGINAL: MrDemon the 4c has posted its ring time 8.04.40 on r spec Pirelli P Zero Trofeo tyres. http://youtu.be/xWznFj1GQQg not sure why the whole lap is not posted though :-(
Dyllan, get Linda to try out a Spyder. She may allow you to divert some funds from the Poole build - might save you money in the long run [ORIGINAL: daro911It will only rest in peace when we see you and Linda in your new S P Y D E R [ORIGINAL: dyllan Does this thread now RIP till the next one comes on sale Robert?[
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I wonder how much time you save taping up all the shut lines ? I bet they wanted a sub 8 minutes, over 8 minutes is a non starter these days. esp after the BMW CSL did a 7:50 way back 10 years a go and now a hot hatch can do 8.10. normal cars now need to start with a 7 and Hyper cars now need to start with a 6.
Do people who actually buy cars care though? If I was in the market for a 918 Spyder, a P1 or a LaFerari, its 'ring time wouldn't be a factor. I couldn't care less about the performance figures of my Spyder. It's how it feels that gives me pleasure and what makes it great, not how fast it goes!
For those of you on here who like modding their cars this is about as far as one could probably go performance and £pound wise [] Following a long tradition of profoundly transforming Porsche products, RUF Automobile presented the 3800 S at the 2013 Geneva Motor Show. With the 3800 S, RUF marries the 911 Carrera S drivetrain to the inherently balanced mid-engined chassis of the very latest 981 model Porsche Boxster or Cayman. The complete drivetrain is removed along with the entire suspension setup. The 911 drivetrain is modified in terms of engine management, calibration, power and layout to fit the Boxster Chassis and fitted with an electronically switchable sports exhaust. The modified drivetrain is subsequently fitted to the chassis and the suspension is optimized to match the revised characteristics of the 3.8 litre Carrera S engine which produces 420 bhp and 450 Nm of torque. The 3800 S is available with either a 6 speed manual or a 7 speed double clutch transmission. The 3800 S is not merely a heart transplant though, the RUF special touches can be seen all over the car including unique body styling treatment featuring carbon fibre elements and the unmistakeable RUF alloy wheels. The interior receives attention from RUF to every point that the driver touches including the legendary RUF logo on the seats, RUF steering wheel, gear selector and aluminium pedals and a 200 mph speedometer with numerals in classic RUF green. The RUF 3800 S combines the power of the 911 Carrera S and the nimble balance of the Boxster or Cayman to produce a car that is as at home on the circuit as it is in the city. The right hand drive 3800 S roadster that we are offering is brand new and unregistered and is fitted with the optional double clutch transmission. The Carrera White paintwork is complemented by a black leather sports interior and black painted 20″ alloy wheels. RUF cars are handbuilt in small numbers so it is highly unlikely you will ever see another like it. Features: 3.8 Litre Flat 6 Engine Producing 420hp (309 kW), 7 Speed Double Clutch Transmission, Electronically switchable sports exhaust with 4 tailpipes, 5-spoke 20″ forged light-alloy wheels by RUF, 6 Piston front and 4 piston rear monoblock red painted calipers with RUF logo, Bi-Xenon-head lights including dynamic headlight leveling and headlamp cleaning system Options include: Park assist front and rear, Wind deflector, 7 Speed double clutch transmission, Wheels painted black, Two zone automatic climate control, Alarm system with interior surveillance, Preparation for RUF Vehicle Tracking System (RVTS), Seat heating, Leather Seats, Communication Management including navigation module with AUX and USB interface, Mobile phone preparation, BOSE surround sound system Price: €108,533.50 + VAT + delivery & registration Bob Forstner Park Lane are the official agent for Ruf Automobile in the UK. We would be delighted to assist with any enquiries you may have whether related to new cars, pre-owned cars or to upgrades for existing Porsche cars. Please call 0207 629 7020 for more information.
] Following a long tradition of profoundly transforming Porsche products, RUF Automobile presented the 3800 S at the 2013 Geneva Motor Show. With the 3800 S, RUF marries the 911 Carrera S drivetrain to the inherently balanced mid-engined chassis of the very latest 981 model Porsche Boxster or Cayman. The complete drivetrain is removed along with the entire suspension setup. The 911 drivetrain is modified in terms of engine management, calibration, power and layout to fit the Boxster Chassis and fitted with an electronically switchable sports exhaust. The modified drivetrain is subsequently fitted to the chassis and the suspension is optimized to match the revised characteristics of the 3.8 litre Carrera S engine which produces 420 bhp and 450 Nm of torque. The 3800 S is available with either a 6 speed manual or a 7 speed double clutch transmission. The 3800 S is not merely a heart transplant though, the RUF special touches can be seen all over the car including unique body styling treatment featuring carbon fibre elements and the unmistakeable RUF alloy wheels. The interior receives attention from RUF to every point that the driver touches including the legendary RUF logo on the seats, RUF steering wheel, gear selector and aluminium pedals and a 200 mph speedometer with numerals in classic RUF green. The RUF 3800 S combines the power of the 911 Carrera S and the nimble balance of the Boxster or Cayman to produce a car that is as at home on the circuit as it is in the city. The right hand drive 3800 S roadster that we are offering is brand new and unregistered and is fitted with the optional double clutch transmission. The Carrera White paintwork is complemented by a black leather sports interior and black painted 20″ alloy wheels. RUF cars are handbuilt in small numbers so it is highly unlikely you will ever see another like it. Features: 3.8 Litre Flat 6 Engine Producing 420hp (309 kW), 7 Speed Double Clutch Transmission, Electronically switchable sports exhaust with 4 tailpipes, 5-spoke 20″ forged light-alloy wheels by RUF, 6 Piston front and 4 piston rear monoblock red painted calipers with RUF logo, Bi-Xenon-head lights including dynamic headlight leveling and headlamp cleaning system Options include: Park assist front and rear, Wind deflector, 7 Speed double clutch transmission, Wheels painted black, Two zone automatic climate control, Alarm system with interior surveillance, Preparation for RUF Vehicle Tracking System (RVTS), Seat heating, Leather Seats, Communication Management including navigation module with AUX and USB interface, Mobile phone preparation, BOSE surround sound system Price: €108,533.50 + VAT + delivery & registration Bob Forstner Park Lane are the official agent for Ruf Automobile in the UK. We would be delighted to assist with any enquiries you may have whether related to new cars, pre-owned cars or to upgrades for existing Porsche cars. Please call 0207 629 7020 for more information.
good point cecil !!(and robert!) hadnt even crossed my mind she might want to drive it-she currently loves her BMW (sad deluded girl!)and only drives mine when i am nackered at the end of a days fun driving on the continent. but youre right that would be scary if she actually wanted to drive it -we cant have that[] although it may be worth getting her to test one if it means i get one sooner!! poole project coming on well at last so there may yet be some light at the end of my spyder tunnel!!if there are ever any more on sale []
] although it may be worth getting her to test one if it means i get one sooner!! poole project coming on well at last so there may yet be some light at the end of my spyder tunnel!!if there are ever any more on sale []
I feel for you Dyllan and look forward to you getting your wish for a Spyder and I am sure as the years roll by their will be good suitable examples coming to the market but probably not via OPC's for much longer [8D] Glad to hear the poole project is progressing nicelyORIGINAL: dyllan poole project coming on well at last so there may yet be some light at the end of my spyder tunnel!!if there are ever any more on sale [
Great day at Oulton Park again today!! It was nice to meet up with old friends and some new including Mr D who came down and it was good to meet up and put a face to the name It was a shame Cecil didn't make it, and was a duly missed Spyderman [] Track was very slippery in the morning but I have to say all of the brake mods I did paid off and the brake pedal was perfect all day. Now all that's needed is some work on the driver, although I've been trying to repair the nail marks Rob K left on passenger side of my dash [] I'm downloading a very long vid which will be boring to most who weren't on the track at the time but you'll see how slippery the track was in places (Which seemed to changed lap by lap) but I'll post a link to it for anyone who wants a watch later. It was good to meet a few CR owners 5 including Mr D and myself!!
It was a shame Cecil didn't make it, and was a duly missed Spyderman [] Track was very slippery in the morning but I have to say all of the brake mods I did paid off and the brake pedal was perfect all day. Now all that's needed is some work on the driver, although I've been trying to repair the nail marks Rob K left on passenger side of my dash [] I'm downloading a very long vid which will be boring to most who weren't on the track at the time but you'll see how slippery the track was in places (Which seemed to changed lap by lap) but I'll post a link to it for anyone who wants a watch later. It was good to meet a few CR owners 5 including Mr D and myself!!
PS: Mr D..... you didn't hang about getting back home [:-]
made it back for 7pm with a 15 minute stop off for a big mac as I was freezing. , was not hanging about. great to meet up and say hi though, what did you think to the Green R, did you drive it on track at the end ? , just interested to see what you think to PCCB's it was interesting that guy was also a racer, said he was gaining on braking but mid corner and out the bends you were pulling away. I can use my PCCB to great effect, and I am still gob smacked switching between my 2 cars and the change in braking performance. It's good to see the GT3 MC and a few upgrades has made a change for the better on the steels. And did you like the PDK ? I always find watching vids the gear changes after the bend not before and that is what put me off wanting PDK and of course loaning one for a day. I like to get my gear changes done before the bend then power though, PDK seem not to work that way, you then power out the bend and it drops 2 cogs. If you are forced to then change gear manual, you may as well save the weight and have a manual lol PDK is not quite there yet imo, would be nice to try the 991 GT3 PDK designed to be a proper racer style box, but I still get my thrills from down shifting, putting in a perfect heal and toe and having a feel good factor about it all. Clicking a Micro switch for me at this point in time leaves me cold and makes the car dull and in full Auto it's still a failed system and not clever enough. just need to get the short shift now and that brings the changes much closer together, with a nice short solid action.
Yes I went out with him as a passenger and the braking was incredible. I was always under the impression that the PCCB just stopped the brakes overheating, but were much the same otherwise..... I was rudely awoken!! The brakes are killer!! I'd love a set of those [ORIGINAL: MrDemon
] The PDK was an interesting thing. The changes were definitely a lot quicker and worth a few 10ths but it seemed to go into no mans land mid corner with no revs (I suppose trying to decide whether the next change will be up or down) and I found that a bit alien. The other thing with the PDK was it made the whole ride a lot smoother, especially in the slippy bits which could easily reduce a lap time, although I'm 100% with you on the manual shifting and being in control of how many cogs you need to shift down, and I think I'm glad I bought a manual, it certainly suits me better being old school, but the PDK certainly has some advantages....maybe once they make it an exact science it will be the way to go. Although nothing taken away from Chris, he was certainly a very very quick driver [8D]
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