I'm in a very similar position to you - had the Spyder I bought been a manual that would have been fine, but the best value car on the market which met my preferences happened to be a PDK so I went for it. I completely agree that it does "bring a different dimension to the fun factor" - not necessarily better, just different - but I still get huge pleasure from driving my Spyder and find the PDK great when pushing on through the twisties, particularly in sport mode. I have another car to use when the Spyder is hibernating which is a manual and the Spyder is the first semi-auto I've owned.ORIGINAL: daro911 Hi flat6 ... You have hit the nail square on the head and the one lesson I have learnt from my switch to the dark side is that when used in the correct fashion for ones personal driving style then flappy paddles are not only quicker & smoother shifting in either direction but most importantly bring a different dimension to the fun factor which is the most crucial requirement of any sports car owners needs One rarely hears a squeak from the 3 Top Gear comics these days about flappy paddles so even they seem to have been finally converted It will be interesting to see how many 991 Turbo & GT3 owners will be unhappy with the demise of the 3 pedal system[] Bottom line had my new 1000 mile Spyder been a stick shift I would have been more than happy to have remained old school for a while longer Fortunately my daily driver is a stick so I can keep my brain trained in that area still[
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It's funny what a big difference the white hoops and seat backs make. (No offence!) but that's the second picture you've posted where it almost looks like a 4 seater with no legroom for the second row if you know what I mean! Maybe it's just me but the black loses the effect a bit more easily, especially with skinny seats? Either way, it's a clean looking car, up to your usual standards!
Big E
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I was originally looking for a manual car having had a couple of dual clutch M BMW'sand getting a bit bored with paddle shift but a PDK Spyder came up and I took it. I know what you mean about the "freewheel" effect when off the power and cornering, it's something that occurs with the PDK but didn't with BMW's DCT system. It is a bit off putting mid corner. Both the systems are very efficient at what they do but are very different in the way they do it. The PDK is very smooth on the changes and probably is more impressive in auto mode (when sport/sport plus engaged) but the BMW system was much better in manual when it slammed through the changes, more race car like (which was fun on greasy surfaces!). The PDK vs manual debate will go on while manual cars are still an option but PDK is quicker in a straight line drag. A friend of mine has a manual Evora S and we compare the cars. They are pretty much equal in acceleration in gear but if I'm following him closely as he changes gear I have to lift as I gain a good 3 or 4 meters every gear change. He does complain the gearchange in the Evora has a long throw but he is a very competent driver and isn't hanging around. As to which is quickest around the track, I think it's probably down to what you're more comfortable with.
Hi Rob. Impressive car . Looks great. Whats happened to your other Spyder? Tracy.
kitchens
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I does look like a 2+2 in that picture.... I think it looks stunning with colour coded backs and hoops . Enjoy it .. I would have preferred PDK as i have always been an auto man on my last 4 Porsche's but i will live with the stick shift as the car is just a joy to drive and own .If a PDK came along in the correct colour RED []i could be tempted to sell . Unlike you Daro i would leave in the Auto mode all the time .test drove a similar style box and after playing around for ten minutes just switched in back into auto mode. You are correct about carrying more speed into the corners i found this as well ,whereas in the manual you read the road ahead and select a different gear , the auto does it for you and will never red line it as could easily happen in the stick change . Looks like we may get a sunny day on Tuesday so may get the chance to take it out for a wee run .
]i could be tempted to sell . Unlike you Daro i would leave in the Auto mode all the time .test drove a similar style box and after playing around for ten minutes just switched in back into auto mode. You are correct about carrying more speed into the corners i found this as well ,whereas in the manual you read the road ahead and select a different gear , the auto does it for you and will never red line it as could easily happen in the stick change . Looks like we may get a sunny day on Tuesday so may get the chance to take it out for a wee run .
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I think that's because at heart you are an auto driver first choice and I am auto driver NEVER[
] I have discovered one thing for sure you have to live with a pdk for a good few miles to learn to adjust to 21st century style of driving especially when using it as a manual only box otherwise you risk coming away like I did on many occasions impressed but not enough to ever own one
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ORIGINAL: flat6 http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=719756&mpage=191 Come onnnnnnnnnn[
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stirring the pot lol if some one posts a PDK car is easy 20mph faster then that's stiring the pot imo. I like facts, to quote a PDK is 20mph faster in any area is just plain bollocks and I will view that opinion. to then state it's faster because you don't like to rev a manual, or to drive a manual is harder, is a whole new ball game. If my attitude offends you, then I am sorry for that, but that's the way it is. My mates know who drives the fastest out the group, we are all grow ups and let each other try our cars on track. we all respect each others standards, and we all know our limits, there is always some one faster ;-) gokarting normally shows up who is fastest like wise these days I end up being the slowest when we switch to Motorbikes, or even push bikes, So I am very used to being last on those 2 accounts, but I don't let it worry me when my mates take the piss for me being mr slow of which they do. yes PDK will outdrag any manual,and yes PDK will give you about a second a lap advantage on track. It's just the 20mph speed differential I find amusing and voiced it and that quote imo was the pot stiring. but I am sure Robert is fine with my posts, so I then have to ask why did you go and post about my attitude alone and make a big point about it, ?
Sounds like we're all pretty much in agreement then. A PDK is only a couple tenths faster than manual in a drag race from standstill to 62mph. Not many gear changes in that dart, plus to get a perfect start off the line in a manual might be quite brutal? So over a lap all those faster gear changes will gain a second a lap as you say. The 20mph speed differential I think you're too hung up on. If daro has a wooden leg (and leaves it at home when he drives) and can only manage 2 gear changes over 300 yards and in a PDK he can manage 4 gear changes, he may just end up 20mph faster at the end[
] I dare say i'd also reach higher speeds in a PDK before the next braking point because I lose time on every upshift as i'm no pro. That's not pot stirring - he never said he was Chris Harris. Driven with equal driving ability, yes the PDK would not have a 20mph higher speed over an acceleration stretch before the next braking point. It would be higher but not that much higher. Daro is right if that's what he gets. If Chris Harris said 20mph then it would be pot stirring.
kitchens
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We all know what to buy Mr D for his Xmas ....A BIG WOODEN SPOON ...[][] On a more serious note i hope when they do the changeover on the 17th they do not loose all our posts[] as happened in the Mallet Mallet posts . nearly 7000 posts wow what a record!! Who can do a back up just in case
][] On a more serious note i hope when they do the changeover on the 17th they do not loose all our posts[] as happened in the Mallet Mallet posts . nearly 7000 posts wow what a record!! Who can do a back up just in caseI know, but I can't be bothered talking about my car when I know full well that he will be along a few minutes later to regurgitate the same old thing about manual, buckets, wheels, PSE, blah blah blah.ORIGINAL: flat6 It is what it is homerdog[
See above; you're like a stuck record - let's face it, we all know that you think no other Spyder matches up to yours. I actually think your Spyder is a great spec, but if I didn't I wouldn't spend all my time criticising it. I hope you can have a think about what I (and plenty of others) feel, because being nice is far more satisfying! That's going to be my last comment on the matter, because I don't want to further derail the interesting conversation that's taking place regarding the merits of PDK. [
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That might be something Mr D could comment on as I believe his business is I.T. if I am incorrect apologise in advance [ORIGINAL: kitchens On a more serious note i hope when they do the changeover on the 17th they do not loose all our posts[
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