Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
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Hi Boxster7 - You have to email and make an appointment to visit the Exclusive Department but its almost another world within the world of the Porsche 200 cars a day facility its very small very personal and of course can be very bespoke depending on the size of your wallet 
Anyone noticed the new 718 Boxster is known internally as a 982 and not a 981.2!
At the factory this week they are coming off the production lines and are referred to as the new model Boxster and not as a face-lift
Following is from Autoexpress
[link=http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/boxster/92411/new-porsche-718-boxster-prices-specs-and-full-details-of-flat-four-turbo#]http://www.autoexpress.co...ls-of-flat-four-turbo#[/link]
[h3]Boxster GTS and Boxster Spyder models could top 400bhp[/h3]Engineers tell us to expect even more, however. Powertrain boss Michael Wessels told us the “power and torque advantages of the B4 (technical term for the flat-four turbo) offer much more scope for increased performance”. To that end, we’d expect the forthcoming GTS model to approach 390bhp, and later on a [link=http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/boxster-spyder/93076/porsche-boxster-spyder-review]Spyder[/link] variant to push that figure over that magic 400bhp mark.
At the factory this week they are coming off the production lines and are referred to as the new model Boxster and not as a face-lift
Following is from Autoexpress
[link=http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/boxster/92411/new-porsche-718-boxster-prices-specs-and-full-details-of-flat-four-turbo#]http://www.autoexpress.co...ls-of-flat-four-turbo#[/link]
[h3]Boxster GTS and Boxster Spyder models could top 400bhp[/h3]Engineers tell us to expect even more, however. Powertrain boss Michael Wessels told us the “power and torque advantages of the B4 (technical term for the flat-four turbo) offer much more scope for increased performance”. To that end, we’d expect the forthcoming GTS model to approach 390bhp, and later on a [link=http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/boxster-spyder/93076/porsche-boxster-spyder-review]Spyder[/link] variant to push that figure over that magic 400bhp mark.
[link=http://youtu.be/o2iVVt1kG2w]http://youtu.be/o2iVVt1kG2w[/link]MrDemon said:A spyder turbo 4 pot, you can keep that
[link=http://www.topgear.com/car-news/first-look/riding-new-four-cylinder-turbo-porsche-718-boxster#1]http://www.topgear.com/ca...-porsche-718-boxster#1[/link]
daro911 said:
On the April factory tour last year there were parts marked 992 and 982 on the line
philnotts99
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daro911 said:[link=http://youtu.be/o2iVVt1kG2w]http://youtu.be/o2iVVt1kG2w[/link]MrDemon said:A spyder turbo 4 pot, you can keep that
[link=http://www.topgear.com/car-news/first-look/riding-new-four-cylinder-turbo-porsche-718-boxster#1]http://www.topgear.com/ca...-porsche-718-boxster#1[/link]
Oh dear, the sound!!!
Just had a look round at cars for sale only a couple of 981 Spyders up for sale with delivery mileage or miniscule where as there are over 20 GT4s for sale at 30 /40 k over list.
That tells me the people who ordered the Spyder really wanted one to drive and cherish true enthusiast rather than selling on for financial gains robbing a geniune potential buyer of the GT4 who can't go the extra cost , sad really.
Good on you Boxster Spyder owners.
Very tempting to make a instant profit but just shows Spyder buyers are a geniune enthusiastic bunch.
That tells me the people who ordered the Spyder really wanted one to drive and cherish true enthusiast rather than selling on for financial gains robbing a geniune potential buyer of the GT4 who can't go the extra cost , sad really.
Good on you Boxster Spyder owners.
Very tempting to make a instant profit but just shows Spyder buyers are a geniune enthusiastic bunch.
Cliff good point well argued but just to have a little fun with "some" why not have a GT car with a roof that drops down rather than a GT car with a fixed tin top and very firm street ride [8D]CLIFFWILKINS said:
I admit the GT tin top is the weapon of choice for the track stars among us but for fun in the sun or on that early morning run imo it has to go to the GT car with the drop top - As they say in the classic car world if the top goes down the price goes up
MrDemon
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daro911 said:Cliff good point well argued but just to have a little fun with "some" why not have a GT car with a roof that drops down rather than a GT car with a fixed tin top and very firm street ride [8D]CLIFFWILKINS said:
I admit the GT tin top is the weapon of choice for the track stars among us but for fun in the sun or on that early morning run imo it has to go to the GT car with the drop top - As they say in the classic car world if the top goes down the price goes up
nice in theory but the GT4 is a plusher ride than the 981 Spdyer even though harder. its the trick GT dampers you see ;-)
nothing GT about the 981 imo, everthing thing which is GT on the GT4 just made it shaper in every area, steering, brakes, ride, corner speed , Cups etc, make the GT4 a bit of a weapon and a shaper feel in all area's.
The 981 Spyder had NO GT bits, the engine is even lazier with lower peek rpm BHp and most bits robbed from the GTS or turbo.
A lot of Spyders are changing hands, goto any OPC and you see them , goto JZM and you seem them, they are just not up on forums and PH adds, JZM said they have no need to put it up on PH.
great cars if you want a GTS Spyder with a 3.8 but not a GT car
Well I have hardly seen many 981 Spyders advertised maybe a couple at a time unlike over 20 Gt4s advertised.
Maybe if this is true Spyders don't need to be advertised.
If it's 3.8 is lazy probably most might not find it to be so. Best bring on the high revving Turbo because that's the only option for the future especially if it has 400 bhp
But I am sure everyone who owns any Boxster model loves and enjoys driving it.
Maybe if this is true Spyders don't need to be advertised.
If it's 3.8 is lazy probably most might not find it to be so. Best bring on the high revving Turbo because that's the only option for the future especially if it has 400 bhp
But I am sure everyone who owns any Boxster model loves and enjoys driving it.
MrDemon said:daro911 said:Cliff good point well argued but just to have a little fun with "some" why not have a GT car with a roof that drops down rather than a GT car with a fixed tin top and very firm street ride [8D]CLIFFWILKINS said:
I admit the GT tin top is the weapon of choice for the track stars among us but for fun in the sun or on that early morning run imo it has to go to the GT car with the drop top - As they say in the classic car world if the top goes down the price goes up
nice in theory but the GT4 is a plusher ride than the 981 Spdyer even though harder. its the trick GT dampers you see ;-)
nothing GT about the 981 imo, everthing thing which is GT on the GT4 just made it shaper in every area, steering, brakes, ride, corner speed , Cups etc, make the GT4 a bit of a weapon and a shaper feel in all area's.
The 981 Spyder had NO GT bits, the engine is even lazier with lower peek rpm BHp and most bits robbed from the GTS or turbo.
A lot of Spyders are changing hands, goto any OPC and you see them , goto JZM and you seem them, they are just not up on forums and PH adds, JZM said they have no need to put it up on PH.
great cars if you want a GTS Spyder with a 3.8 but not a GT car
Well, I actually have a GT4 and a 981 Spyder, and although both have only done a few hundred fairly easy road miles, I just can't agree with some of your statements.
1. On the ride, you may actually be right but I haven't noticed any real difference myself as yet, the new Spyder ride is much nicer than the old one but still nice and stiff.
2. The 'lazier' feeling engine at the moment to me is the GT4 one. the Spyder feels anything but lazy and just goes like a scalded cat even from low revs, the GT4 feels like the engine is much tighter and therefore not as sharp. Now this may and I hope does change with miles, but for the moment the Spyder feels superior in the engine dept. The noise from inside the Spyder even with roof up is also much better than the GT4, and from outside it just seems to have a louder and sharper bark for some reason.
3. Handling, well haven't really pushed either that hard but the Spyder does feel 'livelier' at the back especially, I expected this anyway with narrower tyres and esp in colder weather. The Spyder steering is lighter but I think faster than the GT4, it does have less feel, but the car itself feels very agile and pointy and certainly not inferior to the GT4.
There's no doubt both are great cars, and I won't get a proper comparison until they're run in properly and I push them much harder in the better weather, but as I say for now the Spyder definitely has the edge, the GT4 feels refined in comparison.
It almost feels to me like my 'new' Spyder has already done a few months time at the PEC Silverstone and is all fully run in now !!
I would think at the moment if I gave someone with no knowledge of these cars a drive, and asked to guess which one is the GT car, the answer might well not be the GT4 !!
Inserting summary above, nice to know you own both cars and can make a direct comparison. I look forward to seeing a further review when you have done more miles. In the meantime enjoy both.
I guess some others who dont own both could be making assumptions.[&:]
I guess some others who dont own both could be making assumptions.[&:]
Sandy59 great report and so nice to hear from someone who has at least experienced both 3.8L GTS's as the Demon likes to say on a regular basis
Does anyone know why the 3.8L 981's had the stop start function removed! I was surprised when I discovered this feature wasn't there but would be intrigued to know why and hopefully the answer isn't as stupid as the reason for no rear parking sensors []
Does anyone know why the 3.8L 981's had the stop start function removed! I was surprised when I discovered this feature wasn't there but would be intrigued to know why and hopefully the answer isn't as stupid as the reason for no rear parking sensors [
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Was at a local Sunday morning car meet today all Marques present .A Race Yellow Spyder and a Race Yellow GT4 where in attendance .The owner of the Spyder let me sit in it and was surprised how nice and comfy the LWB seats are and the bonus which I never knew they are powered for height which suits some one like me with short legs but no heaters which I knew about .They attracted a lot of attention and the Spyder hood was demonstrated a lot easier when you get the hang of the button realise on the rear flaps .Just 2 days to go before the 987 comes out a lot of salt still lying around cars today covered in a white dust []
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CLIFFWILKINS said:
I do wonder if the answer is more financial, hopefully not, but it appears that most GT4's are for sale between £100k and £110k
while they list between £70k and £80K which is 40% plus up (£30 to £40K) a very worthwhile bonus and well worth considering cashing in.
The Spyder however seems to be for sale between £80k and £90K and they seem to list between high £60's to high £70's I looked at one on Saturday that listed at £78K with an £11k uplift and that was a top price which is only 15%.
I do wonder if for a modest profit the owner would sooner keep the car as the incentive is not high enough.
Just a thought to throw into the pot.
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