You can stay well away!!! Mind you, could be quite good [ORIGINAL: jdpef356 Rob I could if you so wish negotiate a 'Double Snip' jobby for you and Bully, perhaps as much as 30% off![][
]Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
- Thread starter daro911
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]If someone owns a Spyder, and reads a review on a Spyder, then they are reading a review about the car they own. Like-for-like, no matter what options anyone has the Spyder still retains a weight advantage over another Boxster. And that weight has been removed from the right areas making it difficult to replicate. The bodywork is unique. The suspension bespoke to the car. Options are part of Porsches. Differences in spec suit individual needs. When I was buying a few months back the naked spec cars as you call them were cheaper than the obese ones, and were taking longer to sell. Not saying the purist and most lightweight cars are any less desirable at all, to some they are the absolute perfect way to have them, I'm just pointing out how wrong your statement is. Someone adds aircon and satnav to a GT3, or opts for sports seats - it doesn't become a 'different' car?! Took mine to Beaulieu today. Roof off part the way there (hard to believe that this actually happened), used the satnav, sports seats meant the passenger could see out. On the way back the roof was on and the aircon made the cabin lovely and cool on a very warm day. And I listened to the radio while stuck in a traffic jam and the rest of the time being encouraged to drive it with plenty of revs so I could hear the PSE. All these things added to my enjoyment of the car. Not for one moment did I think it felt lardy, slow or devoid of sharpness?
Find a gt3 with no AC and sports seats though and it's a dog to sell and will fetch less money by over 5k. As I said buy what type of car you like and enjoy them. Don't expect the car with sports seats a carrera wheels with PDK to fetch the same money in the future. People go on about the wheels quite a lot, why not take it to the next level with other options. My opinion is NOT " wrong" it's my opinion that's all. Spyders not as bad as the GTS as the Spyder has the sports sus, but many would have opted for PASM if it were available. x73 seems to make the GTS but no many cars will have it. I guess people embrace the concept of the car some don't.
ted walker
New member
Also took mine to Beaulieu . Roof down both ways. It got chosen as one of the seven "people choice" cars from the 450 or so cars attending. Its strange how many Porsche owners have never seen one in the flesh !!!!!
Any photos of the event ...I did not go, usually venture down to Gaydon with the Tipec guys from Scotland but not this year .We had 3 cars last year in the judging area and one of the guys took a first with his . If I had gone we would have had 3 Spyders on show, certainly got the weather .
No Spyders on show here yesterday but some serious collectors cars were .... Spyders should be good to show in 2040[] It's an annual show in a North London High Street Classic & Supercar Pageant Most pictures taken an hour before show officially started and many more cars arrived after this as well as some arriving during my quick mobile camera moments []By hour 2 after opening it was mobbed
] It's an annual show in a North London High Street Classic & Supercar Pageant Most pictures taken an hour before show officially started and many more cars arrived after this as well as some arriving during my quick mobile camera moments []By hour 2 after opening it was mobbed
Don't think the Spyder PDK has the "gliding mode" that my 981 Cayman has where it can coast along at idle, picking up when you touch the throttle? There was a mapping issue for both Spyder and Cayman R linked to Euro drive-by noise requirements - if you try to suddenly accelerate hard from, say, 30mph in 3rd gear there was a "flat spot" type symptom - there used to be a video on youtube of someone demonstrating this. I think a software update fixed it? [link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSOm1x9a_Is[/link]
You are wasting your bandwidth. You certainly cannot buy into the ethos of the Spyder if you have any "usability" options at all. It is all about the weight - so you cannot have a radio, AC, heated seats or PDK. Regardless of the fact that 99% of drivers won't notice the difference of a few KGs, nor will most Spyders be taken on track..... It's all about protecting future values you see - not about whether you have a different need/requirement/use/preference (or, frankly, don't care a jot about "future classic" values).
Given that there was no difference between the model years, I doubt it makes a jot of difference. There aren't many cars for sale at the mo so they're chancing their arm with a strong asking price. 2011 model year cars have also been selling well recently.....ORIGINAL: spyderwhitenotice this is an early 2012 model year hence may be why they are asking that sort of money for a high miler.ORIGINAL: daro911 Porsche Number 4 at an OPC today and its a high miler at a record high price to match the miles! This should be interesting[
spyderwhite
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that may be so but a 2012 my is the last batch to be built and to the untrained eye there are some cars out there that were registered new in 2011 and also later than some of the last built 2012my cars that could have been built some 15 months earlier.also dont forget with new model years comes software updates and any other minor improvements although i have yet to find one.but the fact remains its 2012my and not a 2011my and i for one would always look at the vin when buying any secondhand porsche to make sure its not been sitting for 12-18months and costing the same as the newer car and in some cases more than the newer car (all mileage/condition and options being equal).ORIGINAL: billy1Given that there was no difference between the model years, I doubt it makes a jot of difference. There aren't many cars for sale at the mo so they're chancing their arm with a strong asking price. 2011 model year cars have also been selling well recently.....ORIGINAL: spyderwhitenotice this is an early 2012 model year hence may be why they are asking that sort of money for a high miler.ORIGINAL: daro911 Porsche Number 4 at an OPC today and its a high miler at a record high price to match the miles! This should be interesting[
And if all other things are equal I would agree that the later car is the better simply because it is younger. But for Spyders it makes no discernible difference at all. I know you would like to think it does because you have a MY2012 car but to the 99% of people who are "untrained" which make up the buyers of these cars it's completely irrelevant because it makes no difference. I doubt anyone knows or particularly cares provided that the car is the right spec for them, within their mileage parameters and priced correctly. If there was any discernible difference between the model years then you might have a point. But I see very little difference in pricing between 2010 registered cars and 2011 registered cars for example. I don't think there is a premium for the later ones - the difference in price appears to be much more to do with the mileage than the age - hardly surprising given that the difference between the oldest and youngest cars is only 18 months. There simply aren't many Spyders out there to start with. It's rarely the case that all mileage/conditions/options are equal - and even if they were, whether the car sold would probably depend more on location that MY!
I can certainly feel the difference of the lightweight plastic interior of my car compared to the "fat" leather option that the thick non-purists want in their cars. Launch spec interior on mine you know, guaranteed future classic. I reckon it's as much as 0.00000001s off the 0-60 (which in my car is quicker than the dinosaur manual cars anyway as I have PDK which everyone knows is better). If you don't agree then you're wrong.
In that case my Spyder being built beginning of April 2011 and registered 27th April 2011 must be one of the last MY2011 to leave the factory and make it to UK before MY12 kicked off just a few weeks later[&o] With a production run from start to finish of under 18 months and other than the standard steering wheel changing from grey plastic to black I can't spot any other differences between a 2011/2011.5 and 2012 MY
spyderwhite
Member
so your car is newer than some cars registered sept 2011 although registered april 2011.and by what you say the vin last 3 numbers on your car start with a 9 then the next number is either an 8 or a 9 my whole point is because a car regd 9/11 is percieved newer and is a 61 plate and not a 11 plate dealers and private sales may want to charge more (all things being equal) and a buyer may chase the 61 plate because of the plate/reg difference when in fact it is worth no more if not less than your car because it is actually older.this is not just the case with spyders but all porsche models since 2008/9 as dealers stock pile cars whereas pre credit crunch 99% of new porsche cars were built to order. my car was built late june 2011 so 2 months newer than your car so the value should be no greater (if cars are alike)yet going by the reg date its 8 months newer so a dealer would charge more and some potential buyers may think it is 8 months newer which is not the case.
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