Thanks RobS, RobK, yeah it is the dream car for me[
]. It's the one I want. A run down to Jasmine sounds like a plan[
]. That'll also be R5's club night so will check what they've got on and then decide[
] Part of the reason for choosing this particular car is that if I did have a change of heart, it's a nice example to move on. I've seen 60K+ mile examples for more that what i'm paying, like the one at PC Wilmslow. The OPC prices are a bit all over the place! It was missing cruise and short shift but i'm getting those added. I hear you MrD and you have some valid points evaluating from that angle. I have done my homework though and what i'm looking for the gen 1 turbo fits the bill. I've not even bothered to drive one locally as i'd still buy one anyway. There are advantages to Tiptronic on the turbo. Also, I believe that first gear is very short and you reach the red line before you know it, so the manual will keep me on my toes for sure! I read that Tiptronic sets off in second gear until you teach it / communicate with it that you want to get off promptly. But, I just fancied manual for this one[
] I do actually want to try the old school Porsche, well, not too old school, so it fits the bill there. I could spout about how it's the pinnacle of the Mezger engined turbo that was first mated to AWD in a 911 in the 993 and developed through the 996 until its final iteration in the 997.1. Someone will write a story in the future about why this model has some cachet for that reason. Or maybe not![
] Or I could spout about it having the Mezger engine that has 20+ years of racing development and heritage and is now too expensive for mass production and so was replaced by the cheaper DFI engine, blah blah blah. Someone might write a story about that too on the gen 1 turbo's headstone[
]. But putting all the sentimental stuff to one side, I just want one and I don't mind all those hundreds of parts in that old engine thrumming away with no effort made to sound nice. I'd go for the later model with the Sound Symposer if i wanted that [
] http://www.caranddriver.com/features/faking-it-engine-sound-enhancement-explained-tech-dept So I haven't really chosen it against the backdrop of the newer models nor solely on budget (as a Nissan GTR will go faster for the money). I've chosen it as an older car. (I like the 964 turbo too but can't afford one! But I wouldn't measure that one against the latest and greatest either.) The gen 2 car I don't know why but has not quite grabbed my interest. It has all the electronic systems that start with Pxx, such as PTV, that make it the superior car to drive, but for my 911 experience I don't fancy all that (I've actually promised my son in front of witnesses that he will get to drive this one - yes, i've got a strong will to keep this one a long time and don't fancy all the Pxx systems to look after over the long term. Just getting tired of sinked loads of dosh into buying cars, but let's see if I can actually kick the habit![8D]). Looking at futures, I think the 997.2 PDK DFI turbo, being the first iteration of that type, may descend into obscurity; a stepping onto more and more improved versions of that blueprint in the 991 turbo and beyond. I think turbos take a long long time to mature into a classic because they are more about succeeding tech with more tech so people just want to keep going for the latest and greatest until years and years later an old model may become sought after. But all that aside, I just didn't feel for one. The interior will be almost identical to my old Cayman, so there'll be no surprises for me there. Might miss the bluetooth phone connection at most. Thought about stretching to a late 2008 / 2009 car as they have PCM3 which looks nicer, but that would be a large expenditure for bluetooth integration! The rest of the cabin is pretty much the same gen 1 to gen 2 in 997 and 987. Have already thought about Sport Classic wheels for the future but we'll see...[8|] Have never had any desire for a cabrio before the Boxster Spyder and have no desire for another unless I was buying another Boxster Spyder. That was just a special car and worth deviating from my coupe preference for. A 911 without a roof is an even bigger no no for me personally. Phil, you've just made me want one even more![
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