Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
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GT4 are selling though Daro, 5 this week at OPC alone and 17 OPC sales in the last month ! , plus there were 3x the numbers, seems a nice steady flow of sales and new ones pop up. A nice turn over for the GT4 market.
Top555 have sold about 20 of the things and JZM also move a load.
Spyders are not selling at all, just more and more coming up for sale. read that as zero sales !
that model is NOT alone the BGTS is not selling either at £60k, again zero sales for months.
what is selling are £45k Boxster S and seem the value car of choice even in winter.
% there are the same Spyders and GT4's for sale at OPC vs sold cars atm
lets not get into a GT4 vs Spyder debate it's daft and very PH, my question is what price do Spyders need to be to see some selling ?
Jeff dropped his to £76k but did not get a sale !
maxed page also dropped the GT silver one and again no sales, both ended up at other traders at more money !
I only ask as I might buy one to complete the 4 set but not at these prices, then I thought about a BGTS for a winter hack, but again seem over priced.
been following both models for 6 moths like a hawk. GTS was a rare car now 10 OPC cars !!!
I guess from a newish £45k full spec 981 Boxster S the other 2 cars look like poor value atm plus £45k is easier to find in your pocket than £60/£80k
Top555 have sold about 20 of the things and JZM also move a load.
Spyders are not selling at all, just more and more coming up for sale. read that as zero sales !
that model is NOT alone the BGTS is not selling either at £60k, again zero sales for months.
what is selling are £45k Boxster S and seem the value car of choice even in winter.
% there are the same Spyders and GT4's for sale at OPC vs sold cars atm
lets not get into a GT4 vs Spyder debate it's daft and very PH, my question is what price do Spyders need to be to see some selling ?
Jeff dropped his to £76k but did not get a sale !
maxed page also dropped the GT silver one and again no sales, both ended up at other traders at more money !
I only ask as I might buy one to complete the 4 set but not at these prices, then I thought about a BGTS for a winter hack, but again seem over priced.
been following both models for 6 moths like a hawk. GTS was a rare car now 10 OPC cars !!!
I guess from a newish £45k full spec 981 Boxster S the other 2 cars look like poor value atm plus £45k is easier to find in your pocket than £60/£80k
I did answer your question before but to save you scrolling back IMO as the cars are no longer made, unknown if future Spyders will be N/A ever again, circa 200 cars in UK today I stick to my original valuation ie circa invoice price at time of purchase if mint and low miles of courseMrDemon said:
Question back to you sir - did 5 cars actually sell or were they SOR and returned to owners
Do OPC actually own any or all of those 22 GT4's and 7 Spyders
Finally if Jeff would share the information with you he knows the exact price needed to sell a Spyder today having just successfully completed the procedure
Look forward to you announcing a 981 Spyder has finally joined your fleet[
]"Seasons Greetings"
spyderman77
New member
Hi all Spyder people. I have just put my Spyder 987 away for the winter months and just wondered if you can offer some advice ? I have a battery conditioner so that should keep the battery good but just wondered is it best to start it now and then and run it fully up to temp or is it best to leave it until I am ready to drive in again in March.Just wondered what you all recommend? Much appreciated. Andy.
My Spyder has ben SORN'd since the end of October and is now under its cover and connected to its battery conditioner. I plan to put it back on the road in March. I started it at the beginning of December and let it run for half an hour or so until it got up to normal operating temperature and plan to do the same each month until it's back on the road. Starting it isn't based on any recommendation but it seemed a sensible thing to do; whether it does more harm than good I'm not sure but I can't see why it should be detrimental. I also move it slightly each month so that it's not sitting on the same part of the tyres.
My cars are also stored for the winter all on conditioners and covered and an extra 20lb in the tyres to save flat spotting ,but do try to jack the car up and rotate the wheels .Read on PH that starting the car for short periods is not advised but to give them a good run and bring up to temp ,no use of course if they are sorned as most will be .
spyderman77
New member
Thanks for the good advise. I have also put extra pressure in the tyres but was concerned about the motor ( to start or not to start?).Really like the colour combination of your 981 Spyder Ian,very nice.
Andy.
Andy.
My 'tuppence worth:
Starting and idling the engine for a period of time (without load) doesn't "help" it in any way, and I think is discouraged in the owner's manual? The most damaging time for an engine is cold startup, so you're just putting it through that experience more frequently for no gain. Also, idling the engine without driving does nothing to lubricate the transmission or suspension. The better option is to look out for a decent weather window and give it a run up and down the road for 20 minutes or so until everything is nicely warmed through, and condensation has been blown out of the system.
I tend to leave mine alone (on charge), unless I can take it out for a run - subject to salty roads etc.
I do dislike this time of year, hoping and waiting for a decent chance to give the Spyder a warm through! It's almost as bad as March time, when it feels like I should be able to use the car, but there's a constant stream of showery evenings and weekends and / or the roads haven't been washed clean of salty grit! I wish I had an interesting car in the garage that I didn't care so much about keeping in good condition so I could just drive it throughout winter and still be able to sleep at night [8|]
Starting and idling the engine for a period of time (without load) doesn't "help" it in any way, and I think is discouraged in the owner's manual? The most damaging time for an engine is cold startup, so you're just putting it through that experience more frequently for no gain. Also, idling the engine without driving does nothing to lubricate the transmission or suspension. The better option is to look out for a decent weather window and give it a run up and down the road for 20 minutes or so until everything is nicely warmed through, and condensation has been blown out of the system.
I tend to leave mine alone (on charge), unless I can take it out for a run - subject to salty roads etc.
I do dislike this time of year, hoping and waiting for a decent chance to give the Spyder a warm through! It's almost as bad as March time, when it feels like I should be able to use the car, but there's a constant stream of showery evenings and weekends and / or the roads haven't been washed clean of salty grit! I wish I had an interesting car in the garage that I didn't care so much about keeping in good condition so I could just drive it throughout winter and still be able to sleep at night [8|]
Agree a run out to heat up the engine and take it up to temp is the best ...the problem with this is you have to tax the car on DD and that is anything from £23-£45 a month for just say one days use hardly seems worth it .Most will have the cars on sorn so a run is out of the question
spyderwhite
Member
I have often left my cars for 2-3 months with no problems outside covered and in the garage although the garage is best! I tend give my car a good wash then take for a good drive to dry the brakes then store in gear and handbrake off and nothing else no battery conditioner and no problems! I also cover the car up even in the garage.When I awaken the car after its slumber I take it for a long drive with the usual engine sympathies on warm up to full operating temperature and plus for a few extra miles at lowish revs ie below 3k then give it a good blast to clear the pipes!
starting the car every so often or even once without driving is not going to be of any benefit over such a relative short period of time and may be more harmful as pointed out!
starting the car every so often or even once without driving is not going to be of any benefit over such a relative short period of time and may be more harmful as pointed out!
spyderman77
New member
Great advice . I will not start it until I use it again in Spring.I'll leave it on the battery conditioner and tyres at 50psi fingers crossed all will be well when I get her on the road again. Service is due April so new oil and filter will be all ready for a full 7-8 months driving again. Can't wait, always a buzz when you have'nt driven it over the Winter months. 
Rocket Man
New member
MrDemon said:Not only the best boxster, prob the best open top sports car ever
I discount ,caterham, atoms etc those are for nutters
And the Elise is a great car, but it's not a Spyder.
Altbough if I were very wealthy I would have a BAC Mono also.
OMG David, i am no nutter Atom owner so i must be younger.
on another note, i have just replaced my daily with a delivery milage Z4 2L, its no Porsche but at a list of just under 38K i paid 24600, it has to be the bargain of the year and what a useful crakin car
Rocket Man said:MrDemon said:Not only the best boxster, prob the best open top sports car ever
I discount ,caterham, atoms etc those are for nutters
And the Elise is a great car, but it's not a Spyder.
Altbough if I were very wealthy I would have a BAC Mono also.
OMG David, i am no nutter Atom owner so i must be younger.
on another note, i have just replaced my daily with a delivery milage Z4 2L, its no Porsche but at a list of just under 38K i paid 24600, it has to be the bargain of the year and what a useful crakin car
having been a nutter myself
super bikes owner for 5 or so years, I cannot ever see me going hardcore car again, because it's not a bike, but has just about 80% of the bike hassles lol An Atom is a great garage car though for a blast I am sure. But the closest I would go back to that level is an Exige. and there seem no point owning the Spyder which I love and an Exige. Hence the long Spyder ownship.
Why does anyone not use the car over winter ? These are modern cars with no corrosion issues and only requiring a little less right foot to stay safe.kitchens said:
Some of the most memorable drives we have had in our Spyders is roof off, heater on full, blasts to some far away tea house, on cold, clear blue sky days in Dec/Jan/Feb - joyous..and that's with buckets not even the heated chairs...You're really missing an experience here..
Andrew Killington
New member
roads are filthy here at moment; muddy, slippery generally unpleasantC2MTH said:
there are many not so good looking Spyders about, go look at some, even owners cars here some look tired over garage queens and dry use only cars.
a winter kills the cars in the UK due to salt and grit.
been to see a few with mates who wanted to buy, even OPC cars for sale, mould on soft tops, rusty exhaust, rusty bolts etc. and metal work looking rough behind wheels, green on side window rubbers, Road rash paint work...salt and grit chipped wheels esp black ones etc etc.
A UK winter can turn a car quite fast from a minter to a well used looking one, depends what you want from the car I guess.
As the cars are coming to 7 years old 7 winters later some look poor imo.
I won't even run my R though winter this year, the car was so mint when I got it, seems a shame to run it though a winter esp as I paid over the normal price for a minter in the 1st place, you can turn a £48k car into a £35k car !
the last 3 winter cars I ran have looked shocking just after the 3 worst months !!! let alone 7 winters ! just no point running a nice car in Dec,Jan,Feb imo.
I have not ran my GT4 since Sept but it looks brand new still and will do when I get it out next April.
nothing sweeter than opening your garage and getting a car out which looks new.
my Spyder's not that mint, as I use it well when I do use it, but the roof looks brand new and stone chips are kept down quite well and metal work has not gone off in the main places they go first.
good excuse for a Spyder pic, merry Christmas
a winter kills the cars in the UK due to salt and grit.
been to see a few with mates who wanted to buy, even OPC cars for sale, mould on soft tops, rusty exhaust, rusty bolts etc. and metal work looking rough behind wheels, green on side window rubbers, Road rash paint work...salt and grit chipped wheels esp black ones etc etc.
A UK winter can turn a car quite fast from a minter to a well used looking one, depends what you want from the car I guess.
As the cars are coming to 7 years old 7 winters later some look poor imo.
I won't even run my R though winter this year, the car was so mint when I got it, seems a shame to run it though a winter esp as I paid over the normal price for a minter in the 1st place, you can turn a £48k car into a £35k car !
the last 3 winter cars I ran have looked shocking just after the 3 worst months !!! let alone 7 winters ! just no point running a nice car in Dec,Jan,Feb imo.
I have not ran my GT4 since Sept but it looks brand new still and will do when I get it out next April.
nothing sweeter than opening your garage and getting a car out which looks new.
my Spyder's not that mint, as I use it well when I do use it, but the roof looks brand new and stone chips are kept down quite well and metal work has not gone off in the main places they go first.
good excuse for a Spyder pic, merry Christmas
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