Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
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Seems fairly relevant to me then. He's spent 12k in years 5 and 6. Many of us are just starting year 4, so only a year away potentially - sorry to say!!ORIGINAL: MrDemonBut that's on a gen 1, 6 year old car.ORIGINAL: dyllan in the last 2 years I have needed approx. £12k works under warranty just saying[]
I had a gen 1 car, the gen 2 is a far better built car with a far better engine. I would say to have a 12k bill must have been engine related anyway and as we all know gen 1 engines have issues. So it would be better to state what the 12k bills were for and not just blanket say "I have had £12k of work done" also quote the mileage of the car. you also have to think about what real costs would be at a indy and not Porsche repair prices and hourly rates. If it's engine related claim you may as well be quoting 8k Ferrari Manafold repair bills. I also note on the many forums I look at, the main warranty issues are smaller things like electrics seats, AC, PCM , electric roof etc etc AC is a major issue on all older cars and condensors always fail and AC is always a bug bare later in life. My car will have none of those issues as it has none of those parts lol So as nothing that wears (disk, shocks, brakes, clutch etc) is covered and my car has none of the main parts which cause issues, you are really only buying a engine and gearbox warranty and you may as well go on a Hartech plan if that scares you.
ok already ......gees I have stated on this forum already that the £12k was for both engine AND gearbox rebuild,both at 35k miles.there were also some sensor replacements and odds and sods about £2k over the 2yrs. I agree with you that gen 1 cars are more likely to have probs than the DFI engines.so if I was in your shoes I would def think carefully before splashing out £5k for warranty. that said,as the 991 next spring will have PDK I may do the extended warranty on that when the time comes as I gather that's quite costly and not without its problems(albeit rare)-so if I had a gen 2 with pdk(esp the 1st gen pdk)I might still consider the warranty
so it's not a like for like and just another 12k engine headline scare story which is well know on gen 1 cars. warranty will be needed on these newer cars once they age, the new GT3 with 27 ECU, electric every thing, 4WS etc etc is just bound to have issues down the line. owing a 8 year old one of those out of warranty might just be too much for some to take on. As your figures already scared GRAHAM I just wanted it cleared up
I guess on a gen 1 car when an engine lets go the warranty has been great value. My reason to extend the warranty on the Spyder is strategic as I may still sell end up selling it within a year. The warranty provides some reassurance to the buyer as it's transferable and also passing the 111 point check at its current mileage proves no unacceptable over-revs up to that point. As I got a special offer waiver of the 111 point check cost and Porsche Assist cost, it was a no-brainer. I couldn't keep paying the warranty year on year though. I'd rather keep some funds and if something breaks to the cost of £1000 or whatever, i'll take it on the chin rather than pay thousands of pounds over a number of years just in case. I would like to think that the car won't break to the cost of £1000 every year, but its a numbers game and there's 2 ways to play it. If I was keeping a car for a very long time, there is a worry though with things like PDK that have yet to be around for very long. Maybe i'd skip warranty on the car through a few years and consider a warranty in years 8 to 10 (again, a numbers game with no exact science). But I think the cost of some components is going to make modern cars become highly undesirable in their old age. E.g. with the cost of a PDK transmission, will some people just not consider taking on a PDK beyond its warrantable age of 10 years? Personally, I wouldn't. One (of many) reasons I chose manual on my Spyder was because I had potential plans to keep it a very long time, long enough that the cost of a PDK transmission replacement may cost more than the value of the car and I could have the car beyond a warrantable age. Will new cars become throw away items? With such a long list of expensive complex components on the new cars, will people touch them at 10 years old? PTV, PDCC, PCCB, PASM, PDK, Pxxx. When they all pack in through wear and tear on a car worth £20K that'd be frightening! lol[] Not to put a downer on PDK - it has proven reliable at 5 years old with very few issues on forums and it's a non-issue if not keeping the car long (some would say it's a non-issue if indeed keeping the car long - each to their own). Would like to know how much abuse those transmissions can take over 10 years, 100,000 miles and as many launch control starts as you want. A manual can be repaired or replaced quite easily.
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OPC normally takes it off as soon as a deposit is made. My Cayman R was off the opc list even before that ! So it does look like none for sale It's times like this I think about selling mine, bad weather and cold etc, but come Spring it would be a mistake. The thing with warranty also is, the seller will always want a 111 check done these days, and if you part ex the car the warranty is voided. I do have a diag cable so can show over revs etc if selling best thing to do is do a 111 check ie go halfs with the buyer (shows then if serious, I offer a refund if the car has big issues) and then buy the warranty for the buyer or give them 1k. this way it's just the same as buying from a OPC so you can charge OPC prices esp if OPC don't have any cars It would take a £42k bid on my car for me to sell it, any less and it does not interest me as there is nothing else I want under 120k. As I said I have been offered £38k last week, but I have bought a few goodies for the car ready for spring I 'll have a full OPC service this time round as my OPC will do a 111 check at the same time, and if they find any faults they can be fixed under the warranty. but for me no warranty renew as it will be having non oem parts fitted over winter.
It's times like this I think about selling mine, bad weather and cold etc, but come Spring it would be a mistake. The thing with warranty also is, the seller will always want a 111 check done these days, and if you part ex the car the warranty is voided. I do have a diag cable so can show over revs etc if selling best thing to do is do a 111 check ie go halfs with the buyer (shows then if serious, I offer a refund if the car has big issues) and then buy the warranty for the buyer or give them 1k. this way it's just the same as buying from a OPC so you can charge OPC prices esp if OPC don't have any cars It would take a £42k bid on my car for me to sell it, any less and it does not interest me as there is nothing else I want under 120k. As I said I have been offered £38k last week, but I have bought a few goodies for the car ready for spring I 'll have a full OPC service this time round as my OPC will do a 111 check at the same time, and if they find any faults they can be fixed under the warranty. but for me no warranty renew as it will be having non oem parts fitted over winter.
If there are none for sale today and I am in the market for a Spyder if the right car came along I wouldn't care if there was 6" of snow falling ..... It's only weather related for the impulse buyers who want a car there and then when the sun is shining IMO a serious buyer is ready and willing 24/7 x 365 days Now if someone is seriously looking they can contact me as I know of one of two Spyders that will be sold in the coming weeks Either a 5k mile manual or a 1k mile PDKboth garage queens [ORIGINAL: MrDemon So it does look like none for sale
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Both when I had my 911 and bought the Spyder and when I nearly chopped it in for a new 997.2 Carrera when silly discounts were available (glad I didn't) my OPC were extraordinarily helpful. They suggested if I wanted to try and sell privately I could use their full facilities - meet buyers there due to extensive CCTV security, let them put the car on their ramps, let the buyer chat to the technicians who knew my car etc. I always thought that was quite good of them. I appreciate they were looking at a way of building a deal but it was appreciated nonetheless.
I agree. Will be watching to see how one of those garage queens is received by the market [ORIGINAL: daro911 If there are none for sale today and I am in the market for a Spyder if the right car came along I wouldn't care if there was 6" of snow falling ..... It's only weather related for the impulse buyers who want a car there and then when the sun is shining IMO a serious buyer is ready and willing 24/7 x 365 days Now if someone is seriously looking they can contact me as I know of one of two Spyders that will be sold in the coming weeks Either a 5k mile manual or a 1k mile PDKboth garage queens [
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