Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
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MrDemon
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about 150 cars and big delays getting cars to customers. Will we even see a 981 SPyder in 2015 , I doubt it. GT4 and 991 RS have been put way back, less colours ie 3 more colours taken off the list and 8 week delay if you spec bucket seats ! I still don't think it brings much to the party for the 987.2 owner if anything. The GT4 got all the trick parts, the 981 Spder has electric steering, no PDK and still that manual roof with ZERO tricj parts bar a token 911 340 disk set up ! who would really swap a 987.2 Spyder for one and 20k ? the new one even weighs more !
I might. The engine and additional hp attract me, extra grunt is the only thing that I would want to improve on my 987. I would go for a base car plus PCCBs to keep it as light as possible and low..ish cost. Not sure what sacrifices I make in leaving my 987 behind, putting aside the argument on future values. It wouldn't be a daily drive, just weekends and trackdays. Can't believe Porsche will get the handling wrong. What am I missing?
MrDemon
PCGB Member
As you well know though on track they are not the greatest, as you cannot dial in any camber, the new one is the same. as you own the lightest one possible add a manafold for 360bhp and that will be faster than the new one ! you will be 10bhp down but 30 kg lighter and still have the best steering on the market bar a Elise. Shame my GT4 is not arriving till much later I would have done a vid drag race of my modded Spyder vs the GT4. I just don't see the appeal of this new car with none of the bits I personally want , The GT4 has made me buy new only 3 times in 50 cars but it's fully loaded with nice kit esp if one want to go on track. track toys need -2.5 neg front camber, and not a lot you can do about that bar drive slower or fit GT3 LCA or 3rd party parts like my Spyder has. driving an unsteering car which wrecks tyres after 4 laps is not my idea of a fun car !
Unlike many on here I have actually driven a Boxster GTS with sport chassis and can confirm in all areas it leaves our current Spyders by a country mile What makes you think Porsche will get the GTS GT4 so right and the Spyder so wrong [
] Wait for the tests and then decide in the meantime nobody outside the factory can tell just how wrong the 981 Spyder will handle compared with the GT4 & 987 Spyder And remember it has the light chassis option and no PASM weighing things down Boxster, the wide track, taut shock absorbers and a suspension that’s 20 mm lower than the Boxster, make every drive an exciting ride. Body roll and pitch are practically non-existent. Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) with mechanically locking rear differential improves traction and further increases cornering performance. The new Boxster Spyder can definitely be described as extreme. After all, not for a long time has a roadster stuck so radically to its roots: to every inch of road. And so too an especially unfiltered driving experience. This is aided, not insignificantly, by the lightweight sport chassis. The long wheelbase that’s characteristic of the The comparative form of road? Once again, the steering has been made much more direct – and is therefore setting a new standard amongst the Boxster models. For the driver this means an even more dynamic and responsive drive. Some good points and I'm with you on most. I haven't driven a GTS, maybe I should quickly, but why do you say it leaves our Spyders by a country mile? I can imagine it outshines the S but does it really feel a better drivers car than the 987? I have driven the 3.4s B&C and both left me feeling numb, I'm worried that having let the 987 go (I have private buyer chomping at the bit) I'm going to regret doing so as the 981 turns out not to be as an involving drive. The marketing propaganda suggests I won't be disappointed but…… Maybe waiting is the right option but I have a number one slot and if that's honoured (looking + as not many 918 owners are too fussed about the Spyder) I don't want to be bumped by delaying if the car's going to be top notch. All views welcome, I'm sure I'm not the only one with this dilemma (lucky that I am to have it!)ORIGINAL: daro911Unlike many on here I have actually driven a Boxster GTS with sport chassis and can confirm in all areas it leaves our current Spyders by a country mile What makes you think Porsche will get the GTS GT4 so right and the Spyder so wrong [
Darrell I say that because it has a much more modern chassis, 20" wheels, bigger brakes, and the new sport chassis was just so planted despite the slippery conditions the car would not budge an inch at the speeds I dared to go for with it The X.73 sport chassis on the GTS is a development of the Spyder chassis but seems to work even better maybe its the longer wheelbase too As far as its road manners go the instructor who was very much a Spyder fan said its less jiggly and more user friendly on a daily driver basis on our great roads (not[&o]) Jumping from the sport chassis GTS into the standard set up ie PASM version it just felt that much less glued to the track but don't misread what I am saying it was still an awesome car even with the PASM set up I like keeping things simple so had a GTS been my chosen path it would have been with the sport chassis for sure If you can find one give it a try I am sure you will be impressed too
It's a funny dilemma. Like many, I was looking forward to the announcement. I miss my Spyder but also enjoy the greater depth of abilities of my 981 Cayman S. Some of this feels a bit "emporer's new clothes". The 987 is way prettier than the new car. For anyone doing more than, say, 5k miles a year, I suspect a 981 GTS PDK is both more practical and quicker. Roof down in 9 seconds at 35mph? Yes please. The noise, power and torque of the 3.8 help the new car ace it in the desirability stakes but, unlike the original, you can't help but wonder about subsequent 981 Spyder PDK and 981.2 Spyder... There is also a real ambivalence to its release unlike the hundreds of Internet pages devoted to the GTS let alone the GT4...Which (perversely) makes it even more appealing to me as an early adopter of the old car. I think I want one.
I think you deserve and should have one [
] Personally for me a limited production Porsche convertible is as much as I need and desire whilst still keeping the affordability and running costs real. Lower depreciation is just cream on a delicious cake that I can eat []
We must both not let go of a new one prematurely though
Andrew Killington
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Bitten the bullett and placed an order
philnotts99
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I pulled my LOI today for the Spyder. I want a weekend car/toy that does restrict me from using it every day. The new Spyder wouldn’t do this, its too user friendly now losing its charm and character. The 987 Spyder customers got the concept of the Spyder, got the idea and theory behind it...will the new one attract this kind of audience now? I dont think the new Spyder looks different enough to the GTS. However park the 987 Spyder next to a Boxster S and you can tell which one is special. [8D]ORIGINAL: daro911Snap[
MrDemon
PCGB Member
I have never read so much bollocks :-/ORIGINAL: daro911Unlike many on here I have actually driven a Boxster GTS with sport chassis and can confirm in all areas it leaves our current Spyders by a country mile What makes you think Porsche will get the GTS GT4 so right and the Spyder so wrong [
I can certainly see why you'd go for the new Spyder it looks very tasty Once the real road tests start coming through I am sure the verdicts will be very hot A very balanced view from Robert unlike some of the posturing drivel we read from some ;/)ORIGINAL: MrDemonI have never read so much bollocks :-/ORIGINAL: daro911Unlike many on here I have actually driven a Boxster GTS with sport chassis and can confirm in all areas it leaves our current Spyders by a country mile What makes you think Porsche will get the GTS GT4 so right and the Spyder so wrong [
Don't forget flat6 according to the some its electric tooORIGINAL: flat6 A lot of work has gone into the new roof. I guess some will prefer this more robust design, based on the 997 Speedster's and some might miss being able to remove the rear section on the original design. Horses for courses.
OK talking from personal experience and not www waffle on 2 occasions at PEC back in 2010 I sat with 10 hardcore Boxster owners like myself and not one of them would buy a Spyder for a variety of reasons but the most common dislike was the suncap & scarf concept[] and for that reason alone I decided to stand back for the first time ever and watch the market place as I had been previously burned when buying a brand new 89 Speedster which also had a flimsy roof which didn't go down well back in the day Bottom line by holding back I managed to experience great savings on my 1st manual Spyder and equally greater gains on my current concours winning PDK example. Having experienced both cars and achieved equal driving pleasures from both set ups despite personally being very anti automatic gearboxes all my motoring life. Fortunately a PDK can be driven 100% manually and deliver different thrills and spills from paddle shifting as opposed to a stick & clutch[] As I have said many times before if the next Spyder was manual only it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me as I drive a manual every day still and always will by choice 
Rocket Man
New member
i still think the 987/2 Spyder looks at is best with the top on, windows down and rear section removed, a pure piece of art. that hood style is so distintive i think it is a shame to hide it away, shame you can not do that with the new one. one thing i do find very appealing about the 981 Spyder is having the ability to spec a new one just as i want one. i missed the boat with the 987/2 as i was into other cars at the time it came put and could not afford a new one either at that time. i quite like the idea of a silver 981 Spyder with that new leather/alcantara classic pack what specs have people chosen???
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