Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
- Thread starter daro911
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911 V have a resale racing red Spyder for sale if anyone is looking to buy I know the car personally [8D]
Boxster Spyder 981. 6 speed manual transmission. A 1 owner car (original bill of sale) first registered 30/11/2015 65-registration and supplied by Porsche Centre Mayfair. A very rare Porsche, fewer than 200 Spyders are believed to have been sold in the UK, finished in arguably one of the better colour schemes (Guards Red / Black leather) with a considered and desirable level of optional equipment.
Presented in Immaculate / showroom condition throughout with unmarked wheels, bodywork and interior.
Unmarked 20" alloys factory finished in Satin Platinum. Standard Spyder spec includes Porsche Torque Vectoring, mechanical limited slip differential, Sports Chrono, Switchable sports exhaust system, tyre pressure monitoring and carbon backed leightweight / folding bucket seats.
This particular car, in addition to the standard spec, has full black leather/ Alcantara with optioned contrasting red stitching, heated seats, cruise control, BOSE surround sound, Dual Zone Climate Controlled air conditioning, Bluetooth telephone module, reversing camera, Light design package, Bi-Xenon headlights with Porsche Dynamic lighting system, Carbon Interior Package, automatically dimming mirrors, Centre Console trim in Carbon, Leather steering column surround, crested wheel centres, net type wind deflector, 64 litre fuel tank and passenger footwell storage net.
Simply stunning ! Supplied with x2 keys, leather service wallet, manuals, service book and original bill of sale. A 'stand out' 981 Spyder in the current market.
6,700 recorded miles.
Boxster Spyder 981. 6 speed manual transmission. A 1 owner car (original bill of sale) first registered 30/11/2015 65-registration and supplied by Porsche Centre Mayfair. A very rare Porsche, fewer than 200 Spyders are believed to have been sold in the UK, finished in arguably one of the better colour schemes (Guards Red / Black leather) with a considered and desirable level of optional equipment.
Presented in Immaculate / showroom condition throughout with unmarked wheels, bodywork and interior.
Unmarked 20" alloys factory finished in Satin Platinum. Standard Spyder spec includes Porsche Torque Vectoring, mechanical limited slip differential, Sports Chrono, Switchable sports exhaust system, tyre pressure monitoring and carbon backed leightweight / folding bucket seats.
This particular car, in addition to the standard spec, has full black leather/ Alcantara with optioned contrasting red stitching, heated seats, cruise control, BOSE surround sound, Dual Zone Climate Controlled air conditioning, Bluetooth telephone module, reversing camera, Light design package, Bi-Xenon headlights with Porsche Dynamic lighting system, Carbon Interior Package, automatically dimming mirrors, Centre Console trim in Carbon, Leather steering column surround, crested wheel centres, net type wind deflector, 64 litre fuel tank and passenger footwell storage net.
Simply stunning ! Supplied with x2 keys, leather service wallet, manuals, service book and original bill of sale. A 'stand out' 981 Spyder in the current market.
6,700 recorded miles.
Andrew Killington
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Why would you expect a big drop? Don't see your logic there
Andrew Killington
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Ok; hunt over
legin said:
in what way, please add some pointers why ? the cars are at overs more than GT4 now due to summer and we all love summer motoring and are quick to forget winter and dark nights.
the cars were £66k list In a nice spec, they went to £79k and had to drop to sell, now its summer dealers have upped prices but the same cars are all for sale which were £79k 3/4 months back lol !
when I say big drop I mean if you are buying at £85/90k cars in the summer come PCP end time and what the trade will give you, you could loose £20k, I would not pay more than £75k for one myself knowing dealers will offer less than that to buy one.
If you are happy that you might loose 10k and want the car it's a non issue, but it seems people want to make on them not loose on them lol.
I see one being able to pick a car up for £75k no issue come winter, the org owner makes money still as SOR is just hassle and no money in the sellers pockets. GO ask for a buy out price from a dealer come Oct
Then add in the 718 Spyder and you can see why a drop might happen esp if the 718 Spyder will have a flat 6 and 4.0l engine !
The next GT4 will be a better car, I would say the next 718 Spyder might well be a better car.
the 987.2 SPyder market is what it is now ,a more involving car to dirve, (last of the hydrolic cars) by a county mile so no new cars effect prices, if any thing the 981 Spyder made the 987.2 cars go up.
We have even had 3 or maybe 4 owners here now selling 981 spyders and buying 987.2 Spyder or other stuff, it's not that special a car imo.
I only had to look a FOS this year to see the future of driving has ended, drivers cars have all but gone, if you want a drivers car today you have got to buy an older design or a Lotus.
At the end of the day the GT4 and Spyders are not 911's so I expect them all to drop, only the 911 has the future big resale, and once PCP hits **** street which it will the new car market is done for as no one can afford to buy outright ! The car markets flooded atm it's very hard to sell high value 2nd hand stock, people get get into new cars on PCP cheaper in the short term but are screwed come balloon pay off time.
In fact as I have written this ALEXANDERS PRESTIGE have dropped theirs back to £79k (another ex members car)
I don't agree with everything Mr Demon says but the PCP "overhang" is a bit of a worry. When I bought my last Porsche I had to go through the inevitable hard sell from the Porsche Finance guy. I made it clear I wanted to pay cash but he wouldn't give up! I asked him what proportion of Porsche main agent customers took finance and was shocked at the answer - 80%! That's probably skewed by Macan buyers but still it makes you think what might happen in 2 years time.
It's pure conjecture on my part but I was basing it on the likelihood that your average Macan is bought as a daily driver versus a Spyder which is probably a second car. Could be that there's no difference in the use of finance in which case it will be interesting to see what happens when 4 out of every 5 Spyders come off lease in a short space of time.
Andrew Killington
New member
And it wouldn't affect dealers prices anyway
So long as dealers are able to continue to offer finance at a reasonable rate and there is no asset price crash, it isn't going to end just yet.
Even the forthcoming interest rate rise isn't going to add much cost to ownership with rates so low anyway.
Plus with the Spyder there are only up to 200 981s we know of.
It's a great car and if it doesn't sell I will be very happy to have it back
I'd be happy if prices of cars crashed as then I can buy a Speciale Aperta
Even the forthcoming interest rate rise isn't going to add much cost to ownership with rates so low anyway.
Plus with the Spyder there are only up to 200 981s we know of.
It's a great car and if it doesn't sell I will be very happy to have it back
I'd be happy if prices of cars crashed as then I can buy a Speciale Aperta
legin
New member
MrDemon said:legin said:
in what way, please add some pointers why ? the cars are at overs more than GT4 now due to summer and we all love summer motoring and are quick to forget winter and dark nights.
the cars were £66k list In a nice spec, they went to £79k and had to drop to sell, now its summer dealers have upped prices but the same cars are all for sale which were £79k 3/4 months back lol !
when I say big drop I mean if you are buying at £85/90k cars in the summer come PCP end time and what the trade will give you, you could loose £20k, I would not pay more than £75k for one myself knowing dealers will offer less than that to buy one.
If you are happy that you might loose 10k and want the car it's a non issue, but it seems people want to make on them not loose on them lol.
I see one being able to pick a car up for £75k no issue come winter, the org owner makes money still as SOR is just hassle and no money in the sellers pockets. GO ask for a buy out price from a dealer come Oct
Then add in the 718 Spyder and you can see why a drop might happen esp if the 718 Spyder will have a flat 6 and 4.0l engine !
The next GT4 will be a better car, I would say the next 718 Spyder might well be a better car.
the 987.2 SPyder market is what it is now ,a more involving car to dirve, (last of the hydrolic cars) by a county mile so no new cars effect prices, if any thing the 981 Spyder made the 987.2 cars go up.
We have even had 3 or maybe 4 owners here now selling 981 spyders and buying 987.2 Spyder or other stuff, it's not that special a car imo.
I only had to look a FOS this year to see the future of driving has ended, drivers cars have all but gone, if you want a drivers car today you have got to buy an older design or a Lotus.
At the end of the day the GT4 and Spyders are not 911's so I expect them all to drop, only the 911 has the future big resale, and once PCP hits **** street which it will the new car market is done for as no one can afford to buy outright ! The car markets flooded atm it's very hard to sell high value 2nd hand stock, people get get into new cars on PCP cheaper in the short term but are screwed come balloon pay off time.
In fact as I have written this ALEXANDERS PRESTIGE have dropped theirs back to £79k (another ex members car)
Not sure I have the inclination to respond to all your points but i will go for a few.
Re selling price of 981 spyder last summer were 78 up to mid 80,s so your numbers are wrong. The opc network have dramatically fewer spyders for sale than GT4,s even allowing for the lower registered number and they do sell. The comment they stuck at 74k last winter and didnt sell isnt what I observed unless a/c delete or the like .
I agree that the overs gap to GT4 has reduced and believe this will stay this way as many folk myself included prefer the spyder even if it was the same price. Somehow the GT4 badge meant the Spyder was overlooked to a degree but that is changing as the word gets out that its a better toy for the road and reflected in the closing gap also in part seasonal agreed.
I agree that the PCP bubble is going to come crashing down but I dont agree the Spyder will suffer any more than the GT cars will whether financed or not. The reason is simple there are not enough around for over supply and the car is therefore no more a risky buy than a GT car is and probably less as Porsche under priced it new.
Like many I flit between the 911 GTS and the Spyder but a 2016 GTS doesnt make the overs a Spyder does in relation to purchase price. As the GTS spec becomes more common place across the board I think later cars are more at risk of oversupply and the PCP bubble.
Ironically the GT4 seems to get the "its not GT enough" (engine etc) more than the spyder I think because the spyder isnt claiming to be a GT and most buyers myself included are quite happy with the open roof, looks, better sound and exclusivity.
I know you think 981 drivers will see the light and get a 987 version but the reality is some will some wont rather like the lotus s1 vs s2 argument and have had all those as well. I wont as the 981 with chairs and a/c is where im at these days.
TheAnimal
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Finance is completely irrelevant in this discussion. I was going to buy my Spyder with cash last year but chose finance because the OPC gave me 0%. You read that correct - ZERO percent. Before anyone says "that's not normal", it certainly is Ollie - that's why we're in a massive credit bubble.
I also bought my 991 GT3 RS with cash when it arrived the following month.
Don't assume that all sports car buyers take finance - some of us don't want to or don't need to.
I also bought my 991 GT3 RS with cash when it arrived the following month.
Don't assume that all sports car buyers take finance - some of us don't want to or don't need to.
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