Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

[MrDemon]

ORIGINAL: tyinsky So you have messed with the camber, changed the toe, added some aftermarket spacers? No wonder it handles differently. Not saying your car handles badly for all your personal tinkering, just different to how Porsche with their massive experience and knowledge set the Spyder up (for road use). Good for you Mr Demon. Back steps out on the standard car as set up by the factory. I like it that way. On Michelins.

The back does NOT step out from factory spec, I doubt you will hear any owner here saying the back steps out in the dry. Do he maths, mid engine 265 rear tyres with neg 1.8 camber vs 235tyres and neg 0.5 front camber, with a soft rear ARB . The rear set up for so much grip and for the car to understeer once the limits of grip have been breached. Porsche set the car up for even more understeer and if you drive more than 20mph the car will reck it's outside front tyres. They have to set the cars up safe. Just seen a OPC car for sale and the outside of the front tyres were all cracked and recked. Again changing front camber gives more front end corner grip , saving your tyres and also make the car understeer less. If your cars over steering now in the dry your rear toe is prob out from what it should be. Front spacers help turn in and again make the car more tail happy, fitting rear spacers for looks like many do makes the car push. All my adjustments are to make the front more planted, so it can go faster and not wash out or kill tyres. I have done nothing to increase rear end grip at all, the car out the box is quite slow to drive. Ofcourse if you like the way your car is now , that's great means you can keep the speeds down and get the rear sliding about. But it's not as Porsche intended with their massive experience and knowledge Porsche with the R which came later tinkered with the R more to be more driver focused, it has stiffer springs and a stiffer rear ARB to allow the driver to bring the rear into play and a tad more front neg camber. Porsche state even today with the GTS models the Cayman is the better drivers car speeding a extra month after the Boxster with the handling team. As we all know more girls drive Boxsters . new page new "you have been spotted in France pic)

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: clubsport This morning I spoke with the new owner of the "higher" mileage black, turbo wheeled, pdk Spyder which sold recently. He is a friend of the guy who bought VroomM 's silver Spyder...he was so impressed with that car he had to have one! A few track days and another trip to the ring are planned, mileage is not so much an issue as he will drive and enjoy using the car...imagine that?! []

It's great to have you on board with your inside track to the Spyder buyers that we don't see[] Can't we tempt you into one yourself[] I suppose you don't need to own one with so many at your disposal[] Cheers

 

[daro911]

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[flat6]

That's the best Spyder pic ever, but then I am biased[8D] It was a nice buying experience too as the staff know you are a true Porsche nut when you buy a car like that at a time when not many people had even recognised how special the car was as a driver's car. We chatted for ages about the driver's Porsches and the manager had owned a few of the best driver's Porsches and rated the Spyder highly. The familiarity was rewarded by inviting me to sit in, start up and rev up a GT3 RS 4.0 as they knew I would appreciate how special that car was too, and it was not in the showroom for general access. That engine felt mighty just from the way it revved. OK, so i'm not the first or last to get close to an R.S 4.0, but it's not every day you walk into an OPC to buy a Boxster and get treated like a 911 buyer. Can sometimes be made to feel a bit 2nd rate (not intentionally) when spending less than £40K at an OPC.

 

[MrDemon]

£400k might get you in a RS4.0 now... as most have 300 or 400 miles on them is it true Porsche nuts buying them....... only a few get driven, it's quite sad.

 

[MJB]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon As we all know more girls drive Boxsters .

In response to those well-known 'hairdresser' remarks, four of us with Boxsters (including two Spyders) who go about together are known as the Barbershop Quartet.

 

[rob.kellock]

I'm not sure that's helping at all [][][]

 

[MrDemon]

lol just a basic fact that you see girls in Boxsters and guys in 911's. I hope the females will move in to Macans now ;-)

 

[Tracy_Wilkins]

Sorry to burst your bubble but the Boxster database shows that only 30% are lady owners [][] Btw: i had a Macan as a courtesy car last week and would i swop,,,,,,,,, no way:'(][] Cheers Tracy

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon £400k might get you in a RS4.0 now... as most have 300 or 400 miles on them is it true Porsche nuts buying them....... only a few get driven, it's quite sad.

True. I'm not saying that Porsche nuts are buying the 4.0. But Porsche nuts who walk into an OPC to buy a GT3, RS, Spyder or R are quite likely to appreciate the 4.0 even if they're not in a position to buy one.

 

[mpeppler]

Well - I'm going to Castle Combe tomorrow in mine... (OK, so left hand drive, and not registered in the UK, but still) A car is for driving (and a GT3 RS 4.0 for driving fast - i.e. on a track!) Michael

 

[MrDemon]

ORIGINAL: Tracy Wilkins Sorry to burst your bubble but the Boxster database shows that only 30% are lady owners [][] Btw: i had a Macan as a courtesy car last week and would i swop,,,,,,,,, no way:'(][] Cheers Tracy

and girls go on car forums and join car clubs lol that market is <5%

 

[rob.kellock]

ORIGINAL: mpeppler Well - I'm going to Castle Combe tomorrow in mine... (OK, so left hand drive, and not registered in the UK, but still) A car is for driving (and a GT3 RS 4.0 for driving fast - i.e. on a track!) Michael

If I had a 4.0RS I really wouldn't mind if it was LHD and not registered in the UK! Fair play taking it to Castle Combe, I hope you have a fabulous day there.

 

[geoff lane]

Agreed If I owned one I also would drive it and it would have more than 400 miles on the clock after the first couple of days. Enjoy Castle Combe and watch out at Quarry !

 

[MrDemon]

I am not sure why people don't drive them having one with 15k on the car is still going to fetch more than double people paid for them. The RS market is now daft you have to be a Porsche VIP client now and then these people don't use them. Porsche Limit the sales too much now even the new 991 RS is too limited numbers. thumbs up to very one who drives these things.

 

[tyinsky]

ORIGINAL: MrDemon

ORIGINAL: tyinsky So you have messed with the camber, changed the toe, added some aftermarket spacers? No wonder it handles differently. Not saying your car handles badly for all your personal tinkering, just different to how Porsche with their massive experience and knowledge set the Spyder up (for road use). Good for you Mr Demon. Back steps out on the standard car as set up by the factory. I like it that way. On Michelins.

The back does NOT step out from factory spec, I doubt you will hear any owner here saying the back steps out in the dry. Do he maths, mid engine 265 rear tyres with neg 1.8 camber vs 235tyres and neg 0.5 front camber, with a soft rear ARB . The rear set up for so much grip and for the car to understeer once the limits of grip have been breached. Porsche set the car up for even more understeer and if you drive more than 20mph the car will reck it's outside front tyres. They have to set the cars up safe. Just seen a OPC car for sale and the outside of the front tyres were all cracked and recked. Again changing front camber gives more front end corner grip , saving your tyres and also make the car understeer less. If your cars over steering now in the dry your rear toe is prob out from what it should be. Front spacers help turn in and again make the car more tail happy, fitting rear spacers for looks like many do makes the car push. All my adjustments are to make the front more planted, so it can go faster and not wash out or kill tyres. I have done nothing to increase rear end grip at all, the car out the box is quite slow to drive. Ofcourse if you like the way your car is now , that's great means you can keep the speeds down and get the rear sliding about. But it's not as Porsche intended with their massive experience and knowledge Porsche with the R which came later tinkered with the R more to be more driver focused, it has stiffer springs and a stiffer rear ARB to allow the driver to bring the rear into play and a tad more front neg camber. Porsche state even today with the GTS models the Cayman is the better drivers car speeding a extra month after the Boxster with the handling team. As we all know more girls drive Boxsters . new page new "you have been spotted in France pic)

Nonsense. Not sure why your car doesn't oversteer - maybe it has something to do with you knowing better than the engineers at Porsche in how to set the car up for a specific personal use with all the non factory adjustments and modifications. That's not for me, not interested in shaving 10ths/100ths of a going round in circles time at the expense of loosing the involvement in driving it. These are standard set up cars: Review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKKO1txe-0s Review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0VcNPFq0O4 Review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im5BSKMd0Ss

 

[MrDemon]

all those vids showed me was 2 x damp tracks and under steer or lift off over steer, have to agree to disagree I am nit picking ofcourse, and as I stated I have not increased rear grip, just made the front work better for me, to save my tyres.

 

[Fire_2]

I agree the rear is very planted, but I like that makes me push harder, totally agree with Mr.D front needs more camber for fast road or a lot more camber for track! Outside of the front tyres take a big hit

 

[Steve Brown]

I guess I'll end up buying one of these models! Is anyone else?

ORIGINAL: philnotts99 Hello All.. Hope all is well. Flying visit.. But just to let anyone who is interested that the following model company will be bringing out a 1/18 scale model of the Boxster Spyder in White and the Speedster in Blue, towards the end of the year - http://www.gts-models.com/en/ Phil PS - Still loving the Spyder

 

[MrDemon]

I have the 1/43 minichamps one, it's very nice