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Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
- Thread starter daro911
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This is a lot less faffing than the 2 piece design, can be done up or down in well under half the time, nothing to have to lift off the car and later lift out of the boot and finally car not restricted to 125 mph when in closed option. Obviously when we get to see some test reports I think it would be fair to assume the wind noise suffered in the 987 at motorway speeds will be a thing of the past too [8D] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihVjJGynHwORIGINAL: jayxx83 Electric tensioner looks utterly pointless. Should have kept the two piece design as you have to get out anyway!
I think you are correct so better keep the front boot clear of any unnecessary clutter []ORIGINAL: Steve Brown Looking at the video again, how do you think it will be possible to get to the rear boot area with the hood up? I can't see how this is possible without dis attaching the buttresses every time?
spyderwhite
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What a load of cr$p!what is the difference between the gt4 and the 981 SPYDER apart from the roof! The only real difference is the suspension/aero and for £3k you could give the spyder better suspension! So saying to 987 SPYDER owners not worth changing to a new one is also like saying why sell the CR for a gt4 Is the gt4 a real Motorsport car in the way gt3 is ?the answer is no it has no Motorsport engine thus it is no more a Motorsport car than a CR with sorted suspension and a bit of aero. IMHO because the spyder has the passive suspension it may be more sort after as a weekend TOY over the more track focused Gt4,plus it has the added bonus of top down motoring Would you have gone the spyder route if no gt4 I think you might but since you are getting a gt4 you are rubbishing the new spyder !ORIGINAL: MrDemon I still think the cars in no mans land. the roof, well you still have to get out and walk round both sides and open the boot to put it away. you cannot take the roof off you cannot run 1/2 a roof which I know a few do, and the rare times I put mine on I do the same. And it looks like no boot access if roof on ! when I have loan Boxsters there is some thing nice about putting the roof down while moving, or if the sun pops out at the next set of lights. So taking this in mind you prob will have to spec air con adding more weight, remember it weighs more than the old one and also more again if you leave the older roof at home. So imo it's not a daily (no PDK either), so then is it a toy ? sad to say , NO, it's not driver focus enough to be a toy, people say the 981 has grown up but who wants grown up in a toy ? It weighs more, the steering feel will be way worse, nothing can be done about that, the brakes are always over servo in the 981 and the inside is Audi like. It's just not focused enough for a toy either Is it a track car, well that's easy NO, the GT4 is that, the Spyder has no adjustments to allow better track use. I think some one would be mad to sell a 987.2 Spyder to get into one, it does not even look as nice at the rear ie the humps and lets face it we all buy into the humps and the 981's are not as nice as the 987.2's As a focused daily I think I would take a GTS with x73, Buckets and have a electric roof, as a fun toy I would keep the 987.2 Spyder and be £20k better off in my pocket ! Last that 3.8, again the car weighs more, and I for one have never thought to myself, do you know what , this Spyder needs 370BHp. (you can tune the 987.2 to that anyway and with shorter speeds in gear the 987.2 will prob be just as fast) And last that Manual remember the 981 with 20" wheels will do about 85mph in 2nd gear, so if you like changing gear you won't be needing to do that much either.
spyderwhite
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Hi Darrell like you I just missed out on aGT4 and have been offered a spyder which my large dealership is only getting 2 but 5 Gt4s but the more I think about it for someone who doesn't do track days the spyder will be the better car!as for future value I think the spyder will hold its own and may match the gt4 (see reasons in last post) Also the spyder is being built in less numbers the last n/a Boxster whereas the gt4 will be improved upon and may become a proper GT Motorsport car []ORIGINAL: DarrellWilson I have to admit I'd have a GT4 before a Spyder if I had the choice as it's from the GT stable which which gives it's some significant advantages. I don't expect the Spyder to command the same re-sale values of a GT4 (even with a similar start point) when the time comes to sell but given the production versus demand in the first couple of years it should make it cheap motoring - only 3 cars this year for my OPC and they had 33 LOIs. But unfortunately I was behind the curve on getting my interest registered for a GT4 but front of the queue for the Spyder and reality is I will do most of my 981 Spyder driving on road not track - it's one thing thrashing a £15k Caterham to it's limits and another one doing the same to a £65k Spyder - so the Spyder should be a pleasurable ownership experience. It's just difficult coming to terms with breaking my strong emotional attachment to the 987.........anyone want to give me £50k for it but promise to sell me it back if I don't like the 981?
but a GT3 does not have motorsport engine either now ! and I am NOT selling my R to buy a GT4, I am keeping it ! and a few others have ditched the GT4 and are modding the R. as for better sus for £3k, it would cost you >3k to get GT4 control arms all round and set up, then £5k for a medium set of JRZ shocks, total £8k easy, then you also have the 380mm brakes vs the 340mm ones and still no down force. And NO one is going to throw £8k on a new SPyder like wise very few even tinker with the 987.2 car ! how many cars run an exciting set up , mine and fire2, I don't think any one else does. you cannot pedal a Spyder round the track with -1 degree camber it will just kill the tyres and understeer like a boat after 2 laps. Come to the PGCB at Anglesey and I'll take you out in mine, I have done a few mods and have real camber since I took Rob out last year. I am not rubbishing it no more than I might ditch the GT4, for me the 981 SPyder needed to be more tech with electric R8 style roof and PDK . for a fun car in my eyes I would keep the 987.2 Spyder, it has the feel which I love. to answer would I have gone 981 Spyder route, I can hand on heart say no, it would have been a 997.2 GT3 or a R8 v10 Plus.ORIGINAL: spyderwhite PWhat a load of cr$p!what is the difference between the gt4 and the 981 SPYDER apart from the roof! The only real difference is the suspension/aero and for £3k you could give the spyder better suspension! So saying to 987 SPYDER owners not worth changing to a new one is also like saying why sell the CR for a gt4 Is the gt4 a real Motorsport car in the way gt3 is ?the answer is no it has no Motorsport engine thus it is no more a Motorsport car than a CR with sorted suspension and a bit of aero. IMHO because the spyder has the passive suspension it may be more sort after as a weekend TOY over the more track focused Gt4,plus it has the added bonus of top down motoring Would you have gone the spyder route if no gt4 I think you might but since you are getting a gt4 you are rubbishing the new spyder !ORIGINAL: MrDemon I still think the cars in no mans land. the roof, well you still have to get out and walk round both sides and open the boot to put it away. you cannot take the roof off you cannot run 1/2 a roof which I know a few do, and the rare times I put mine on I do the same. And it looks like no boot access if roof on ! when I have loan Boxsters there is some thing nice about putting the roof down while moving, or if the sun pops out at the next set of lights. So taking this in mind you prob will have to spec air con adding more weight, remember it weighs more than the old one and also more again if you leave the older roof at home. So imo it's not a daily (no PDK either), so then is it a toy ? sad to say , NO, it's not driver focus enough to be a toy, people say the 981 has grown up but who wants grown up in a toy ? It weighs more, the steering feel will be way worse, nothing can be done about that, the brakes are always over servo in the 981 and the inside is Audi like. It's just not focused enough for a toy either Is it a track car, well that's easy NO, the GT4 is that, the Spyder has no adjustments to allow better track use. I think some one would be mad to sell a 987.2 Spyder to get into one, it does not even look as nice at the rear ie the humps and lets face it we all buy into the humps and the 981's are not as nice as the 987.2's As a focused daily I think I would take a GTS with x73, Buckets and have a electric roof, as a fun toy I would keep the 987.2 Spyder and be £20k better off in my pocket ! Last that 3.8, again the car weighs more, and I for one have never thought to myself, do you know what , this Spyder needs 370BHp. (you can tune the 987.2 to that anyway and with shorter speeds in gear the 987.2 will prob be just as fast) And last that Manual remember the 981 with 20" wheels will do about 85mph in 2nd gear, so if you like changing gear you won't be needing to do that much either.
Crikey, don't tell me we have something in common!ORIGINAL: MrDemon my new Ford ST
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