Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
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Fresh Spyder to market place [
] from the used top selling Spyder dealer 911V
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Boxster Spyder PDK ( Paddle shift gear selection and Sports Chrono Package plus with Chronometer and launch control ). First registered 22/10/2010. Finished in Basalt Black Metallic with full Black leather to dashboard and doorcards. A two owner car supplied new by Porsche Centre Reading and one we've purchased directly from the previously owner of 4 years.
Full Porsche Main Agent service history (invoice supported). The car has been serviced twice, initially, 01/10/2012 at a mileage of 7542 with the 4 year major service (spark plugs) carried out 22/09/2014 at a mileage of 8683. Servicing has been carried out by Porsche Centre East London
Presented in exceptional condition throughout. Always garaged with dry use only.
Unmarked Sport Design alloys in charcoal / titanium, PCM 3.0 touch screen Satellite Navigation with Bluetooth telephone connectivity and USB / Ipod facility. Hard backed heated and Porsche logo embossed Sports seats, Sports Chrono Package Plus with Sport and Sport Plus,Launch Control. Sport design steering wheel with paddle shift gear selection, full leather, PSM (Porsche Stability Management), Red door pulls and red belts, Climate controlled Air conditioning, Passenger Airbag deactivation facility with Isofix child seat mounting point. Xenon headlights with headlamp wash, wind deflector, rear park assist, driver/passenger/side airbags, bodycoloured centre tunnel, remote central locking, electric windows, electric mirrors, ABS and power steering.
Supplied with all appropriate keys, manuals and invoices. We've known of this car indirectly now for some time. It comes from a great stable and as such has a watertight pedigree. Detailed images to follow.
9,090 recorded miles.£45995
] from the used top selling Spyder dealer 911V
Boxster Spyder PDK ( Paddle shift gear selection and Sports Chrono Package plus with Chronometer and launch control ). First registered 22/10/2010. Finished in Basalt Black Metallic with full Black leather to dashboard and doorcards. A two owner car supplied new by Porsche Centre Reading and one we've purchased directly from the previously owner of 4 years.Full Porsche Main Agent service history (invoice supported). The car has been serviced twice, initially, 01/10/2012 at a mileage of 7542 with the 4 year major service (spark plugs) carried out 22/09/2014 at a mileage of 8683. Servicing has been carried out by Porsche Centre East London
Presented in exceptional condition throughout. Always garaged with dry use only.
Unmarked Sport Design alloys in charcoal / titanium, PCM 3.0 touch screen Satellite Navigation with Bluetooth telephone connectivity and USB / Ipod facility. Hard backed heated and Porsche logo embossed Sports seats, Sports Chrono Package Plus with Sport and Sport Plus,Launch Control. Sport design steering wheel with paddle shift gear selection, full leather, PSM (Porsche Stability Management), Red door pulls and red belts, Climate controlled Air conditioning, Passenger Airbag deactivation facility with Isofix child seat mounting point. Xenon headlights with headlamp wash, wind deflector, rear park assist, driver/passenger/side airbags, bodycoloured centre tunnel, remote central locking, electric windows, electric mirrors, ABS and power steering.
Supplied with all appropriate keys, manuals and invoices. We've known of this car indirectly now for some time. It comes from a great stable and as such has a watertight pedigree. Detailed images to follow.
9,090 recorded miles.£45995
Test location: Oberau, Germany
About now there would probably have been a sound akin to a hurricane denuding a small campsite if I’d been in the old Boxster Spyder. I’m on the Autobahn and have breached 125mph, which, while not a phenomenal rate of knots, is nonetheless the maximum permissible speed of the old Spyder with its ‘shower cap’ roof in place.
This 2015 Spyder has no such issues, however, and although the new roof above my head still looks rakish and saves a useful 10kg, it can be used all the way up to the car’s top speed of 180mph. Traffic on the Autobahn won’t let me reach quite those heights today, but I push on to 166mph (the old Spyder’s top speed) just to ram the point home.
This time the Boxster Spyder was designed from the outset with a roof and, as a consequence, that roof is much more integrated. There is a button-operated motor to attach it securely to the header rail, but the rest of the stowage or erection is done manually. It’s relatively simple once you’ve got used to a couple of quirks (the trickiest part is finding the button beneath the canvas that releases each of the ‘fins’ attaching it to the rear deck) and by the end of my time with the Spyder I’ll be able to complete the whole process in around 30 seconds if I do my very best running-round-the-car-Le-Mans-pit-stop impression.
[blockquote]‘The Spyder changes direction with simply beautiful composure’[/blockquote]As for the rest of the car, well, on paper at least it has clearly usurped the already wonderful GTS at the top of the 981 Boxster tree. With the 3.8-litre flat-six from the 991 Carrera S (and the Cayman GT4) mounted amidships, the Spyder puts out a healthy 45bhp more than the Boxster GTS (but 10bhp less than the GT4). Torque is up on the GTS by 37lb ft too and the 0-62mph time has dropped by 0.5sec, to 4.5sec. In addition to the largely manually operated roof, some 918-inspired seats plus a lack of air con and radio as standard help to drop the kerb weight by 30kg to 1315kg.
For reasons that will be explained in a future article, I’m driving a large number of miles in a Spyder across a seasonally hot and sunny stretch of Europe, and as a result I’m rather pleased that this particular car was specced with air con and PCM infotainment. It’s a slightly tricky conundrum, however, because obviously the purist in me thinks that potential owners should spec their Spyders to be pared-back paragons, yet the realist in me admits that a Spyder is likely to be used much more if you add in a couple of little luxuries so that long motorway journeys to the mountains are much more pleasurable. I believe it’s what is known as a ‘first-world problem’.
The speedster-looking rear and the much more aggressive front end suggest that this is going to be a very different sort of Boxster to drive. However, initially there doesn’t feel like there is a stark leap in performance over a GTS. The culprit is the Boxster’s tall gearing, which masks the greater power if you’re only driving at a moderate six-tenths. Up the pace, though, and the extra urge really starts to make itself felt, with the flat-six getting into its considerable stride above about 5000rpm, where the peak torque plateau begins. The 20mm-lower Sports chassis that’s an option on the GTS is standard here, and although the low stance of the Spyder suggests an uncompromising ride, the suspension is actually surprisingly compliant over some extremely broken sections of road.
What is new to this Boxster is the steering, which is taken from the 991 Turbo (which has a quicker rack), and the lovely, smaller, 360mm-diameter steering wheel also seen in the new GT3 RS. As a result there is more weight in your hands and a greater economy of movement as you guide the car through corners. Although the steering doesn’t have quite the liveliness of the GT4’s (this is not a full ‘Motorsport’ car, remember, so it doesn’t have the 911 GT3 front end that the ultimate Cayman has), the Spyder nonetheless changes direction with increased agility and simply beautiful composure. The extra grunt also means it’s easier to unhitch the rear tyres, although the mechanical LSD could lock more aggressively, if we’re being picky.
With the roof and windows down, the buffeting is more than a zephyr but no stronger than a stiff breeze, and when you throw in the beautiful six-speed manual complete with stubbier lever, and a soundtrack that has more snap, crackle and pop than a Kellogg’s factory, the driver’s seat is a pretty wonderful place to be.
Rather than any single stellar trait, it is more a subtle coalition of small improvements that lifts the Spyder driving experience just above that of the GTS, but overall the Spyder is worthy of its place at the top of the 981 range. At £60,459 it seems like something of a bargain too.
Henry Catchpole (@HenryCatchpole)
[h3]Specification[/h3]Engine Flat-six, 3800cc CO2 230g/km Power 370bhp @ 6700rpm Torque 310lb ft @ 4750-6000rpm 0-62mph 4.5sec (claimed) Top speed 180mph (claimed) Basic price £60,459
About now there would probably have been a sound akin to a hurricane denuding a small campsite if I’d been in the old Boxster Spyder. I’m on the Autobahn and have breached 125mph, which, while not a phenomenal rate of knots, is nonetheless the maximum permissible speed of the old Spyder with its ‘shower cap’ roof in place.
This 2015 Spyder has no such issues, however, and although the new roof above my head still looks rakish and saves a useful 10kg, it can be used all the way up to the car’s top speed of 180mph. Traffic on the Autobahn won’t let me reach quite those heights today, but I push on to 166mph (the old Spyder’s top speed) just to ram the point home.
This time the Boxster Spyder was designed from the outset with a roof and, as a consequence, that roof is much more integrated. There is a button-operated motor to attach it securely to the header rail, but the rest of the stowage or erection is done manually. It’s relatively simple once you’ve got used to a couple of quirks (the trickiest part is finding the button beneath the canvas that releases each of the ‘fins’ attaching it to the rear deck) and by the end of my time with the Spyder I’ll be able to complete the whole process in around 30 seconds if I do my very best running-round-the-car-Le-Mans-pit-stop impression.
[blockquote]‘The Spyder changes direction with simply beautiful composure’[/blockquote]As for the rest of the car, well, on paper at least it has clearly usurped the already wonderful GTS at the top of the 981 Boxster tree. With the 3.8-litre flat-six from the 991 Carrera S (and the Cayman GT4) mounted amidships, the Spyder puts out a healthy 45bhp more than the Boxster GTS (but 10bhp less than the GT4). Torque is up on the GTS by 37lb ft too and the 0-62mph time has dropped by 0.5sec, to 4.5sec. In addition to the largely manually operated roof, some 918-inspired seats plus a lack of air con and radio as standard help to drop the kerb weight by 30kg to 1315kg.
For reasons that will be explained in a future article, I’m driving a large number of miles in a Spyder across a seasonally hot and sunny stretch of Europe, and as a result I’m rather pleased that this particular car was specced with air con and PCM infotainment. It’s a slightly tricky conundrum, however, because obviously the purist in me thinks that potential owners should spec their Spyders to be pared-back paragons, yet the realist in me admits that a Spyder is likely to be used much more if you add in a couple of little luxuries so that long motorway journeys to the mountains are much more pleasurable. I believe it’s what is known as a ‘first-world problem’.
The speedster-looking rear and the much more aggressive front end suggest that this is going to be a very different sort of Boxster to drive. However, initially there doesn’t feel like there is a stark leap in performance over a GTS. The culprit is the Boxster’s tall gearing, which masks the greater power if you’re only driving at a moderate six-tenths. Up the pace, though, and the extra urge really starts to make itself felt, with the flat-six getting into its considerable stride above about 5000rpm, where the peak torque plateau begins. The 20mm-lower Sports chassis that’s an option on the GTS is standard here, and although the low stance of the Spyder suggests an uncompromising ride, the suspension is actually surprisingly compliant over some extremely broken sections of road.
What is new to this Boxster is the steering, which is taken from the 991 Turbo (which has a quicker rack), and the lovely, smaller, 360mm-diameter steering wheel also seen in the new GT3 RS. As a result there is more weight in your hands and a greater economy of movement as you guide the car through corners. Although the steering doesn’t have quite the liveliness of the GT4’s (this is not a full ‘Motorsport’ car, remember, so it doesn’t have the 911 GT3 front end that the ultimate Cayman has), the Spyder nonetheless changes direction with increased agility and simply beautiful composure. The extra grunt also means it’s easier to unhitch the rear tyres, although the mechanical LSD could lock more aggressively, if we’re being picky.
With the roof and windows down, the buffeting is more than a zephyr but no stronger than a stiff breeze, and when you throw in the beautiful six-speed manual complete with stubbier lever, and a soundtrack that has more snap, crackle and pop than a Kellogg’s factory, the driver’s seat is a pretty wonderful place to be.
Rather than any single stellar trait, it is more a subtle coalition of small improvements that lifts the Spyder driving experience just above that of the GTS, but overall the Spyder is worthy of its place at the top of the 981 range. At £60,459 it seems like something of a bargain too.
Henry Catchpole (@HenryCatchpole)
[h3]Specification[/h3]Engine Flat-six, 3800cc CO2 230g/km Power 370bhp @ 6700rpm Torque 310lb ft @ 4750-6000rpm 0-62mph 4.5sec (claimed) Top speed 180mph (claimed) Basic price £60,459
ted walker
New member
Hope to go to to Althorp on Sunday in Spyder
It's good to find that these reviews are utterly as predicted. I could happily buy a Spyder without a test drive. X.73 is no doubt a brilliant road set-up. I know that as it's a derivative of the fine chassis tuning I enjoyed on the 987 Spyder for 2 years. The steering rack whether they decided to lift it from another model (Porsche components are so interchangeable) or enhance the current one on the 981 was going to give that extra responsiveness over the 981s that I have driven.
I think the GT4 was a bigger leap into the unknown for a 981 and i'd have to drive that one. No doubt just as utterly predicable Porsche would ensure that car leaves you feeling that a GT3 is worth the extra money, if you can afford one. They'd be fools not to. No doubt sharper that a Spyder, but also no doubt it's adjustable suspension will not be adjustable to the point of being a GT3 beater. Not knocking the GT4 at all. It's no doubt 'better' than the Spyder in every way it is intended to be 'better'. But then they're not in competition with each other. I'm sure we'll see youtube videos of GT4's driven by good drivers overtaking GT3's driven by novices on track days and claiming it's the better car. But meanwhile the Spyder will be bought just for personal pleasure. No matter who's behind you on your favorite B road, if they want to go faster you'll just let them pass even if your car is faster. You're having too much of a good time in a good car to worry about figures. I had that with my 987 Spyder. If I put my foot down there'd often be an M3 or similar come revving up behind me. I'd have no idea if I could take it on (and much is down to the driver plus there's not much between a lot of cars when driving responsibly on public roads). But I wouldn't care. I'd drop down to 30mph until they got bored and pass and then i'd go back to enjoying myself.
Would like to have another car like the Spyder in my stable in the future, for those days when only a Spyder will do. But i'll have to win the lottery as i'm not gonna swap the turbo out.
I think the GT4 was a bigger leap into the unknown for a 981 and i'd have to drive that one. No doubt just as utterly predicable Porsche would ensure that car leaves you feeling that a GT3 is worth the extra money, if you can afford one. They'd be fools not to. No doubt sharper that a Spyder, but also no doubt it's adjustable suspension will not be adjustable to the point of being a GT3 beater. Not knocking the GT4 at all. It's no doubt 'better' than the Spyder in every way it is intended to be 'better'. But then they're not in competition with each other. I'm sure we'll see youtube videos of GT4's driven by good drivers overtaking GT3's driven by novices on track days and claiming it's the better car. But meanwhile the Spyder will be bought just for personal pleasure. No matter who's behind you on your favorite B road, if they want to go faster you'll just let them pass even if your car is faster. You're having too much of a good time in a good car to worry about figures. I had that with my 987 Spyder. If I put my foot down there'd often be an M3 or similar come revving up behind me. I'd have no idea if I could take it on (and much is down to the driver plus there's not much between a lot of cars when driving responsibly on public roads). But I wouldn't care. I'd drop down to 30mph until they got bored and pass and then i'd go back to enjoying myself.
Would like to have another car like the Spyder in my stable in the future, for those days when only a Spyder will do. But i'll have to win the lottery as i'm not gonna swap the turbo out.
I have contacted several OPC around the area and one dealer as said that I need to get my deposit down if I stand any chance of
getting a new Spyder. They have 4 coming and 6 people with a deposit down, do you think Porsche will look at the total number
of deposits and full fill them all or is the sales man pissing up my leg and hoping I will buy something else ?
getting a new Spyder. They have 4 coming and 6 people with a deposit down, do you think Porsche will look at the total number
of deposits and full fill them all or is the sales man pissing up my leg and hoping I will buy something else ?
jdpef356 said:
We'll be there for both days. Hopefully it will be drier than the Sunday at Silverstone Classic, but we'll be there rain or shine (as the hotel is booked!). We don't have any region parking, so will be in the "general area", but it would be good to get the cars together for a photo opportunity.
daro911 said:
Wa-hey
I'll be at Althorp every day. I'm in charge of Regional and Register parking (i must have done something very bad in a former life) but once those spaces are full, I'd be pleased to see you all. I think my car is going on the Cayman display area but that's up to the RS, Kevan.
ted walker
New member
I think les Purnell is also coming on Sunday in his Spyder.
Fresh late registered Spyder at an OPC
Price: £ 46,990 With 2 Years of Porsche Approved Warranty Mileage: 13,377 m Exterior Colour: Carrara White [link=http://www.porsche.co.uk/bristol]Porsche Centre Bristol[/link] The Paddock, Cribbs Causeway BS10 7UH Bristol
Vehicle Data
Displacement:3,400 ccPower Output:310 HPDrivetrain:2-WDTransmission:AutomaticFueletrolExterior Colour:Carrara White Vehicle Locationorsche Centre BristolVehicle Ident Number:WP0ZZZ98ZBS740887Interior Finish:Black leatherette interior with sports seats leatherMileage:13,377 mRegistration Year:2011 (61)Price:£ 46,990
[h3]Equipment[/h3]19-inch Boxster Spyder WheelFloor matsFully automatic climate controlHandbrake lever aluminium IIHeated seatsParkAssist (rear)Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation modulePorsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
Recent Major Service Carried Out July 2015Roll-over bar in exterior colourSound Package Plus including CD storageSport Chrono Package PlusSports exhaust systemSports seatsTelephone module for PCMUniversal audio interface
Price: £ 46,990 With 2 Years of Porsche Approved Warranty Mileage: 13,377 m Exterior Colour: Carrara White [link=http://www.porsche.co.uk/bristol]Porsche Centre Bristol[/link] The Paddock, Cribbs Causeway BS10 7UH Bristol
Vehicle Data
Displacement:3,400 ccPower Output:310 HPDrivetrain:2-WDTransmission:AutomaticFuel
etrolExterior Colour:Carrara White Vehicle Locationorsche Centre BristolVehicle Ident Number:WP0ZZZ98ZBS740887Interior Finish:Black leatherette interior with sports seats leatherMileage:13,377 mRegistration Year:2011 (61)Price:£ 46,990[h3]Equipment[/h3]19-inch Boxster Spyder WheelFloor matsFully automatic climate controlHandbrake lever aluminium IIHeated seatsParkAssist (rear)Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation modulePorsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
Recent Major Service Carried Out July 2015Roll-over bar in exterior colourSound Package Plus including CD storageSport Chrono Package PlusSports exhaust systemSports seatsTelephone module for PCMUniversal audio interface
I am surprised, but neither of the previous 2 x 981 Spyder seem to work quite as well as I expected in their PTS, compared to some of the original colours available.
Just an opinion, but I would never have expected that to be the case, maybe they look so much better in the metal?
Just an opinion, but I would never have expected that to be the case, maybe they look so much better in the metal?
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