Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
- Thread starter daro911
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I'm sort of hoping they might just appreciate as well as their older relative has [
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philnotts99
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I would go higher, you can come down but you can’t go up! So OPC rang me today. They are receiving 2 Spyders this year and i can have one. " Are you sure you want to pull your LOI".... He was given big hints that it would be foolish to give up the place as it could result in free motoring. However i would need the car to make 10k on re-sale and 1. I'm not sure its right buying a car to make money/break even on and 2. I dont think re-sale would achieve that anyway! or 3. I may love the new Spyder and simply sell the old one !!
Rocket Man
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I would put it up for £42500 then look to take about £40500
Then its dearer than similar mileage car from an OPC with 2 years warranty![&o] Transmission: Manual Exterior Colour: Arctic Silver Metallic Vehicle Location: Porsche Centre East London Vehicle Ident Number: WP0ZZZ98ZBS740111 Interior Finish: Cocoa leather interior with sport seats Mileage: 31,219 m Registration Year: 2010 (10) Price: £ 38,950 Equipment Roll-over bar in exterior colour Silver-Grey seat belts Sound Package Plus including CD storage Sports seats Steering column casing leather Sun visors leather Telephone module for PCM Universal audio interface Wheel centre set 19-inch Boxster Spyder Wheel 6-speed manual transmission Cruise control Fully automatic climate control Heated seats ParkAssist (rear) Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module Porsche crest embossed on head restraints RV10WJL
Rocket Man
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That is a point but it is that cocoa interior that will put buyers off that car. i would not even think of that colour but that is just me. i can not see even a car with just over 30K on the clock not fetching over £40K. that is a fair price for a car with that milage.
I think you're right Mr Vice Chairman. The window may be now to make the most of the cult status of the 987 Spy. The latest advertised 987 lends to what you're saying with the seller stating he's chopping it in for the new model. When the 987 is say 15 to 20yrs old perhaps the alternative tech will become irrelevant as it'll be a classic, independently desirable. Following on from what you're saying, if more Spyders are put for sale (OK not the cocoa brown interior cars (though I don't mind it myself)) to buy the newer car, how does that impact the perceived desirability of the original at this stage in its life . We don't really have a picture yet as the owners who are not feeling the desire to change will naturally talk up the original (and rightly so, it's a hoot to drive and to look at) whilst the buyers of the new car don't necessarily talk down the original and are just smitten with their new desire. What will shape the outcome is who buys the older car. As Rob says, will someone pay £55k for the original before being tempted by the new car. Everyone is different but I would be after the new car. I've driven a few 981’s and they're simply sublime, so in sport chassis / Spyder guise I can see me having a lot of fun behind the wheel of that. As I drove mine a lot, the new manually folding roof would have made those trips where you have to park somewhere a bit dubious but you have the top down, just that bit more accessible. That said, if I wanted to stick with the original I wouldn't feel I was having less pleasure of ownership, not at all.
Good points well argued flat6 and I would add had the 981 Spy had the GTS 3.4l engine and a PDK option Porsche could probably have easily achieved the secret desired sales figures W/wide but that concept wouldn't have had the wow factor of the last of the normally aspirated 3.8L all time great Porsche engines in its midst [
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True. But I would still like to know why they chose to go for manual only. I know people will say it's for heritage but Porsche are a business and have always pushed new technologies where there is a business benefit to do so and not done so where there was not. E.g. the Mezger engine did not have a PDK transmission developed I think because it was being phsaed out and it would not have affected GT3 sales. As soon as the Mezger went, the GT3 went PDK. The marketing switched and the customer base had to catch up or go find a manual from another marque. For the numbers of GT4 and Spyder they are selling, was there something about fitting the PDK that didn't make it worthwhile? Or will we see 3.8 PDK 981's (or 370-380hp from the turbo replacement) when the 991 CS has been given a power boost, to maintain the performance gap?ORIGINAL: daro911Good points well argued flat6 and I would add had the 981 Spy had the GTS 3.4l engine and a PDK option Porsche could probably have easily achieved the secret desired sales figures W/wide but that concept wouldn't have had the wow factor of the last of the normally aspirated 3.8L all time great Porsche engines in its midst [
Rocket Man
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i was told at my OPC that the Spyder and the GT4 are short run models because of the introduction of the turbo 4 engine for the 981/2 cars and therefore there will not be a lot made and not worth development. the 991 flat 6 will not be available as the 3.8 as it is now either as the 991 will get a new engine also
I've not seen this video before, so sorry if I missed a previous link, but take a look at 6 minutes in, and it shows the method for raising and lowering the roof in the new Spyder: [link]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihVjJGynHw[/link] Very interesting! There's still a bit of getting in and out of the car involved. The method of attaching the buttresses looks fiddly, the rear deck looks as though the hinges take some hammer, and the foldaway roof flexes a lot in the folding stage. Added to this, you can no longer run just with the suncap part on, or leave the whole roof thing at home to save weight []
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That's a massive improvement for all 987 Spydermen and equally massive step backwards for any regular 981 owner to not desire one [8D] Perfect solution for both camps IMO[ORIGINAL: Steve Brown [link]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihVjJGynHw[/link] Very interesting! There's still a bit of getting in and out of the car involved. The method of attaching the buttresses looks fiddly, the rear deck looks as though the hinges take some hammer, and the foldaway roof flexes a lot in the folding stage. Added to this, you can no longer run just with the suncap part on, or leave the whole roof thing at home to save weight [
]Agreed So do we think that the 3.8 with its already available PDK transmission would have needed more development to fit it than could be justified for such a short lived model. Or did they choose not to install it for business reasons, not nostalgic reasons. Or did they decide that true drivers cars have to be manual and all their PDK-only cars such as 991 GT3 and GT3 RS are not true driver's cars.
Clearly business reasons, they knew they would sell the small number they made many times over. Don't read too much into all of this true drivers, motorsport marketing, Porsche could make the cars closer to the race cars like they used too, but that would cost more and they can spin the models they make well enough on the lack of supply vs demand.
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