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Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!

every thing seems to last the same give or take imo on top products. I just go buy what looks best and sealents don't look as good on darker colours over a wax.

Wax on a white/silver/light car imo don't do much for the shine, but still easy to wash all though winter I only used to wax a car twice a year it was fine all though winter.

this is a wax on my black car of old, no sealent can give mirror finish on black like a wax can.

staying power comes down to how you wash the car. Use a ph Neutral wash, or even baby shampoo and your wax will last over winter esp a top wax like my Zymol concours, it's a very sturdy finish with mega depth and clarity.

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Everyone has there favourites and I am often asked for advice on products and order of usage I give this free of charge.

But at the end of day you use what works best for you with ease of use and results.

Untrue all products last the same amount of time.

True a sealant does not give the same finsh as wax but you are hard pressed to notice the difference l

I have most waxes or tried many on the market so I have a fair idea and knowledge of what works for the type of effect or usage required by clients.

It no good putting an expensive wax on a car if its not been preped it won't adhere and won't look its best.

As I always say if your using something and it works for you happy days.

 
Quicker than either 3.8L 981

The 718 S

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So faster than the new Spyder and will have better steering feel, plus a nice PCM unit as standard, no wonder we are not seeing 1 single 2nd hand 981 Spyder sold yet !

981 range was the dog of the 2000's !

Same for the GT4 and people saying a keeper lol, when I said i'll be 1st in the que for the new one, give me that new steering feel and PCM please.

the 981 range, the cars with **** steering it will be remembered by !!! you have got to say stay with a 987.2 car or go 718 now. roll on the new GT4 RS they have to make it faster than a boxster now lol

 
what we need is the steering and the PCM but keep the flat 6 for the gen 2 Spyder and GT4 so they are NA and not detuned ones !

then might be perfect :) as I say roll on the next round of NA Spyders and GT4

981 Spyders gone of the Porsche config also !

Should make the 987.2 Spyders hit £60k though which is good news :) flat 6 engine with real steering simple but enjoyable things also help resale later down the line.

 
MrDemon said:
So faster than the new Spyder and will have better steering feel, plus a nice PCM unit as standard, no wonder we are not seeing 1 single 2nd hand 981 Spyder sold yet !

981 range was the dog of the 2000's !

Same for the GT4 and people saying a keeper lol, when I said i'll be 1st in the que for the new one, give me that new steering feel and PCM please.

the 981 range, the cars with **** steering it will be remembered by !!! you have got to say stay with a 987.2 car or go 718 now. roll on the new GT4 RS they have to make it faster than a boxster now lol

So also heavier than the outgoing model, oh dear.

Not sure exactly what 10% more direct steering will actually do for feel, will be interesting to hear more on that, the latest Spyder does have different steering anyway from the other 981s and also GT4 I think ??

I'm sure the new PCM will be nice, it's not something I use much so neither here nor there for me.

The front look of the 718 doesn't hit the mark for me either from that picture, I think the 981 Spyder is the best looking (and sounding) Boxster to date, better than the 987 Spyder for me, although I also agree the 987 version is a really great car.

I don't think there's any garauntee there'll be a 6 cylinder NA 718 in any form as yet, maybe for GT cars but that wouldn't therefore include the Spyder.

Anyway I'm more than happy with my 981 'dog' even in January, can't think what I'd ever replace it with so I probably won't bother for a good while.

 
daro911 said:
Now for something different [&:]

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I'm torn....actually quite like the red. Mine is still spec amendable.

Pure White, Satin Black wheels, Steel (Red) Calipers. Could work.

 
Is it just me that thinks that rotary control on the new type steering wheel looks cheap and nasty?

It will be interesting to see what the new turbo engines will be like in the Boxster. I had a drive in the Gen 2 991 this week and although the 3.0 turbo engine is quicker than the old 3.8 naturally aspirated unit, I was underwhelmed by it. I would rather have the old 3.8 unit.

 
Terry said:
Is it just me that thinks that rotary control on the new type steering wheel looks cheap and nasty?

It will be interesting to see what the new turbo engines will be like in the Boxster. I had a drive in the Gen 2 991 this week and although the 3.0 turbo engine is quicker than the old 3.8 naturally aspirated unit, I was underwhelmed by it. I would rather have the old 3.8 unit.
Terry it is cheap and nasty very 1973 Japanese look and feel to it maybe they found a job lot from one of the Korean outfits:ROFLMAO:

interesting take on the new 991.2 as someone I know who recently parted with his 997 GTS drove the 991.2 and said it was fast fabulous but not as much fun as his much missed GTS [&:]

The test reports on the turbo flat 4 should make very interesting reading BUT sadly no PSE option offered![:eek:] That's me out

 
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The steering wheel is an abortion IMO

 
MrDemon said:
So faster than the new Spyder and will have better steering feel,

Same for the GT4

roll on the new GT4 RS they have to make it faster than a boxster now

I think you're right about the GT4 in that that type of car is more (but not entirely) about the numbers, and having all the track focused bits etc, if it is shown how it's done by a 718 S that will never do.

But the Spyder is a package, not too hardcore but a good balance of performance and handling for the roadster driver plus unique bodywork, which altogether makes for something quite special regardless of what else is out there. That's why people still hold hold the 987 Spyder in high regard, regardless of what is faster or better. Same will go for the 981 Spyder I think, like the 987, having a strong following who just like the car as a package. Doesn't matter how many seconds off a GT3 it is around the Nurburgring or whether people will post youtube videos of their track day antics keeping up with a GT3 driven by a novice etc. etc. I expect many of the type of people (not sterotyping people) who buy a 981 Spyder will be smitten with it, not looking at how it compares to previous or future on the numbers or steering feel.

Whereas the GT4 as you say, it's buyers will be looking towards a GT4 RS etc, to keep ahead of the game, whether that be numbers or steering feel etc.

 
Sounds like the steering is off the Spyder version :ROFLMAO:

I bet its the class leader once the road reviews appear but give me a 981 Spyder everyday of the week - Had a quick play and an "S" would run me out at circa £62k!

[h1]Porsche 718 Boxster - full details[/h1][link=http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?memberId=203188]Dan Trent[/link] posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2016 in [link=http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars]German cars[/link]The four-cylinder turbocharged Boxster is here - vital info and stats now official

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It's one that we've known about for a while and the day some have been fearing, but details of the turbocharged [link=http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/four-cylinder-boxster-and-cayman-confirmed/33429]Porsche 718 Boxster[/link] have now been confirmed. Boxster and [link=http://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features/driven-porsche-boxster-s/26893]Boxster S[/link] become 718 Boxster and 718 Boxster S, lose two cylinders, gain a turbo and bang another nail into the coffin of the normally-aspirated sports car. At this stage Porsche is only releasing details for the 718 Boxster range; those for the 718 Cayman will surely follow soon, along with confirmation of the new pricing structure that makes the coupe the entry level to the Porsche sports car range and the Boxster the pricier of the two. [link=http://images.pistonheads.com/nimg/33652/718_boxster_020-L.jpg]
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[/link] Bear with us as there's quite a bit of number crunching to follow, condensed below in a comparison table with the outgoing normally-aspirated versions for reference. But the headlines are the change from a 265hp 2.7 to a 300hp 2.0-litre engine in the Boxster and from a 315hp 3.4-litre to 350hp 2.5-litre in the S. Both new engines are boxer fours with a single turbo. On the S this is a variable vane item - key technology previously reserved exclusively for the senior 911 Turbo models, the new [link=http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/new-porsche-911--the-tech/32882]991.II turbo Carreras[/link] using two conventional ones. Porsche isn't going into details but you'd expect it's gone to the trouble to make sure the new motor's range and response sufficiently compensates for the loss of two cylinders, this being a bigger hurdle than faced by the Carrera.Horsepower gains aren't the main story with the new engines though - the huge increase in torque and where it appears in the rev range will be the real difference. The Boxster leaps from 206lb ft to 280lb ft, the S from 265lb ft to 310lb ft, meaning the entry level Boxster has more torque than the [link=http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/porsche-boxster-gts-review/30005]outgoing GTS[/link]. All sounding good so far, right? Prepare your furrowed brow for the next bit...

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[/link]Boxster now either with a 2.0 or 2.5-litre flat-four In the modern style the turbo engines deliver their peak torque from very low revs; 1,950rpm in the Boxster and 1,900rpm in the S, both maintaining this to 4,500rpm. Which, in a twist of fate that'll not be lost on fans of normally-aspirated motors, is exactly the point where the six-cylinder engines were coming on cam and delivering their best.Your opinion on this one key character trait will define any further conversation about the pros or cons of the Boxster/Cayman range going turbo. In the 911 it's made for a more tractable, flexible and exploitable car at the cost of the [link=http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/has-turbocharging-ruined-the-911/33571]high-revving excitement[/link] diehards will say defines the Porsche experience. The difference in the 718 range will be even more marked, given the loss of two cylinders and significant reduction in capacity. More power, torque and performance will always be welcome. But Porsche needs its new engine to have the necessary fizz and zing, as well as do the impressive numbers. We'll have to wait and see on that. Will the normally-aspirated six live on in halo models like the [link=http://www.pistonheads.com/road-tests/porsche/porsche-boxster-spyder-driven/33298]Boxster Spyder[/link] and Cayman GT4? Porsche isn't saying so far but, if not, expect the desirability of these cars to be increased yet further.

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[/link]Boxster S now a £50K car, £3K more than before For the full performance stats see below; so far Porsche has only released 'best case' acceleration figures for cars with PDK transmission and optional Sports Chrono. Like for like with the existing cars the 718 S's 4.2 seconds is half a second quicker than an equivalent Boxster GTS and six tenths faster than a PDK/Sports Chrono equipped S. The standard 718 Boxster is a whole second quicker off the line than an equivalently specced current car too. The difference is less marked in terms of top speed but it's clear the 718s will feel a lot quicker at regular road speeds. This will no doubt be helped by a kerbweight that only climbs by 5kg for the Boxster and 15kg for the Boxster S.Aesthetically more has changed than you might think from your first glance at the pics. Porsche says only the luggage lids, windscreen and soft-top are carried over, with new lights front and rear, bigger intakes on the front and sides and new Porsche script revealed when the rear spoiler emerges from the bodywork.

Chassis-wise steering is 10 per cent 'more direct', there's the option of PASM with a 10mm ride height drop and, for the S, PASM Sport which runs 20mm lower than standard. The optional Sport Chrono package adds an individual mode to the rotary mode switch; if you've got PDK too you get a Sport Response Button in the middle of it for a 20-second novelty 'push to pass' function.

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[/link]Right move? Wrong move? The only move? Inside there's Porsche's new PCM system which, inevitably, can be "extended with optional modules to thoroughly adapt it to personal requirements." Ready that options list... Speaking of money the new 718 Boxster starts at £41,739 - nearly two grand more than the current model - while the S is £50,695, a leap of nearly £3,000. Deliveries start in the spring.So that's the initial number crunching out of the way. But the debate about the merits of the new turbo engines promises to run and run with the proof, as ever, being in the driving. Noise, response, character - these things will matter to many on PH. Will they be as important for the broader customer base, raised on turbos, impressed by the significant spec sheet gains and considering the faster, more frugal 718 Boxster a demonstration of more bang for your buck?

This one will continue for a while...

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Boxster718 BoxsterBoxster S718 Boxster SEngine2.7-litre 6-cyl2.0-litre 4-cyl turbo3.4-litre 6-cyl2.5-litre 4-cyl turboTransmission6-speed manual/7-speed PDK6-speed manual/7-speed PDK6-speed manual/7-speed PDK6-speed manual/7-speed PDKPower (hp)265@6,700rpm300@6,500rpm315@6,700rpm350@6,500rpmTorque (lb ft)206@4,500 - 6,500rpm280@1,950 - 4,500rpm265@4,500 - 5,800rpm310@1,900 - 4,500rpm0-62mph5.8sec/5.7sec PDK (5.5sec Sport Plus)5.1sec/4.7sec PDK (Sport Plus)5.1sec/5.0sec (4.8sec Sport Plus)4.6sec/4.2sec PDK (Sport Plus)Top speed164/162170173/172177Weight (kg)*1,405/1,4351,410/1,4401,415/1,4451,430/1,460Combined MPG33.6/35.838.2/40.931.4/34.434.9/38.7CO2 (g/km)195/183168/158211/190184/167Basic list price£39,553/£41,475£41,739/£43,661£47,858/£49,780£50,695/£53,5
 

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